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Rowand Signs With Giants

 Update: Rowand’s deal is for 5 years and 60 million dollars, contrary to early reports of 5 years and 90 million.

The San Francisco Giants have done what the Phillies could not or would not do: sign Aaron Rowand to a 90 million dollar contract.

Maybe Pat Gillick’s face should get on the side of a milk carton and the Philadelphia Police Missing Persons department alerted because Pat Gillick is missing, absolutely non-existent, during this off-season.

While the Braves and Marlins have downgraded talent by shipping its stars out of the division, wouldn’t you want to add players who can help the club, Mr. Gillick, not detract from it? By no means do I believe that Aaron Rowand is worth 90 million dollars. After Torii Hunter and Andruw Jones were off the market, in my mind Gillick had no choice but to re-sign the only centerfield option left available.

Your starting outfield in 2008 is Pat Burrell, Shane Victorino and Jayson Werth.

My confidence in an NL East title defense just dropped about 30 percent.

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  1. Chris.I

    December 12, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    Thats some Bullsh*t

  2. Anthony Bronico

    December 12, 2007 at 6:07 pm

    Pat Gillick should not be the general manager of this team. Theres a good chance that this is his last year according to Gillick, since his contract runs out. So what incentive does he have to make this team any better now or in the future.

    As each day goes by the Phillies are getting worse. I can understand not paying Rowand because that price is ridiculous. But Jayson Werth as our Opening Day right fielder?? What did he do the first half of last year? Nothing. He got a little hot towards the end of the summer and tailed off when it started to count.

    They should of tried harder for Iguchi. Wes Helms stinks and I hope the Marlins take this bum off our hands. I’d rather have Iguchi from May 15 to the end of the year than anything the Phils will put out there right now for the whole year. They better make some kind of offer to Pedro Feliz just to show they are trying.

    And Kris Benson is the only race they will win in the free agent market? He’s the Adam Eaton of 2008. Might as well bring back Lieber and Garcia. One Eaton is enough.

    Sorry if Im just ramblin on about things, but they get me mad. They got a Billionaire Partner they wont let buy the team and put us in the same category of the Yanks and Sox. Like Howard Eskin says, their only concern is making money. Not winning baseball.

  3. Chris M

    December 12, 2007 at 7:48 pm

    Well first of all the contract is reported by to be worth 60 million dollars. He’s overated obvisously, he’ll never see those numbers agian espeically in SF. But who else could you get now a days for 12 milion a year? Did we have a chance to match the offer like we were sopposed to, if so I think we should of matched that. Now for my rant on Gillick. He traded for Lidge, who is a free agent after this year and will be gone, he gave two top prospects plus Costanzo, a 3rd base prospect. Haven’t we been looking for a third baseman for a while. How about Gio Gonzalez? Amazing prosepect we traded away for Garcia. And now wheres Garcia? Gone! He stinks, step up Amaro and take the reigns. Plus Gillick hasn’t brought in any big free agents! Oh, wait, Eaton!!!!!!!!

  4. Ed

    December 13, 2007 at 12:50 am

    Although we still have “Pat the Bat” and a “maybe” in right field, we now have the best centerfielder in the National League. That’s right … Shane Victorino will win the golden glove and bat .300 with mucho stolen bases. I’ll throw in 15 plus homers as well. He should lead off with Rollins second, but I forgot about Charlie! The loss of Rowand is a net gain with two draft picks and money saved. It’s third base and pitching that’s the problem – stupid.

  5. VA Steve

    December 13, 2007 at 7:07 am

    Phils will regret letting him go.

  6. Chris.I

    December 13, 2007 at 8:35 am

    I think Morgan Ensberg, and Mark Prior are both good posibilties for the Phillies next season. Although Prior has been hurt the last few seasons, I don’t think that would hurt his chances. I think he still has a good shot coming off his surgery last year.

  7. Frank

    December 13, 2007 at 9:35 am

    1. The surest road to ruin in pro-sports is handing bloated contracts to thirty-something players- particularly one who got his money off a singular year in a hitter’s park. Read your Bill James and Moneyball people.

    2. $60M bills Rowand as a “can’t miss” middle-of-the-order hitter- pretty big talk about a 30 year old player with 90 career home runs. Think he’ll have 150 when he retires? I don’t. You wanna pay David Wright money to find out?

    Between now and 2012, Victorino will have played 150 more games, hit twenty fewer home runs, a slight downgrade on defense (maybe- Rowand’s will be old and dinged by 2012), and have more hits and runs scored- at a third of the cost. That is a lot to pay for fifteen extra dingers.

  8. Dan C.

    December 13, 2007 at 9:49 am

    I like Rowand a lot, his attitude will be sorely missed. However, I can’t slam the Phillies for not paying $12M a year for 5 years for him. They got themselves in trouble in the 90s by overpaying older players that hurt their record the rest of the decade. In 2006, I think a lot of us also questioned if Rowand was expendable after seeing Shane Victorino play the position to near perfection. Let’s also remember that while he had a great 2007, he was average in 2006, after years of watching Derrick Coleman do the same thing in ‘contract years,’ I’m weary of others in the same situation.

    Best of luck to him, and when San Fran comes to Phila for their first series of 2008, Rowand deserves an ovation.

  9. Dan C.

    December 13, 2007 at 9:54 am

    Chris M.,

    I’m glad you brought up Gio Gonzalez. While everyone was thrilled when we picked up Freddie Garcia, I was concerned about trading away Gio, who I thought was the steal in the Thome trade. He’s going ot have a decent future in the big leagues.

    I still want an everyday 3rd baseman, not a platooned position. Wes Helms is not the answer, folks! And, since the Phillies (and Astros) traded him away, Mike Costanzo wasn’t the answer, either. I like Dobbs, but he’s way too valuable to us as a utility guy, and I think we’re going to need him in the OF in 2008.

  10. Matt Kwasiborski

    December 13, 2007 at 2:02 pm

    Losing a guy like Rowand will hurt this club next year. He is the definition of a true Philly guy with his all out play and productive bat. He provides leadership that is considered a bonus by GMs and not something that seems to be valued when it comes to dollars. He is like Trotter, except that Rowand can still play at an All-star level.

    The Phillies are pretty high on Victorino and minor leaguer Greg Golson. Golson came around last season and he probably will be in the majors next year as the next Bourn. But this team is designed to win now and should have signed Rowand at 3 or 4 years but at a slightly higher yearly average. He will be missed big time considered he knows what it takes on and off the field to win a championship.

    There is a part of me that does question Rowand as well. I understand that it would be hard to turn down 60M for the next 5 years but SF is going nowhere in the coming years when Rowand is in his prime. It will take the Giants a good three years to be competitive again, especially given the talent in that division.

    So why not sign with a team that has a shot to win, loves the fans and his teammates, and become a true city icon for the rest of his life. If he is worried about life after baseball, he just needs to look at Ruynan to see what a retired Philly athlete beloved by the community can earn in endorsements, radio shows, etc.

  11. David Wright

    December 17, 2007 at 11:16 am

    I hope we go for Mike Cameron. Really, he’s about the same player as Rowand, its just that he’s been playing in Petco for the last two years instead of our little bandbox. His Marcells value for next year looks like this: .275 / .338 / .471 with 21 HR. More reflective, his WSP for the last three years has been at about .600, which it the same as Rowand. On the other hand, Geoff Jenkins is a poor man’s Pat Burrell. Same player, but minus 60 BBs a year. And really, as fast as the Flyin’ Hawaiian is, do we really need to clunkers in left and right field? If Jenkins comes cheap, I wouldn’t mind platooning him L/R with Jayson Werth, but on his own, I don’t think he’s a good match. He made more than $7 million last year to be a sub-major league average outfielder. Cameron on the other hand has been subtlely a well-rounded above average player for years now, as long as you can take his strikeouts. If you want to see the stats I’m working from they’re on

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