Commentary: In Crazy Times, Pragmatism Prevails

This morning I wrestled with myself …

My emotional side found the rain delay and game suspension to be exactly the event that occurs against Philadelphia. The 1977 rain that played its part in finishing the Phils against the Dodgers. The Fog Bowl. Etc. Etc.

I thought, “That’s it. This is the moment we look at for years. We had a 3-1 lead, the rain came, it slowed everything down, we lost.”

I thought that the Rays now had momentum, seemed chipper and carefree about the whole charade. And Joe Maddon spoke to the media, while Charlie Manuel refused. Phils players in the locker room cursed Bud Selig. They’re unfocused, I thought. This sucks.

Then my pragmatic side stepped in, and told me that’s utter nonsense. They’ll be focused when they have to play, I thought. And this team is not 1977, or the Fog Bowl Eagles, or whatever. We’ve seen all season that this team gets the job done when they need to.

The Phillies have been in hairy situations before, and while this situation seems the most absurd of them all, it won’t deter the team from doing its deed.

Here’s what we know, for sure: The Phillies and Rays are tied in the bottom of the sixth. Cole Hamels is out of the game (though I don’t know how much longer he would’ve had anyway). The Phils need to score one run in the next 12 outs, while preventing the Rays from scoring one run in their next nine.

We also know the Phillies bullpen has been tremendous all season and postseason. And we can expect a combination of Chad Durbin/Scott Eyre/JC Romero/Ryan Madson/Brad Lidge to get the final outs.

We also know the Rays have Grant Balfour pitching, but can bring in anyone, including David Price. But we know the Phils have hit the Rays bullpen so far, including Price.

Look, things may seem bleak and confusing now. That’s nature. That’s how we’re conditioned to act. But when it gets down to it, the Phils are at the advantage. They have more chances to hit. They have the home field. They can shake off the pressure and play their game as well as possible. So what that Hamels is out? One man does not a 25-man roster make. And if any team has proved it this season, it’s the Phillies.

Let the Rays have their 9=8 philosophy. I got one for us: 3=W. For the next three full innings, play the best damn baseball you can, and you will win. And then we can celebrate the world championship. And I know we will.



  1. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Tim, I mean this in the most manly way possible:

    I love you, man!

  2. bigmyc

    October 28, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Hey, bravo, Tim. Bravo.

    Great posting…it nicely sums it all up. I feel better already. It’s not this team that I worry about, it’s the crazy circumstances that we have to face as a sports town be it super hot goalies in tournament time, cheating signal stealing Football dynasties, Pea soup thick Lake Michigan fog, Joe Carter and now THIS little fit from Mother Nature….

    But I agree, if there is a team that can man up over it, it would be these guys.

  3. Dave

    October 28, 2008 at 9:23 am

    Tim, this is why your blog is great.

    I have absolute faith that the Phillies will win the rest of this game. There’s no doubt in my mind.

    I just feel it is beyond ridiculous that they went out for the sixth inning in the first place. They allowed Tampa to tie the game without giving the Phillies the same opportunity in the bottom of the inning.

    If Selig was going to put it in a perpetual rain-delay, then why start the 6th at all?

  4. Griffin

    October 28, 2008 at 9:24 am

    MLB was rooting for the Rays just so they could delay the game. As long as the Phils were winning they were going to keep playing. I’m worried about david price pitching 4 or 5 innings (he’ll be on 4 days rest).

    Are they even going to get the game in tonight in Philly? How’s the weather?

  5. Craig

    October 28, 2008 at 9:25 am say’s there’ll be rain this all day today.


  6. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 9:29 am

    If it gets rained out today and god forbid this series goes to a game 7, we would then have Hamels starting on a full 4 days rest Saturday night right?

  7. Paul

    October 28, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Nice post.

    The Phils have an extra 3 outs to get one more run than the Rays.

    It’s not a lost cause at all.

    However, that was very frustrating last night.

  8. Mike N

    October 28, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Wouldn’t surprise me if we see only Madson and Lidge. Maybe Romero if there’s a lefty up in the eighth.

  9. MikeJG529

    October 28, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Everybody should be available to pitch except for Hamels. 9 outs is all we need. No saving Myers for game 6, we need to go for the jugular now. We’ve shown we can manufacture runs. The Rays had to sleep in Delaware last night, hopefully badly. It will happen tonight.

  10. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 9:46 am

    Everyone just needs to take a collective hugh breath and just realize that this game and series WILL be won HERE!!!!

    Btw…….Tim………Can YOU run for President?

  11. Paul

    October 28, 2008 at 9:47 am


    I think you might be right. If the game rains out today, and is finished tomorrow, I guess it’s possible Hamels could pitch a game 7 on 4 days rest. Not sure if Charlie would do that though.

  12. Manny

    October 28, 2008 at 9:50 am

    You know what? I really hope we don’t play today. I’m way too upset right now to see this game. I bet our players could use the day off to channel their energies and go out full force tomorrow.

  13. Chase Mutley

    October 28, 2008 at 9:51 am

    I took off work today. It’s funny that I would have dragged myself in if they won, even if they lost. I just feel completely deflated today. Lets hope that remainder of the game gets postponed until Wednesday because if the players are feeling a quarter of what I am, they’ll need today to simmer down.

  14. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 9:52 am

    Paul/NEPA…..I was think the same thing about Hamels in a potential Game 7. How many pitches did he have last night? I think it was relatively low. But……seriously……it’s NOT gonna go 7………NOT even 6. We win it HERE!!

  15. Greg V.

    October 28, 2008 at 9:52 am

    I would have taken a win or a loss better than I’m taking this! This is absolutely horrible!

  16. Ben

    October 28, 2008 at 9:54 am

    When it was 2-1 I was definitely thinking to myself that 2 runs is not going to win this game. So in my opinion the game is exactly where it should be. They have an extra 3 outs on the Rays. If anything that at least means someone’s gonna get 2 ABs. We all know the game wasn’t going to be shortened no matter what. So the Phillies find themselves in a situation they’ve been in a lot this year. Close game late and one of the best bullpens in baseball. AND they can still get Hamels the win. Go Phillies!!!

  17. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Chuck, it doesn’t matter how many pitches he had last night. He would be on full rest.

  18. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Yeah, I hope it’s tomorrow. I need some sleep tonight anyway as I’m sure the players do. Weather looks real bad. Just talked to a buddy who said it’s snowing in Willow Grove. Jesus!!

  19. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 9:55 am

    NEPA…if he pitches Friday it’s short rest. The only way it would be full is if Game 7 was played on Sat.

  20. Joe Green

    October 28, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Current forecast – at 8pm ET tonight – 50% chance of showers – 41 degrees – feels like 31 degrees – wind from WNW @ 25 mph.

    Would Bud Selig dare to move on to games 6 and 7 in Tampa Bay and play the rest of this game 5 if necessary in Philadelphia on Saturday?

  21. NC Jason

    October 28, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Hamels was around 71 pitches last night

  22. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 9:57 am

    Agreed. I am not ready to watch this game tonight. Let the weather settle down and play it Wednesday, or even Thursday if you have to. Make the Rays hang out in the North as long as possible and get Hamels rested in case we need him. Haha, I also think there’s a part of me that just doesn’t want this season to end. It’s been quite a ride.

  23. Dennis

    October 28, 2008 at 9:57 am

    It’s been snowing pretty steadily for about 3 hours up here in Chalfont, just north of Willow Grove. Another incentive to win this thing at home, Bud Selig handing that trophy over, when they announce him at CBP, he is going to get killed! 9 outs and 1 run fromt the title! GO PHILS!

  24. NC Jason

    October 28, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Has MLB come out and said that game 7 would be on Saturday?

  25. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Yea Chuck, that’s what we were talking about. If today is rained out and we play the remainder of game 5 tomorrow, then we’re assuming Game 6 and 7 would be Friday and Saturday.

  26. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Ben….think about this too. If the game were to to resume in the top 6th with a 2-1 lead, who’s to say the Rays wouldn’t score MORE than one run. Cole did a GREAT job only allowing one run in that inning…..basically w/o his change up either!!

  27. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 10:00 am

    NEPA….Iwas under the impression that there would be no day off…meaning that Wed we finish this game……Game 6 Thurs and Game 7 Fri. Have you heard differently?

  28. Joe Green

    October 28, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Reasons for my theory is that Saturday’s forecast is pretty good and Bud is good for doing the unpredictable.

  29. NC Jason

    October 28, 2008 at 10:02 am

    There is no guarantee that Saturday would be game 7 – it could be Friday. So I think we all need to root for the rain and hope that everything is pushed back to get Hamels a start in game 7 – IF NEEDED

  30. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Joe….No way that scenario happens…….Even Selig isn’t THAT stupid (at least I hope not)

  31. Brian

    October 28, 2008 at 10:02 am

    I don’t see them playing tonight. I really hope they don’t. If we’re delayed till Wednesday, Hamels will/should be available for a game 7. He only threw 75 pitches last night.

    If this game was going into a never ending delay it should have been stopped long before it was. IMHO it wasn’t ever going to be stopped if either team had a lead.

  32. NC Jason

    October 28, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Chuck ~ MLB has not come out with a definite schedule. Here is a link discussing it.

  33. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 10:04 am

    No, I thought that they always gave a day off for traveling. I really don’t know how these type of things are handled.

  34. 98Rays

    October 28, 2008 at 10:04 am

    “MLB rooting for the Rays” what a joke! The fix was in, both Buck and McCarver saw the strikes Kazmir threw called balls, Hamels just has to get close and it’s a strike. The Mo Mo is gone for the Sillies. Look at history Bird fans, any Florida team ever to make the post season has won it all. Pack your bags for Game 7 it’s a lock!


  35. Dennis

    October 28, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Enough with the lets hope Hamels is available for Game 7 talk! Let’s win at home whenever the hell they decide to play again, we have to win a 3 and half inning game where we get the extra at bat….

  36. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Oh my….the idiot trolls are back

  37. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 10:11 am

    The term “Murphy’s Law” must have been coined by a Philly sports fan.

  38. Gavin

    October 28, 2008 at 10:12 am

    I’m glad someone out there is positive. I just have this sinking “Bartman” feeling in my gut.
    The right thing to do is to go ahead and plan the last 3 games out so that the fans, caoches, and players can lay out their plan. To keep dragging their feet and holding out hoping to play tonight is as stupid as playing last night.
    Go ahead and plan for Game 5 on Wed, Game 6 on Fri and Game 7 on Saturday. I think that is the smart thing to do, but as we know……that doesnt always happen. Whatever Fox wants Fox gets.

  39. Pat

    October 28, 2008 at 10:16 am

    98Rays, I’ve been watching the game’s on TV and on the MSN feed. I’d agree with you about the strike zone, but I have yet to see it adjusted for any batter or any pitch. How could you say that Burrell or Howard’s zone is the same as Vic’s or Rollins? A pitch at Vic’s knees (strike) would be below Burrell’s (ball).

  40. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Did anyone else feel physically ill last night? I’m sure most.

  41. Tim Malcolm

    October 28, 2008 at 10:20 am

    To be honest, I actually didn’t feel the game at all. I was at a new bar, kinda weird, and the noise was drowning things out, and I didn’t feel completely up to snuff. And when the rain started I began to doubt things. Just wasn’t a good thing.

    I’ll actually contend that the BEST THING may be that this game stopped at 2-2.

  42. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 10:25 am

    I was feeling it in the early innings. We were up 2-0, Cole was cruisin’. Then the rain started coming down harder and from there it just got progressively worse.

  43. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Ah, no wonder this happened-the jinxtress Sarah Palin is just up the road in Hershey, Pa.

  44. Manny

    October 28, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Oh man, I wasn’t feeling this game at all yesterday, Tim. The rain also gave doubts though I also tried to imagine Brett Myers rolling in the mud celebrating… I think we all got too ahead of ourselves.

    And I agree with Gavin: go ahead and set this game for Wednesday night. I think that part of what’s killing us right now is that everything is up in the air. The players, the fans, the manager all need to know what’s gonna happen with this Series NOW.

  45. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Absolutely Tim……Hamels got out of the 6th only giving up one run in those conditions……pretty remarkable!!

  46. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Georgie……oh yeah….there’s a major election next Tues. Maybe the Rays can adopt cute little Sarah as their good luck charm……she can be a……..”Baseball Mom.”

  47. NEPA

    October 28, 2008 at 10:42 am

    I think the thing that made it so tough last night was the fact that we still had the lead with 2 outs, nobody on. All of a sudden, single – stolen base – RBI single – Tie Game. It wouldn’t have been so bad but the Phils had no immediate chance at a rebuttal. Now we have to wait a day or 2 for our chance to get back at them, all while having this bad taste in our mouths.

  48. Paul

    October 28, 2008 at 10:47 am

    I agree Tim.

    Once the rain started I began to get nervous. It was probably a good thing that the game stopped when it was. (However… the game probably should have never started to begin with)

    The delay can easily derail any momentum that the Rays may have gotten last night.

  49. Ben

    October 28, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Thats exactly what I’m talking about Chuck. Hamels really stepped up his game again and got out of that inning. He easily could have imploded in that situation with the conditions. Phillies just need to come out and put the pressure on.

    In the end, I don’t care when the game is played. Today or tomorrow. Just as long as the Phils win.

  50. adam

    October 28, 2008 at 10:55 am

    whenever this thing starts the phils bullpen will dominate and someone (i say that because everyone has contributed at some point) will get the clutch hit and win us a WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP!

  51. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 10:56 am

    Chuck, I lost my connection to PN after the game was called, and couldn’t get back on, so I went to bed (sleep didn’t come easy though). Catching up on posts this am, I saw SJMike was having chest pains! Holy Christ, I hope he’s ok.

  52. Josh Baltimore

    October 28, 2008 at 10:56 am

    I am still completely ill from last night. The key word here is FRUSTRATION. Luckily I was home with the wife and not at the game or I wouldve been LIVID. Selig is a joke, MLB rules are a joke (changing last minute). Should parking be free tonight for people driving to the game? Also, seriously Rays fans, if the tables were turned, how would YOU feel? This is all about FOX. Did anyone notice the wind blowing last night? It kind of reminded me of Joe Buck.

  53. Josh Baltimore

    October 28, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Also, how many people are actually going to go back to the game tonight (or whenever)? This will not be a full stadium if they again.

  54. Josh Baltimore

    October 28, 2008 at 10:59 am

    This is just another black eye on the debacle known as Philadelphia Sports History.

  55. Keith

    October 28, 2008 at 11:04 am

    ugh, so we shall wait until Wednesday pretty much

  56. adam

    October 28, 2008 at 11:05 am

    the stadium WILL BE FULL!

  57. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Last night was a perfect example of all that’s wrong with Bud Selig. It’s not that he is trying to be unfair, but that he is constitutionally incapable of being forthright.

    Game 5 was played in bad conditions for too long, and it was then suspended after Tampa Bay managed to pull out a questionable run in circumstances in which baseball should never have been played. The appearance is that MLB waited for a tie – understandable given that the rules call for Philly to win if it was suspended after five with a lead. It looked fishy – and then it got worse.

    Enter stammering Bud, MLB’s answer to Verbal Kint, to flub around talking about the rules and to claim to have made decisions earlier which even the players on the field knew nothing about. Bud looked bad, and with him baseball looked bad, and it is inevitable that conspiracy theories will now shroud this world series forever.

    It didn’t have to be this way; all MLB needs is a credible leader.

    I’m not saying that Selig is utter slime. I’m not saying he’s trying to make the Rays win, or the Phillies loose, or Fox Sports rich. It’s just that he follows the Sneakybastard® philosophy of leadership. Make all decisions behind closed doors, only give out information when pressed, and act guilty. The result is that everyone thinks you’re a sneaky bastard and mistrusts everything you do. I’m not saying that Selig is a sneaky bastard. Perhaps he is a good husband and father, gives lots of money to orphans and stray cats, and helps old ladies across the street. Perhaps. But he has perfected the Sneakybastard® approach.

  58. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Here are the scenarios I find possible:

    1. Bud decided before game three that no game would go less than nine innings, but he kept it to himself because technically its against the rules. Coming into game five he had this in the back of his mind, but still was vague about it. As conditions deteriorated and Philly held a lead, he thought to himself, “Oh no, nobody knows the plan. If I suspend this, It’ll look like I don’t know what I’m doing.” So he waited for a tie, decided to pull the trigger, and he looks like a sneaky bastard.

    2. Bud never said a word to anybody about suspending games, but he knew in the back of his mind that it wouldn’t be fair to let it end on a called game. So as the conditions deteriorated he thought “We can’t call this. If Philly has to start over tomorrow night and looses those two runs everybody will blame me!” So they kept playing. Then, after the top of the fifth, he thought, “Oh no, if we stop now Tampa looses and everybody will blame me!” They kept playing. Then the game got tied and he saw his chance. Suspend the game! Then somebody said, “Uh, Bud, you gotta do a press conference now.” So he lied, unconvincingly, and he looks like a sneaky bastard.

    That’s the essence of the Sneakybastard® approach. No matter what happens, you look worse than you actually deserve.

  59. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 11:07 am

    How would an actual leader have handled this?
    1. Best option: when Saturday looked so bad he would have called together both teams and said, “Look, we don’t want called games deciding this, so lets all agree to a suspension policy. Then go to the network, the teams, everybody, and lay it all out. Problem solved.”

    2. Next best option: when game five looked so shaky, tell Fox Sports, “Sorry, we’re playing this tomorrow night. We just don’t have a policy in place to fix this if the game starts and has to be stopped, so we’re putting it off.” Problem solved.

    3. Not so great, but still OK option: Around about the fourth inning when conditions obviously get bad, call for a rain delay. Assuming by now you’ve realized the need to clean things up a little, send your underlings to both clubhouses and explain what’s about to happen to everybody. Then call the network, get on TV, and announce a suspended game. Say, “This isn’t in the rulebook, but it’s clearly fair and its what we’re doing.” Problem isn’t solved at this point – Hamels is done and Tampa is down two to nothing saying, “Shouldn’t tonight be wiped off the books?” But it’s better than what we have.

    4. Not an option at all to a real leader: Act like a sneaky bastard.

  60. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Georgie….SJ was out of control. I hope he got some sleep. It was pretty crazy in here at 1:30 AM. I should have been in bed but got sucked into the conversation. Thank God for this site!!

  61. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 11:10 am

    Brew- very nicely said. More and more people in positions of power seem to be adopting the “Sneakybastard” approach.

  62. NJ (Go Joe Bombton!)

    October 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Does everyone else feel like this game has been handed to the Rays?

    Cole is elinimated from the game despite a low pitch-count and the Rays can re-group after Kazmir’s bad outing. I’m not questioning to stop, but mid-inning with the Rays having just scored sends out alarm bells of bias to make the game fair… Sorry but the Phils worked for the upper hand and the Rays are being given a get out of jail card and another one saying advance to go in one.

  63. SJ Mike

    October 28, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Yeah, guys, I’m ok.

    Trying to catch up and read up on everybody’s comments. I did get to sleep. I guess the massive headache from last night got me tired enough.

    Woke up, when and got my flu shot with my dad and we talked calmly about how ridiculous it was last night.

  64. Josh Baltimore

    October 28, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Let’s be honest, as bad as I want a full CBP, how many people are going to come back for 3 inning game?

  65. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Glad you’re still with us SJ…..

  66. 98Rays

    October 28, 2008 at 11:18 am

    If an umpire was in the 07 series he can’t be in the 08? WTF?? No wonder the calls in this series have sucked. I love the banter here, you guys are feeling it in your gut, been there before to many times. You gotta hate Tampa bay teams, Lightning, Bucs and now the Devil Rays. Too funny, I hope your boy Hamels can pitch game 7 so you get to see him rocked. The Dream season from last to 1st will not end tonight in the city of Brotherly Abuse. The Rays are best when backed against the wall. Back to the ugly Fruit Dome for the final two and another championship for Tampa Bay!


  67. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 11:19 am

    No way that ballpark isn’t packed. Even if people can’t come back they give (or sell) their tix to others. I’m not even remotely worried abou that possibility.

  68. Richie Allen

    October 28, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Hope we finish this tonight…I dont know about you guys but I go into deep depresion every winter till opening day..but this year we’ll have a Series win to keep us happy over the winter.

  69. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Chuck, I was like SJ in 1980, I watched the games with my mom and dad, and as soon as the Phils would start to lose, my dad would run upstairs and we would have to turn the tv down to the point we couldn’t even hear it, and my dad would yell down the steps-“I can still hear that damned game, turn it down!”.
    Our family never had intact portable radios either. My dad used to listen to the games in his hammock, and I can’t tell you how many times I saw him drop kick the radio across the lawn. He’d go over, pick it up, dust it off, try to fix the dangling antenna, and go back to his hammock. Oh, the many fond memories I have of our beloved Phillies.

  70. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 11:22 am

    What does the 98 mean in your name Rays?……..98 times you’ve been a freaking ass**** in the past hour? The only thing we’re feeling in our gut is shutting people like you up. What, are you Maddon’s little spokesboy?

  71. Geoff

    October 28, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Also, these newfound Rays fans are all Mets fans, just to shed light on that…

    Anyways, there isnt going to be a game 7. There isnt even going to be a game 6. When they restart this game the phillies are going to grab the lead in the bottom of the 6th or 7th off of David Price. Maybe just a solo HR or soemthing. Then, the bullpen will shut the door and theyll win.

  72. SJ Mike

    October 28, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Good article by Jayson Stark, as usual.

    He lets Selig have it.

    If the weather forecast is scary enough before ANY postseason game to give the commissioner, in his own words, “significant trepidation” about playing, let’s not start it. OK?

    It’s that simple. What happened to the Phillies on Monday should never happen to any team in this situation. And Bud Selig knows it.

    And here’s what he also knows: The Phillies had better go on to win this World Series. Because if they don’t, the always-magnanimous residents of Philadelphia aren’t going to blame Charlie Manuel, the next three losing pitchers or good old Mother Nature.

    They’re going to blame him, Bud Selig.

    So if the commish has always wanted to, say, tour Independence Hall, there may be no better time than the last Tuesday in October.’

  73. Chuck

    October 28, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Priceless, Georgie……absolutely priceless. Keep those stories coming people…’s what’as gonna get us through this. We WILL prevail!!

  74. Josh Baltimore

    October 28, 2008 at 11:26 am

    98Rays, did you know there was baseball in Tampa for 10 years?

  75. NJ (Go Joe Bombton!)

    October 28, 2008 at 11:26 am

    I hope your right Geoff becuase the World and his dog are now rooting for the Rays to come back and Selig has proved once again he’s a toothless commisioner who won’t stand up on anything.

  76. NJ (Go Joe Bombton!)

    October 28, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Selig really reminds me of Charlton Heston as the NFL commisioner in Any Given Sunday, he really is starting to seem like a pompous old man who can’t tell his left from right unless someone makes the decision for him. He inspires so little confidence in the future of MLB under him.

  77. Keith

    October 28, 2008 at 11:31 am

    its snowing here at Rutgers, so when are they going to announce that the game will be pushed back till tomorrow?

  78. Phil

    October 28, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Tim, your posts are so great.

    I was at the game last night. What an outrage. Bud Selig should be fired immediately. This game shoulda started 2 hours early or have been postponed. Everyone knew the weather was going to hit at 9 oclock. Now Hamels can’t pitch and might not go 5-0 unless the Phillies come out swinging in the bottom of the 6th. It sucked having to sit through that freezing cold rain during the game. I can only imagine what the players were going through. I spent a lot of money on beer at the game, and now I have to spend more. I’m sure the owners of the Phillies are loving this. More parking, more concessions. This is bullshit. They better sign CC or Lowe or someone from the money they’re making form this debacle. I don’t think the game will resume until Thursday, and at least we know Hamels can pitch game 7 if need be. Hopefully they just seal the deal when the game resumes for the home crowd.

  79. Chase Mutley

    October 28, 2008 at 11:32 am

    I’m not nominating myself because, well, I have a job and probably won’t care about any of this is the Phillies’ win this game but, if there is someone a bit more ambitious out there that would prepare a form letter and list the email addresses for advertisers in yesterday’s game, I think I speak for many that we would love to tell them about the negative association we now have between their product and the terrible product MLB put out there last night.

    To be honest, Direct TV and that stupid National Lampoon commercial will always be associated with one of the sloppiest World Series’ I’ve ever seen. Not just the rain but the blown calls, chaotic strike zones, etc. I’d love to let all of these businesses know how the consumer feels about their product being tied in with this bullsh*t series. I’m sure this is something that not only Phillies fans but Rays fans and fans of baseball in general can get behind. I’m glued to this series because it’s my team but if this was any other two teams I would practically refuse to acknowledge that this World Series counted.

  80. Phil

    October 28, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Mutley…all I have to say is:

    Saaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvveeeeeed byyyyyyyyyyyyy zeeeeeeeerooooooooo

    Saved by zero saved by zero

  81. SJ Mike

    October 28, 2008 at 11:37 am

    I sincerely hope this just becomes a “blip” as people call it and nothing more then comedic fodder for the highlight DVD with a Phillies win.

  82. Keith

    October 28, 2008 at 11:38 am

    is it snowing where you are, SJ Mike?

  83. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 11:42 am

    Thank you Phil! Now I get to have THAT in my head all day!

  84. Phil

    October 28, 2008 at 11:44 am

    haha it’s been in my head the whole month of October. Damn them!

  85. BrewTownPhilsPhan

    October 28, 2008 at 11:45 am

    You know what? I have absolutely no idea what that stupid jingle even advertises! So much for market impact.

  86. SJ Mike

    October 28, 2008 at 11:46 am

    Keith, no. I’m in Gloucester County. It is frigid outside and still raining, but no snow. The temperature says 41.

    But you know that feeling or smell you get when it does snow in the winter? It does have that sense to it.

  87. Phil

    October 28, 2008 at 11:48 am

    I feel the same way Brewtown. I don’t get it. At least come up with something intelligent like the people. Those jingles are genius.

  88. Dennis

    October 28, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Still snowing here in Chalfont, PA and started to stick, almost an inch on the ground… Is hell freezing over? PHILS ARE GOING TO BE CHAMPS!!!

  89. Keith

    October 28, 2008 at 11:54 am

    oo I live in Gloucester County too, but I’m in college at Rutgers-New Brunswick, which is like half North Jersey half South Jersey.

  90. 98Rays

    October 28, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Very good Josh the O’s fan! Was at your team’s last game at Old Memorial you lost. Yes 98 was the 1st year we had baseball, and no I am not a Mets fan, don’t have them here in Tampa, just Yanks and Sox fans. And yes I have been here since 98 sitting with the 3000 Devil Rays fans and the 10000 Boston and NY fans in August when everyone else had started talking football. And yes I have been to games in the late 80’s at the Vet, at the Spectrum ( a few Jerry shows as well) and I have seen your passion and abuse first hand. Putting all the B.S. aside, you all know in your heart of hearts who has the better team here and there not from the NL. You would have finished 4th at best in the AL East this year! I have felt your pain for 10 long years I don’t want to call it a “curse” or anything like that but the tide has changed and the Tampa Bay Rays will be World Series Champs in 08!


  91. I know Sal..

    October 28, 2008 at 11:58 am

    supposedly MLB is drafting a letter to reschedule the game for a later date (and not tonight).

  92. Manny

    October 28, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    I realllllllyyyyyy hope they don’t play tonight. It could be ugly.

    1. Rain (or light rain) with a lot of wind.
    2. If for any reason we lose today, the series will probably continue tomorrow in Tampa Bay, as scheduled –with no travel day. Losing today would mean playing TOMORROW in TAMPA. The whole thing would make it even more unfair on the Phillies and, once again, give the Rays an edge.

    On the other hand, if they schedule the game for Wednesday:

    1. Cold but no rain. Playable.
    2. Because they would HAVE to change the schedule for the Tropicana Fielda games anyway, there would be a good possibilty that they DO give a travel day (Thurs) before Games 6 and 7 (Friday and Saturday).

    Since BUD SELIG AND MLB screwed up our night (especially Hamels’ night) yesterday, I think that the least they could do is let us play on Wednesday, give us the day off today and on Thursday, leaving the possibility for Hamels to pitch on Game 7 on normal rest if it comes to that.

  93. Keith

    October 28, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    So does Taguchi pinch hit for Hamels to start the bottom of the 6th?

  94. Brian Michael

    October 28, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    I have a question. Out of superstition I have eaten a cheesesteak at the past 3 games in Philly and the Phils won the first 2. Should I eat another tonight, or did last night’s count?

  95. bull

    October 28, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    word is the game is already called off for tonight and scheduled for weds…press release coming soon…

  96. bull

    October 28, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    brian, i think you need to eat another one

  97. Wilson

    October 28, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    I think you gotta eat one tonight. I mean besides your arteries and general good health, what could it hurt????

  98. I know Sal..

    October 28, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    It looks like to be on the safe side, Brian, you need to eat one tonight, and tomorrow night…and if the game doesn’t get held until Thursday, then Thursday night too.

  99. I know Sal..

    October 28, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    If your going to go to Steve’s to get them, pick me up one and I’ll meet you at your cousin’s house!

  100. Georgie

    October 28, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Brian, a cheesesteak a day will make the Devil Rays pay.

  101. Dennis

    October 28, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Did I mention today that I love Brett Myers? Or at least the unkown pitcher who said he wouldn’t let Bud Selig supervise one of his bowel movements. HAHAHA! Let’s gather up the snow outside and pelt Bud just like santa, which we have heard about everyday for a month…

  102. 98Rays

    October 28, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Just got 4 tickets to game 6! $225 face, sweet!


  103. Wilson

    October 28, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    I’m hearing they’re canning it for tonight and they’re gonna try for tomorrow….any truth to that?

  104. Wilson

    October 28, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    apparently they’re going to release a press release at 2pm announcing the new schedule

  105. Joe Green

    October 28, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Do the fans have to pay for parking again at CNB and surrounding lots? MLB should reimburse them if they do.

  106. Wilson

    October 28, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    I heard that you would be allowed to re-enter the lot if you have the pass or reciept from last night

  107. Dave

    October 28, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Rays win? Only if they can play in the snow….

  108. Manny

    October 28, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Wilson, hopefully. Some people are saying that but I need to see the official press release. Selig said yesterday that this game will be continued only under “decent” conditions –tonight looks windy, chilly, and rainy. Play this on Wednesday, give all players enough time to mentally reset themselves and LETS WIN THIS!!!!!!!!

  109. Matt

    October 28, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Well written Tim. Excellent transition from hopeless to hopeful, and I couldn’t agree with you more

  110. Brian Michael

    October 28, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Yes, if you have your parking receipt from last night, then you can get in for free tomorrow.

  111. Phil

    October 28, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    If I have my cup from the beer I drank there will they refill it for me? They should since I had to get drunk twice because Selig is a moron. If the people can park for free again then we should get drunk for free. haha

  112. TwoTonsOfIrony

    October 28, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Hey, with the people talking like the stadium won’t be full, if for any reason there is someone on here who has a ticket that they won’t be able to use, I will drive up from DC and pick it up from you to go to the game. email is, I think there are plenty of people who would be able to use a ticket…don’t let it go to waste.

  113. Baseball Fan

    October 28, 2008 at 10:08 pm

    Think of it this way, Phillies get a good lead 2+ runs or so on the Rays it should be all hands on deck (P’s) to close it out. With only 3 innings and 9 outs that is more than possible. This series would be far from over with two very good Rays pitchers starting in games 6 and 7 if it gets that far. This is the game they need to sieze and end the season. And they get 3 more outs than the Rays, with the heart of the Rays lineup already done in the top 6th, with decent pitching you can likely not see that part of the lineup again until 9th.

  114. mminfla

    October 28, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    This is to 98 Rays your an ass you know you wouldnt come to philly and say this. The game should have been called by rule it should be over but the MLB feels sorry for your dumb asses in Tampa so they let the game go until they tied it. You didnt see Maddon saying oh this is to bad to play only when they tied it then he says something he’s a little girl. Its just prolonging your agony hahaha

  115. 98Rays

    October 29, 2008 at 10:44 am

    mminfla: It could have been 12 to 2 and they wouldn’t have called the game, it’s the World Series you dope. As bad the groundskeepers in Philly blew this, MLB would never call a winner without finishing the game. Why dont you go out and assult someone after you lose tonight.


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