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Odds And Ends: AAA Pitching, Olympic Stars

Some quick minor league notes that haven’t been covered here yet:

  • JA Happ had a very good first start back in Lehigh Valley. He went six innings, giving up just two hits while striking out 10.
  • Carlos Carrasco is also pitching well for the IronPigs. He hasn’t yet given up an earned run, with his last start going six innings. He struck out 10 and walked none in that outing.
  • And third on the IronPig docket is Kris Benson, who says he’s ready to pitch in the majors. In his last start he threw 97 pitches, 66 for strikes. He allowed three earned runs on nine hits with four strikeouts. He has a 5.09 ERA for the Pigs.
  • The U.S. Olympic team began play this morning. The team lost 8-7 to South Korea. Lou Marson played catcher for the final inning but didn’t hit; Jason Donald didn’t get in. Their next game is later today. And keep track on Marson and Donald through the Arizona Republic — Marson is a Scottsdale, Ariz., native, and Donald is a University of Arizona kid.

As for the pitching in triple-A, it’s great to see it. The Phils have two contingency plans (a lefty and a righty) in case something bad were to occur. And both are doing justifiably — especially Happ. And on Happ, considering Kendrick’s last start, would it be enough to beg to see Happ take a few starts with the Phillies? Then there’s Carrasco, who could get a September call-up. It’s good to se him dominate in LehighValley. He’s almost ready for the show.

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  1. Phil

    August 13, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    He needs a promotion to AA. He’ll be MLB ready by the end of next year if he continues at that pace.

  2. Fran

    August 13, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Thats a hell of a start tho

  3. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    This is the kind of reason that it makes sense to target College pitchers… this kid should be in AA-Reading next year.. and then they’ll be able to see what they have with him.. nice work Fran!

  4. NEPA

    August 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    I’d be impressed even if he was putting up those stats in the local little league. He looks very promising.

  5. Phil

    August 13, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    He’ll be in AA by September Don M. If he mows down AA like that next year then that’s an ace on our hands.

  6. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    I agree, Im all about college pitching.

  7. Mike N

    August 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Here’s an interesting question that I imagine other folks are wondering about too: looks like we might be going into next year with a glut of legit major-league starters. Right now our rotation looks pretty good, and it’ reasonable to expect them all back next year (surely they’ll re-sign Moyer to at least a one-year deal). In addition, maybe they’ll go after a front-line free-agent to go with Hamels (probably wishful thinking). But we’ve also got Carrasco and Happ who look to be ready to contribute. That makes seven guys. Should we: move Myers to the pen or deal him? Deal one or more of the young guys for a good right-fielder/third baseman? Replace Kendrick with Carrasco? Keep everyone since one or more of these guys is likely to be hurt and/or crazy for some portion of the season?

    (Yes, I’m already speculating about next year; even if we win the east, I don’t see us going very far in the playoffs)

  8. Phil

    August 13, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    I think we can get to the NLCS and lose the the Brewers but I don’t have time to explain why. I think they should get another front line starter and get rid of Myers. There are a lot of things this team needs to try and do. I’d be all for signing Joe Crede and getting rid of Feliz. We have a lot of pitching options for next year, and I really like that a lot.

  9. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    If Myers retains his new form throughout the rest of the season..and shows that he can be a legit top-of-the rotation pitcher.. there will be no need to trade him… His value may be higher, but if he finishes the year in the rotation, you will have a hard time selling him to teams as a Closer… and if he performs well enough that his value is high.. that also means that he has performed well enough that you want to keep him in your rotation..

    If Moyer feels fine, you need to keep him around.. his experience and ability to pitch in big games in invaluable.

    Lets see how well Carrasco finishes the season before we are ready to replace guys with him.. I’m pretty sure they are looking at Hamels, Blanton, as their 1-2 …unless you can get a guy to bump one of them..

    I see them making some moves this year, posbbily Myers, but a lot depends on what happens with Burrell and who they NEED to replace, before who the WANT to replace.. should be an interesting offseason again

  10. Todd

    August 13, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    anyone watching the olympic baseball game vs. korea? solid comeback in the 9th… bases loaded, 2 outs, 2 strikes… 2 run single.

  11. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    feliz is your 3b next year unless something drastic happens….hes signed too cheaply for them to want to move him. if hes leage average theyll keep him right there.

  12. danny

    August 13, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    That game was completed like 12 hours ago. What a tough loss…

  13. danny

    August 13, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Feliz is the man… His missing bat has hurt us (obviously)

  14. Todd

    August 13, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    woops, thought it was on now! haha

  15. VAPennStater

    August 13, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Bring Benson up…His wife is Hot

  16. MA Phanatic

    August 13, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    This Stutes guy is off to a great start, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. My guess is he’ll pitch the rest of the year in Class A, start next year in class A advanced, and have the possibility to move up to AA with a solid first 2 starts.

    I’m not saying he’s good, I’m just saying don’t give him any cy young’s just yet

  17. Squonk64

    August 13, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Benson might be ready to “practice” in the Bigs, but he is nowhere ready to play for a competitive team. The best thing the Phillies can do with Benson at this point is 1) trade him for a marginal prospect, or 2) offer him a very small MLB contract for the next few seasons. Benson won’t like either option, which means we won’t see Anna in the clubhouse next year.

  18. Squonk64

    August 13, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    By the way, where is the “Eaton fails in the minors, again, …” piece.

  19. Bruce

    August 13, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    To Squonk64~ Eaton had his finest start so far with Reading Phillies this past Sunday (Aug.10). See report from Reading Phillies below:

    ” Right-hander Adam Eaton, making his second start for the R-Phils and third in the minor leagues since being sent down from the big club in late July, enjoyed his finest start in more than two months.

    He allowed two runs and seven hits — just three hit crisply — with five strikeouts. He threw 86 pitches — 64 for strikes — and had the hitters off balance most of the way. As opposed to his first start, when he was saddled with six earned runs in 3.1 innings and threw mainly fastballs, he effectively mixed in his breaking ball and changeup and produced a gang of poor swings.

    Eaton never threw more than two balls to any of the 27 batters he faced. His fastball was clocked consistently between 89-92 mph, and he actually got stronger late in his outing.”

  20. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    adam eaton is NEVER coming back to the main squad. sorry to bust your bubble. hes gone after this year. if he DOES come back, SHAME ON THEM. if they bring him back up thats disgraceful and they should be MADE FUN OF intensely for it.

  21. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    climb off adam eatons dick bruce

  22. Kennedy

    August 13, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    If I were the Phils, I’d try to sell either Carrasco or Happ to the rockies for a 3b.

  23. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Yea Bruce… not thanks for posting something Phillies fans might want to see.. but get off his dick… Keep an eye on Geoff.. watch how he slowly goes up and down on Billy Beane’s….one of these days he’ll get all the way off… when he does, watch closely….

  24. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    on a side note…. the Phillies will win 10-3 tonight!!

  25. That Guy

    August 13, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Adam Eaton and Kris Benson need to hang on to the water wagon for dear life. If this was Oregon Trail they both would have aquired Dysentery somewhere around Nebraska

  26. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    another note: jimmy rollins called the phillies fans “frontrunners” among other nasty things today on a taping of best damn sports show.

    all i ask for out of our athlets is to do their very best to win, same with management, when i feel like thats not being done, i get angry.

    sounds like jimmy is trying to talk his way out of town….good, get out jimmy! asshole.

  27. So Taguchi

    August 13, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Don M. has established squatters rights on my dick all season!

  28. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    great oregon trail reference…classic.

    by the way, im more enamoured with the marlins approach than i am with beane. the marlins have win with their system.

  29. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    don m would like to jump on gillick’s, but bruce is already well entrenched on it.

  30. Georgie

    August 13, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Yeah, I just saw a clip of that on DNL, Jimmy made it pretty obvious he didn’t care for Phillies fans-said they were with the team when they are winning, but don’t support them if they’re not. Said St Louis fans always support the team, and Oakland fans just don’t show up.

  31. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    yeah thats the comment. i said earlier, youll see don. hell start doing more of this and talking his way out of here.

  32. Georgie

    August 13, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Howard didn’t have much to say in that clip, but they both looked rather stoned.

  33. That Guy

    August 13, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    I would ship those two stoner malcontents to the Cardinals for Pujols and Ludwick IN A HEARTBEAT. In fact, I would trade them both for Willie Mcgee and Joaquin Andujar

  34. Bruce

    August 13, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    I just got back from eating out and well…I knew the kind of response I would get regarding Eaton. Hey, that’s ok. I just brushed it off my shoulder. (chuckle) I just think Eaton had the same responsibility and assignment issued by management as Myers when going to the Minors; to regain his confidence and command of his pitches. If Phillies manage-
    ment is satisfied with Eaton’s progress and include him in their Sept. call
    ups, it would be hilarious to read the reactions of the naysayers (to be kind).

  35. Jamie

    August 13, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that part of the “agreement” the Phils had with Eaton and his agent were that they would call him up September 1 irregardless of how he performed. I say call him up pursuant to the agreement, and then shelve him in the locker room folding towels and scrubbing shitters. That’s right up his alley.

  36. Fran

    August 13, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    I highly doubt we’ll see Adam Eaton on this roster the rest of the season. Unless he has 3-4 solid pitching preformances

  37. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    I love how being a fan of your team, and realizing that the entire organization has played a part in their success the past few seasons means that you somehow have a hard-on for Gillick, or whoever certain fans feel like bashing that day.

    Honestly.. the responses on here 90% of the time means that Jimmy Rollins is exactly right.. They win and nobody cares, they lose and people scream about how they need to blow the team up and trade everyone..

    Hopefully they pull out of this funk and smash the ball tonight!!

  38. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    I personally don’t care if people do or don’t like certain aspects of this organization.. i’ve said LOTS of times that they should spend more money and yada yada yada…

    BUT to short-change them for the improvements they’ve made makes you seem petty..

    Im not asking for people to call this the greatest organization ever.. but we’ve got a very competitive baseball team for like the 5th year in a row.. now those guys that couldn’t get to the playoffs are gone (Lieberthal, Abreu, Bell, Wolf, Millwood, etc).. now its time for the young guys to step-up and try to make it happen.. so far it looks like they’re doing a pretty good job

  39. R.Mac

    August 13, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Don M. you are right on the money my friend.

  40. ryan

    August 13, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    rollins and howard need to be booed off the field when they return home. i don’t care how good they play for the rest of this trip. they purposely mouthed off while on the west coast thinking it will blow over before they get home. don’t let them get away with it!!!!! they need to be pelted with eggs. especially rollins, who has been nothing short of an arrogant self-centered jerk this entire year. not to mention he’s been terrible and is the main reason they don’t score runs.

    what they said was absolutely unacceptable and cowardly. J-Roll is becoming the baseball equivalent of T.O.

  41. ryan

    August 13, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    they wanna fuckin bitch about not having fan support when they phillies have sold out almost every fuckin game this whole year!!!!!??!!!. the place is packed for every fuckin game and they stink the joint up in half of em. i paid to see them go 12 innings and get shut out by the pirates on friday. they had twelve fucking innings to manufacture one measly run and couldn’t pull it off against the second worst team in baseball. gimme a fuckin break. and they can’t score for hamels ever. he deserves to be on a real team. if he were on the red sox this year and pitched the same way as he has his record would be 18-3

  42. Fred

    August 13, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    See, that’s the problem with this younger generation. Hooray for me and the hell with everybody else. Why expect anything different from your ballplayers?

  43. Grrrumpy Miner

    August 13, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Pelting your players with eggs? Riding other players “junk”? Folding towels and scrubbing toilets? Gee what a bunch of ingrates.These are the same guys you loved and revered last season and its time to curse each other out and throw eggs at those very same players who won you the NLEast.I always thought Philadelphia was the “City of Brotherly Love” but after reading these posts,looks like you want to throw each other under the bus on Belmont.

  44. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    i pay hard-earned money to go down there 10 times a year. i spend a lot of money down there. that statement from jimmy is totally unacceptable. he obviously wants out of town. instead of keeping it private and professional and asking for a trade in the offseason, he does it the hard way. well, lets oblige him.

    To Jimmy Rollins: Fuck you, you piece of shit. Get the fuck out of my city. I dont want to even look at you on this team next year. Go out to california and leave us alone, asshole.

  45. nate

    August 13, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    yikes… we could very very easily be in a tie for first tonight.

  46. That Guy

    August 13, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    I definitely feel like a frontrunner with all the championships J-Roll has won us. This guy is worse than Dave Montgomery. I guess he thinks they won the world series last year when in reality they won a heaping pile of fuck off. I seem to remember a bunch of happy assholes greeting these ungrateful pricks at the airport after they got their doors blown off by the Crotchies. This guy is playing with fire. We can make it rain down on him worse than Chazz Michael Micheals at Grublets on Ice.

  47. Amanda

    August 13, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    what exactly did j-roll say and ryan howard say ? i must have missed it, i tried to find it in an interview and dont see anything

  48. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    yeah he doesnt know what we can do. we can make him want out of here desperately by the end of the next homestand.

  49. Fred

    August 13, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    How about equal treatment for Myers?

  50. Geoff

    August 13, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    hes gone too.

  51. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    He didn’t say anything that he and every other athlete hasn’t said before.. When asked what it was liked to play in Philadelphia.. Jon Sally jumped in said “rough, he never played here but has family here” something like that.. and Jimmy said something along the lines of, “I know I’m going to catch a lot of flak for this, but they’re like frontrunners”… but he was apparently comparing that to St. Louis where they are all-happy-all-the time.

    When you hear it in context its not that bad, and like I said before, that fact that people want to jump off a bridge everytime they lose makes him correct in his statement.. here is what i said about it earlier.

    “Honestly.. the responses on here 90% of the time means that Jimmy Rollins is exactly right.. They win and nobody cares, they lose and people scream about how they need to blow the team up and trade everyone.. “

  52. Don M

    August 13, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    And Todd Zolecki was on SportsNite.. and said Rollins was also talking about times when they are winning games, and Ryan Howard will strikeout and the fans get all over him and BOOOOOO like crazy.

    He’s got a point..

    More than half of the people on here look at the glass as half empty… even when its in first place

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