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Fielder’s Bombs Beat Hamels, Phils

121 pitches — a few too many.

Cole Hamels pitched fantastic between the second and seventh innings. He came into the eighth inning with over 110 pitches and quickly surrendered a sure double by Ryan Braun. Then Prince Fielder stepped up, and the guy who already hit a homer off Hamels nailed his second of the night, the game winner. The Phils lost 5-4.

Hamels shouldn’t have been out there in the eighth. JC Romero and Tom Gordon were both rested enough to go in the eighth and ninth, respectively. Hamels was spent and ended the seventh on a positive note. His ERA shot up to 2.75 despite striking out a season-high 11.

The Phils got offense again from Chase Utley and Pat Burrell; the bash brothers struck their 10th and 8th homers of the year, respectively. Greg Dobbs added his second blast of the year to round out the scoring, but it was Fielder who stole the show. The Brewers beefy first baseman is coming alive.

On the other side, however, the Phils’ beefy first baseman continues to downright stink. Ryan Howard went 0-for-5 with two strikeouts. The Phils couldn’t take advantage of a few chances with runners on base; instead, they settled for more home runs. Jayson Werth really came up short — he was caught trying to steal third base with nobody out in the seventh; in the ninth he struck out with So Taguchi at third with one out. Poor, poor, poor.

Still, one wonders if the Phils would’ve won if Manuel pointed to his bullpen when he should have.

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  1. steve

    April 24, 2008 at 1:08 am

    It’s past time for Charlie to either drop Howard down in the order (5 or maybe even 6) or sit him down for a day or two.

  2. Mark

    April 24, 2008 at 1:44 am

    After Manuels’ move with Myers against Colorado, which you pointed out, he went to the well once too many leaving Hamels to pitch the 8th inning after having logged 110 thru the 7th.

  3. typhoon

    April 24, 2008 at 2:09 am

    I think that Manuel forgot that the the bullpen this year is actually decent. If our starters can go 7 innings our bullpen should be fine. No need for Hamels to pitch in the 8th, especially with that high pitch count and everybody but Lidge available in the bullpen to pitch.

  4. Lewisauce

    April 24, 2008 at 5:00 am

    I know Charlie’s “gut” or whatever it is he relies on sometimes is correct, and I know he’s piloted the team to victory more than any other manager recently, but this was just an idiot move. There’s no other way to describe it. Cholly lost the game out of stupidity, pure and simple.

  5. Vernon Dozier

    April 24, 2008 at 6:37 am

    The Sporting News Fantasy Source is reporting that Jimmy Rollins actually has a BROKEN ankle:

    Jimmy Rollins – Phillies
    April 23, 6:11 p.m.

    Jimmy Rollins reportedly was found to have a break in his injured left ankle.

    Fantasy spin: If that’s the case, he may need to miss another four to six weeks. The Phillies have yet to comment, but they’ll probably have to talk about the matter before the end of the day.

  6. Mike

    April 24, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Ryan Howard needs to sit out at least one game and/or be dropped in the line-up. I’m thinking 7th? His situation is getting down right embarassing. He appears to be frustrated beyond belief. My advice: RYAN, MOVE CLOSER TO THE PLATE!!!! Create some plate coverage! It’s a no-brainer to me. What he is doing so far this season is clearly not working. Change it up a bit for once.

    “Ryan Howard at the plate. And here is the 0-2 pitch……a sweeping curve ball on the outside corner……stuck him out!” I am so tired of hearing that!!!!!

    It will not be long before the Philly Phans will really begin to get on him. Ryan, when you demand $10,000,000 a year to play baseball, you damn well better be able to produce to justify that kind of salary!

    ChUtley & Bat are having phenomenal seasons so far this year. Lets hope it continues and their magic spreads thoughtout the entire line-up.

    Go Phillies!!!!

  7. The Big Irish

    April 24, 2008 at 8:51 am

    So easy to play Monday-Morning Quarterback here with Charlie Manuel, but I really believe that it was a bad decision to allow Hamels to start the 8th inning. He had bounced back from a very rough (again) 1st inning to keep the club in the game the rest of the way and allow them a chance to come back. Seanez, Romero & Gordon should have ALL been available based on recent usage. Even Madson. They should have been out there with Hamels at 110 pitches and having already done his job. Isn’t that what we are paying those guys for anyway??? Bad decision, and it cost a game. Hopefully Charlie isn’t gonna do to Hamels what Dusty Baker did to Mark Prior.

  8. Gavin

    April 24, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Hindsight is 20-20. Charlie did the right thing in letting Hamels continue. It just didnt work out. If he took him out and then Romero gets shelled we’d all be complaining that if a pitcher cant go past 110 pitches he shouldnt be a big leaguer.

    Ryan Howard needs a day off. Maybe let him sit the next few LP and see if that helps.

  9. Geoff

    April 24, 2008 at 9:30 am

    Manuel will leave hamels in too long like at least 5 more times this year. he did it last year too. manuel racks up some pitcher abuse points in games like that when hamels isnt on a shutout or a no hitter and has thrown too many pitches but its still a tight game and hamels has been cruising. with howard: doesnt he look like relaly goofy and embarrassingly stupid up there? its absurb that they continue to let him look like a fool in the cleanuip hole. you cant throw away games like this. april or not everything matters. also, taht bothered me giving up homers to prince fielder. that guys is a total, complete, outright jackass. i cannot stand him.

  10. Mike T

    April 24, 2008 at 9:38 am

    I would like to see Chad Durbin take over Moyer’s spot in the rotation. 8-7 with a 4.72 last year, I’ll take it.

  11. Geoff

    April 24, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Also, i lived in pittsburgh for 6 years before coming back here. if the phillies do not SWEEP the pirates, then they SUCK. the pirates spent 7 million on their pay roll in 2002 and a little more in 2003. they probably spend between 20-35 million on their payroll now with their ballpark. this team is not trying to win, theyre trying to suck money out of their fanbase. if the phillies are a legit contender then they will do what all legit contenders do to teams taht arent trying to win: roll in there blow them out every game and move on like its no big deal. even one loss to that team is a disgrace.

  12. Mike T

    April 24, 2008 at 9:47 am

    I like the Phils to sweep out in Pittsburgh. But expect them to lose 2 out of 3 in the home series vs. the Bucs on August 8th – they always blow the late Pittsburgh series every year.

  13. Geoff

    April 24, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Thats a good idea mike t. im all for durbin booting moyer out of the rotation and getting rid of moyer. moyer brings nothing to the table to me and i cant watchi him pitch, i dont care what anyone says about it i think hes done.

  14. Vernon Dozier

    April 24, 2008 at 9:58 am

    The Pirates had a $42 million payroll in 2002 and start this season with a $48 million payroll. I don’t know where Geoff is getting his numbers from…

    Washington & Pittsburgh are the kind of teams the Phillies should beat but always seem to struggle against.

  15. Paul

    April 24, 2008 at 10:01 am

    I think Howard needs to sit the next time the Phillies play a tough lefty. He just looks lost up there right now.

  16. Don M

    April 24, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Hamels gets around 100 pitches and then can’t seem to keep the ball down in the strikezone… the reason he is so effective is that he can lowcate his fastball, (sometimes up around the batter’s eye-level, on purpose) and then follow that with his changeup low and away. The sign of a great pitcher is how often they make hitters swing&miss…or if the hitters are so fooled by a pitch that they buckle their knees…when Hamels is on, that is what you see. I saw him pitch Sat, April 12th vs. the Cubbies, and I think in the 7th or 8th, he was around that 90-100 pitch count, and just kept leaving pitches up in the zone… Fielder was a legit MVP candidate last year, and made Hamels pay, but Cole is still having a great season thus far, and pitched well again last night… and do you guys REALLY trust Madson or Gordon with a 1-run lead for two innings?? I don’t… I would trust Romero to go out there, but he can only give you an inning, I think the plan was try to have Cole get through that inning, then go with Romero AND Gordon in the last, depending on the matchups at the plate. Manuel has won a few games with his pinch-hitting choices lately, you can’t fault him for sticking with Cole here…sometimes moves backfire, this was one of those times.

    Dobbs is swinging a nice bat lately… and so is Coste…why not let one of them play 1st base (or Feliz can play 1st too), MAYBE TODAY with the early start time??? Manuel (a freak of a hitting instructor) told Howard that moving up in the box would allow him to cover more plate, Howard’s response was something about not being comfortable up there…. Well I’m not comfortable in my living room watching this guy strikeout 2+ times every game… sit him down, and make him listen to his coaches…

  17. Mike W.

    April 24, 2008 at 10:22 am

    Let’s not count Moyer out just yet. He pitched GREAT on saturday vs the mets after a bad 1st inning. He has a 4.79 ERA which is better than his ERA last year. If anyone deserves to be booted from the rotation it’s Kendrick.

    I love Dobbs and Coste. They just go up there and hit. I wish both of them started (at 3rd and C).

  18. Geoff

    April 24, 2008 at 10:37 am

    yeah. i dont know where i got that from. i remember the local pgh media reporting the season ending payroll as 7 million one year. it was not 1997 it was something like 2002 or 2003. one year they dumped aramis ramirez and a bunch of other people for almost nothing. not including the trade where they got oliver perez and jason bay. they generally slash payroll at the deadline, though they added matt morris last year which was their main payroll increease. regardless, theyre not trying to win that much iv obvious. when your payroll is 50 million and youre a pro baseball team thats disgraceful given the salaries of players today. that means youre trying to rake money and not trying to win. that much should remain obvious despite the number disparity. the phillies should annihilate this team, and if they dont theyre frauds at this time.

  19. Mike T

    April 24, 2008 at 10:40 am

    I would’ve had Romero go 2. Give him off today, and rest him game one of the Bucs series.

  20. Don M

    April 24, 2008 at 11:01 am

    People need to remember though that Romero was literally trash until we picked him up last year… he had been released by 2 teams?? … and when he first came up last year I hated the way he’d start walking off the mound at what he thought was a strike, openly yell at the umpire when he didn’t get calls, etc… But he was one of the biggest reasons that the Phillies made that push last year. Also, Alfonseca was big last year, espc when Myers was on the DL…until they used him up and he wasn’t effective. Thats what you need to be careful of with Romero… his strength is coming in and throwing

  21. Don M

    April 24, 2008 at 11:04 am

    ***and throwing less than 20 pitches or so

  22. Mike T

    April 24, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Don M: I’d love to comment, but I really have no idea what you’re trying to say.

  23. Mike T

    April 24, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Don M: Last season there were 12 games where Romero threw over 20 pitches. In those 12 games combined, Romero gave up 1 run.

  24. Don M

    April 24, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Mike T: I was trying to say that Romero is a guy that comes out, throws it with all he has and thats, that… Once he goes into the dugout, thats it.. his arm doesn’t respond the way a starter’s does, because his job is to go out there… throw strikes, usually to only a few batters. So with that being said, if they would have taken Hamels out for the 8th yesterday, you could have used Romero, but then you would have used Gordon for the 9th.. which I guess they should have done. But Manuel was simply trying to get Hamels thru that inning, and then play the percentages for each at-bat in the 9th… if only they could have gotten through that 8th inning..

  25. The Big Irish

    April 27, 2008 at 10:50 am

    I trust Madson, Romero, Gordon when they are rested and Hamels is over 110 pitches and has battled through a tough game already to put us in position to win. Yes, I trust them. The Phils bullpen has been good overall so far, I believe one of the best in baseball. They are making a major league salary. While healthy and rested, they should be out there in the 7th-8th-9th unless the starter is tossing a gem. They will blow a few, but they will get us through many more successfully.

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