Giles Released; Mayberry, Carrasco Optioned – Phillies Nation

Giles Released; Mayberry, Carrasco Optioned

Big update this morning, as Todd Zolecki reports Marcus Giles has been released and John Mayberry Jr. and Carlos Carrasco were optioned to minor-league camp. Meanwhile, Jason Ellison, Pablo Ozuna and Mike Koplove have been told they won’t make the 25-man roster, but will accompany the Phillies for the on-deck series at Citizens Bank Park.

The only hitter, then, remaining is Miguel Cairo. Pitchers not completely penciled onto the 25-man roster include JA Happ, Chan Ho Park, Bobby Mosebach, Jack Taschner and Gary Majewski.



  1. CT

    March 30, 2009 at 9:44 am

    probably the best thing for Mayberry, getting regular at-bats and developing further in AAA. i could see him getting called up later this year or getting a roster spot in 2010.

    one thing i don’t get is why they’re keeping mosebach around. looking at his ST stats, he has a 9.39 ERA in 7.2 IP. not impressive enough to keep around this long in my opinion, unless i’m missing something.

  2. Tim Malcolm

    March 30, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Mosebach is Rule V. You want to hold onto him as long as possible because of the nature of the Rule V pick. He has a plus-plus fastball, so they’re maybe hoping Anaheim decides to pass on taking him back (looking at his ERA). Then the Phils can reclaim him and stash him in Allentown.

  3. Tim Malcolm

    March 30, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Here’s your current roster, per what just happened. (I’m going to write in Happ, too, since most believe he will make the 25-man.):

    C: Ruiz / Coste
    IF: Howard / Utley / Feliz / Rollins / Dobbs / Bruntlett
    OF: Ibanez / Victorino / Werth / Stairs / Jenkins
    SP: Hamels / Myers / Moyer / Blanton / Happ / Park
    RP: Condrey / Durbin / Eyre / Madson / Lidge

    One spot left. Either for a hitter (Cairo) or a pitcher (Taschner, Majewski, Mosebach). OR the Phils trade Stairs or Jenkins, making room for Cairo AND a pitcher.

  4. CT

    March 30, 2009 at 9:53 am

    thanks for clearing that up Tim

  5. Don M

    March 30, 2009 at 10:08 am

    I think Stairs has to go.. even if you get nothing for him.. open the spot for Cairo, and then make sure you have 6 guys in the bullpen

  6. Manny

    March 30, 2009 at 10:13 am

    Other possibility:

    If Park is our No.5, put Taschner in the pen and send Happ to start in AAA… and give the final spot to Cairo.

  7. Justin

    March 30, 2009 at 10:21 am

    I agree that with Happ having the option to be sent down, at least start park in the rotation and see how he does, if he doesn’t do enough to warrant the spot put him back in the pen, bring up Happ, i hate to say it but Park at least deserves a shot at a starting job i think he’s outpitched Happ for the shot to start the season. But i’d rather see the Phils trade Jenkins than Stairs, yes Stairs is easier to move but seriously after the HR he hit against Broxton in the NLCS, if your trailing in a game and you need a big hit who would you rather send to the plate? Stairs or Jenkins? provided you’ve already burned Dobbs. I choose Stairs. I agree with Tim that you hold Mosebach as long as possible hoping Anaheim has no place for him and we can reclaim him, or make a deal to keep him, could be the reason he’s still around that they’re trying to work a deal out to keep him in camp.

  8. Manny

    March 30, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Interesting fact about Taschner, according to

    “Left-handers hit just .187 against him through Aug. 10 last season, but hit an incredible .517 against him the remainder of the season.”

    He CAN be good for a while… so I think it’s worthwhile giving him a shot to start the season and hope for a good run. If he’s sucking my mid-late-April, then: seeya pal (ala Geoff).

  9. Don M

    March 30, 2009 at 10:32 am

    I’d rather have Jenkins than Stairs… Stairs is a great option if you want to try for a HR.. but if you are just looking for a HIT, with a possible HR, Jenkins can do that, and he plays much better defense… so you can actually use Jenkins for more than 1 at-bat

    What are their Numbers.. I think Happ’s last outing wasn’t great, but he had a rough 1st inning, then retired 13 of 14 at one point..

    Park was resting a hamstring last I remember

    I’m guessing they each have one (maybe two) starts in the minors before the decision must be made. I think that Happ getting sent to the minors would KILL HIS CONFIDENCE.. he’s definitely proven he can pitch at this level..

  10. Don M

    March 30, 2009 at 10:39 am

    2009 Spring Training:

    Happ – “Happ allowed six hits, five runs and two walks and struck out four in 5 1/3 innings Saturday morning in a Minor League Spring Training game against the Blue Jays at Englebert Complex. He allowed three runs in the first inning, but adjusted to retire 13 of 14 batters at one point. He allowed two more runs in the sixth, but those runs scored after he left the game and a two-out hit dropped in left field with help from the wind. ”

    Happ is 0-0 with a 3.15 ERA in 20 Grapefruit League innings.

    Park is 1-0 with a 2.87 ERA in 15 2/3 innings.

  11. CT

    March 30, 2009 at 10:43 am

    i think after Park’s start today, we can do a final compare/contrast

  12. Tim Malcolm

    March 30, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Even more important, Happ has 14 K, 6 BB. Park has 18 K, 1 BB.

    The numbers say Park. The understated logic says Happ.

  13. Jamie

    March 30, 2009 at 10:48 am

    I don’t like the idea of sending Happ down. That just wastes another option on him.

  14. Manny

    March 30, 2009 at 11:09 am

    I’m really concerned about having just one lefty in the pen. Just because we got away with it last season doesn’t mean we will this time. Eyre is great but he’s different than JC Romero. Romero is more of a setup guy and Eyre is more of a loogy.

    On the other hand, think about our rotation with 3 leftys (Hamels, Moyer, Happ)… teams will adjust their lineups accordingly and put in a bunch of righties… so it wouldn’t really matter having a right-handed-heavy pen to face those righties in the latter innings of a game.

    …So I’m back to ground zero.

  15. Chuck P

    March 30, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Just curious, what is the understated logic?

  16. Geoff

    March 30, 2009 at 11:16 am

    Stairs has to go…he doesnt do us any good in the NL for what he can do at this point of his career. Keep Jenkins & Cairo for now. If you can trade Jenkins then you bring up Mayberry. Happ stays, Park stays but gets the nod to start off as the 5th man. Happ not good out of the pen, but if its between optioning him to AAA temporarily or trading him then for now you stash him until he becomes needed.

    Knowing now that he has one option year left that gives you more leeway…Majewski makes the squad and then I guess Happ would have to go to AAA if youre keeping Taschner on the team as the second left-hander out of the pen.

  17. Geoff

    March 30, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Happ is 26 now…if you cant fit him into your everyday roster by age 27 (when hed be out of options) then you should trade him…Use the option…you have to if you want to preserve your starting pitchign depth this season.

  18. Geoff

    March 30, 2009 at 11:20 am

    right now you haev to start with park. he only has ONE walk.,..and Happ walks too many batters to begin with.

  19. Justin

    March 30, 2009 at 11:24 am


  20. NC Jason

    March 30, 2009 at 11:55 am

    How great is it that we can even have this conversation about a 5th starter?!?! Either way Happ or Park would fit nicely and I think both can preform.

  21. william

    March 30, 2009 at 11:58 am

    trade happ?? which guy do you want on your staff for the next 2-3 years park or happ? stairs has got to go happ # 5 park and taschner in the pen and cairo on the bench

  22. Don M

    March 30, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Park has:

    More K’s in fewer Innings Pitched.

    A better WHIP 0.96, to Happ’s 1.20

    A better OpponentBattingAvg. .254, to Happ’s .305

    Opponents are SLUG% .362 vs. Park… .440 vs. Happ

    Park is more of a GroundBall pitcher, at almost 1.5-to-1 … Happ is almost 1-to-1

    ***before I looked at that stuff, I was actually looking for reasons to say that Happ should be the #5, and Park should be in the pen. But the numbers clearly show Park deserves the #5 (TO THIS POINT IN SPRING TRAINING*).. Let’s see how this final week shakes out.

  23. Mazinman

    March 30, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    I agree that Park has to start. He came to the team with the understanding that he would get the chance to start. Well he came through with his part of the bargain, outpitching his competition, now the Phillies need to do whats right and reward him. I kinda hate to see Happ go back down too but Park did outpitch him.

    As for Jenkins and Stairs, Jenkins is not going to be traded with the amount that he makes. I would hate to see Stairs go after what he did for us next year but Cairo has been out hitting him. Thats a real tough decision, would not want to be in Manuel’s shoes for that one.

  24. NJ

    March 30, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Right now with Taschner in the fold I think Happ’s caught up in the numbers game, Park’s done nothing but impress since joining the team and deserves a shot. Disappointed with Giles, hope Ozuna stays with the AAA teaand sending down Mayberry was a good move, rather than an occasional AB he can go and tear up the international league.

  25. JeffR

    March 30, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I agree with the consensus on Jenkins over Stairs, but not because I like Jenkins-he is impossible to move without eating $6 mil and he is better in the field. You can always pick up a pinch hitting specialist after the trade deadline. Why is Condrey such a lock to make the team? Is he really better than Majewski stright up?

  26. Geoff

    March 30, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    I agree about Condrey, I dunno why they love that guy….if it came down to him and taschner or majewski id take both over him…he shouldnt be on the team

  27. Manny

    March 30, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Sorry to break it to you guys, but Condrey has been better than Majewski this spring…

  28. ryan

    March 30, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Mayberry and Carrasco will both play in the bigs this year. Mayberry before Carlos. Mayberry could definitely be a major bench contributor by the middle of the year. he’s so big and fast and athletic there is no way you can keep him off the team. atleast as a defensive replacement and pinch runner and an extra righty off the bench.

  29. The Dipsy

    March 30, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    Having TWO lefthanded, one dimensional, corner outfielder pinchhitters when you have an all lefthanded lineup to begin with is stoo-pid. Stairs has got to go because Jenkins can’t. Just give us the right handed version of Matt Stairs, whoever that is.

    The Dipsy

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