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Thinking About The Marlins Deal

As you may have saw, on Tuesday the Marlins and the Tigers completed a trade that sent Florida’s two star players, Dontrelle Willis and Miguel Cabrera, out of the National League East.  This move has sent my brain on a roller-coaster ride of analysis and I’m still not sure how this trade will ultimately affect the Phillies.  My initial thought was, “this is a great for the Phils, now we won’t have to worry about the Marlins.”  With Willis and Cabrera out of the picture, the Marlins have created serious deficiencies on their roster; not to mention the fact that Willis has six career wins against the Phillies.

My second though, however, came as I realized that the Willis also have six career wins against the Mets and five against the Braves.  In a way, we need D-train and Miggy in the division to help keep the other teams at bay.  The Marlins have not been in serious contention the past two years (partly due to Willis’ decline towards the end of last season), yet they have still managed to play the spoiler when needed.  We need only look as far as the last game of the 2007 season and their crushing defeat of the Mets.  So I’m still conflicted as to whether this is a positive move for the Phillies or not.  My final though on the subject though was, “the Tigers are going to be really good.”

Fitting into similar parameters as the debate above, we can discuss the most recent blockbuster to come out of the Winter Meetings – Andruw Jones signing with the Dodgers.  Jones ended up inking a 2-year deal worth just over $36 million; which likely meant the Phillies were priced out of the negotiations.  The Dodgers move now means they are out of the running for Aaron Rowand.  It is looking like that race will come down between the Phillies and the White Sox.  If the Phillies want to keep Rowand, they will have to offer him more than the 3-year deal they currently have on the table.   With so many quality players already leaving the division, I would hate to see the Phillies become another victim.

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  1. Sean P.

    December 6, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    With the recent contracts given to Andruw Jones and Randy Wolf – i have to ask myself, why am i not a general manager in MLB.

    For the Andruw Jones deal to make any sense he has to put up back to back career years. Even in that unlikely scenario he would simply be getting paid what he is worth. Otherwise he is another overpaid MLB player.

    Wolf’s deal is inncentive driven by him not getting hurt, but still i don’t think he is worth the $9 mil.

  2. Brian R.

    December 6, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    The Marlins might not be tough next year. But with the six prospects they picked up from the deal with the Tigers and the good young players they acquired from dealing away there other players from their championship team they are only a few years from being a very dangerous team.

    Another aspect of the deal that might affect the Phils is that with the Tigers getting Cabrera, they will most likely trade theur current third basemen Brandon Inge. If Detroit picks up some of the 19.1 mil he is owed over the next 3 years, the phils might try to make a deal for him. This could finallu bring a decent thirdbasemen to philly, since it looks like it will be unlikely that Iguchi will be able to come back.

  3. VA Steve

    December 6, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    I agree with Brian. The Marlins have expressed interest in Wes Helms, so lets ship him to Florida, and work a deal with the Tigers for Inge. They would likely pick up some of Inge’s salary, so the net to the Phils (with Helms salary gone) would not be that great finacially, with a big upgrade at the hot corner. To me, the only other piece of the puzzle is to re-sign Rowand. His vetearn leadership and presence is as important as his on the field play, in my opinion.

  4. Greg

    December 7, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    That would be all fine and dandy, except that Brandon Inge stinks.
    I suppose he can’t be much worse than Helms and isn’t as much of a defensive liability. Can the Phils just please sign Rowand? We had shit for pitching last year, and Glendon Rusch sure isn’t the answer. Why not keep the lineup stocked to help with our shitty pitching?

  5. Gavin

    December 9, 2007 at 10:47 am

    IMPO, Since the Phillies can’t find pitching, then go ahead and sign Rowand and try and add someone at 3rd. Change your mindset and try to win with hitting like we did last year. That makes more sense than overpaying for some lame-ass pitcher like Chris Benson.

    I think Rowand will sign with the Padres. I really think he’s the glue of this team and we need to resign him. At the same time, his numbers won’t equate to the amount of money he’ll get.

    Don’t trade for Inge. He sucks. His Career OBP is barely over .300. Thats worse than Nunez. He also only hit 14 HR last year. I’d love to see Iguci back.

  6. Andrew

    December 9, 2007 at 2:25 pm

    The Marlins could be very dangerous in a few years. Until then, it baffles me that the Phillies were willing to offer Lowell $50 million over 4 years. Well, they haven’t picked up any pitching (except Youman), and they haven’t re-signed Rowand…so, where did that money magically disappear to?

  7. Chris.I

    December 9, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    The market is shit right now..I think Gillick is doing a great job not signing a jelly armed pitcher (Another Eaton and Garcia deal). It just wouldn’t make sense to me if they did. That just leaves us in a better pursuit & more money to roll over into next season. I personally think were good the way we are with pitching to be a competitive team. What can Kris Benson do that Eaton can’t? Its better to only have one Eaton, instead of two. I do agree with re-signing Rowand and/or Iguchi. We can bring someone up from our farm system if Eaton falls apart again.

  8. Sean P.

    December 9, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    yea, it seems less likely the Phils are getting Iguchi back per 🙁 which seems that signing Rowand is more of a priority. You know what your getting.

    God does Brandon Inge suck.. I can’t believe his name is ever brought up to play for the Phil. Besides his bad batting avg, OBP, etc.. he struck out 120-150 the past couple of years.

    One sidenote has an article about what playoff teams need in the offseason. The writer put down Kyle Kendrick as not being a viable starter for the Phils, which i think is ridiculous!

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