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Cold Offense Can’t Secure Sweep

OlsenThe Phillies ran into the buzzsaw known as Scott Olsen, losing to the Nationals, 4-1.

Olsen struck out six in 5.2 innings, scattering just six hits. He induced ground outs and escaped jams, including a bases-loaded opportunity for the Phillies that yielded nothing. The Phils only run came from a first-inning home run by Shane Victorino.

Brett Myers couldn’t hold the Nationals as well. He went six innings, giving up two runs on five hits while walking five. One of those walks brought in a run. Myers didn’t allow a home run for the first time this season, however.

The Nationals scored twice off Jack Taschner, who seemed to luck his way into outs more than actually record them.

The Phillies end April with an 11-9 record, and will begin May with a three-game series against the Mets.

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  1. CT

    April 29, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    i think it’s time to get rid of taschner and cairo (and possibly coste when ruiz comes back), and bring up majewski and possibly koplove. at least until romero gets back.

  2. Al in Seattle

    April 29, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Cairo sucked in Seattle when Sexson hit the road. That was a headscratcher as to why Amaro brought him in… As for Taschner, it is time to move him. Bring up Gary Majewski perhaps?

  3. jacob

    April 29, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    I don’t think we should view the current state of the Phils as a drastic disappointment. The bullpen really isn’t the problem. However, the starting pitching, maybe the game calling by the catchers, the coaches, the pitchers… this aspect of their game has been woeful. Myers pitches around Zimmerman with the bases loaded and walks him with Adam Dunn on deck? There were 2 outs. Make Zim beat you while you have the lead, however marginal it is that early in the game. I thought Myers relished the relief pitching. That should have been the exact type of situation he thrives on. Loaded, two outs, a decent hitter and a real threat on deck. He showed no cojones there. Our ERA is abysmal, but thank christ everybody but Jroll is hitting. Still, we had a winning April. We swept Florida, which I think will be a big boost going into the series with the Mets.

  4. Keith

    April 29, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    replace Cairo.

  5. Keith

    April 29, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    what does everyone think about replacing Cairo with either Jim Edmonds, Frank Thomas, or Luiz Gonzalez?

  6. philsphan

    April 29, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Taschner isn’t that bad, he’s just a AAAA fringe player. I wouldn’t mind bringing up one of Koplove/Majewski/Walker to take his place.

    Cairo on the other hand should be gone immediately. He adds nothing to the team and is a waste of a roster spot.

  7. NJ

    April 29, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Was a bad game, we’ve had enough good the last few days to not gripe and take this one on the chin.

    Cairo’s on the roster for a reason guys… The Phils want more than just a right handed bat on the bench otherwise you would have seen a guy like Thomas here. As for Taschner it’s a good strategy, ride him early and keep the core of the pen as fresh as is possible. The game was looking like a loss when Taschner entered and as ugly as it was the game was in reach for the bats which is all you can really ask. Would like to see Eyre get some more work under his belt, he had’t logged much time on the mound before the bad outting and we know the guys ineffective when he’s not getting his innings.

  8. christopher

    April 29, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    i wasn’t too worried about the sweep, i’d be much happier to see them take 3 consecutive series and win at least 2 against the mets this weekend. especially saturday so i can be there for a milestone for my favorite phil! but yeah, just keep the forward momentum rolling.

  9. Manny

    April 29, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    Taschner is fine in the pen for now…. I agree with NJ, give Eyre more playing time

  10. Mike59

    April 29, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    What about Ray Durham to replace Cairo? Doesn’t he do the same kind of things Cairo does, only better? I’m not opposed to replacing Taschner, either. Maybe give Koplove/Majewski a shot.

  11. Keith

    April 29, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    Yes, get Durham. get Thomas, get someone, anybody! 😉

    I’m excited for this series against the Mets 😀

  12. Bruce

    April 29, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    Jacob, you really don’t think Myers “pitches around Zimmerman with the BASES LOADED”, do you? Careful yes, but he was not purposely avoiding him with an unintentional walk. Barry Bonds have gotten that kind of respect with baseloaded walks but Zimmerman would never be in the same class as him.
    However, keep in mind, Zimmerman has a hot bat and with a hit tonite (a double) his hitting streak is now at 18 games, the longest in the Majors. His BA is now at .291. So it’s understandable that Myers approach Zimmerman with the idea of not making a mistake pitch and maybe being too fine with his pitches.

    However, it’s must be noted that Myers gave the bullpen some rest with a quality start and lowered his ERA to 4.83, the lowest among Phillies starters.

    Unfortunately, the Phillies went to the well once too often in seeking runs for another “comeback”. As Charlie Manuel said..”Scoring late is not a bad way to play if you score enough,…but you don’t want to play like that every night.”

  13. jacob

    April 30, 2009 at 12:23 am

    Bruce, I’m saying he pitched around Zimmerman when he shouldn’t have. Dunn was on deck, you nancy around Zim with a threat like Dunn on deck? Ludicrous. You know you are going to have to pitch carefully to Dunn, you have a better chance to induce Ryan into a ground ball throwing down in the zone, but Myers was trying to paint the corners out and in belt high when he wasn’t dropping breaking balls my myopic grandmother could see were out of the zone.

    His streak is more of a product of the man hitting in front of him and the one behind him than his natural prowess as a hitter. Yes, he hit well his rookie year. He is not a franchise player anywhere else in the majors other than Washington. I live here, have seen the kid play a lot. He’s not that good.

  14. chitown phillyfan

    April 30, 2009 at 1:15 am

    A winning record in April for the second straight year. Not too shabby considering the issues thus far.

  15. Ryk

    April 30, 2009 at 1:40 am

    I agree, Chitown. With all the problems the pitching staff has run into this season, I’m completely happy with an 11-9 April.

  16. NJ

    April 30, 2009 at 5:16 am

    Think too much respect is being given to Adam Dunn and Zimmerman. The numbers tell quite a different story about their abilities and Dunn has already fallen from grace.

  17. Tim Malcolm

    April 30, 2009 at 7:36 am

    Fallen from grace? He leads the league in OPS.

  18. Jeff of NoVa.

    April 30, 2009 at 8:14 am

    Yeah I agree with Tim, Dunn is a stud. He has actually striking out less this year.

    My 2 cents are this:
    Lose Cairo,
    Coste to AAA when Ruiz is back. Bring up Mayberry or sign someone with a bat, right handed bat!

    The bullpen is fine when Romero comes back we lose Taschner.

    The other thing is I think we need some youthful injection in the starting rotation, meaning Park to the bullpen(unless he blows our doors off with his next start), and Haap to the rotation.

    Anyway there are some simple solutions

  19. Brian of CO

    April 30, 2009 at 8:22 am

    Bad offensive day with a good pitching day, go figure. Myers put together a quality start that should have been enough for our offense to win, but they had an off day. The good news from this all is the pitching appears to be settling in, hopefully the Offense AND Pitching will come together on the same games. And really, the Mets loss, while it sucks that it puts us 1.5 games back behind the Marlins, its hard to say its a bad day whenever the Mets lose. Besides that 1.5 games will come back our way when we play the Marlins again.

  20. Don M

    April 30, 2009 at 9:29 am

    Something I noticed..

    While Coste is an “nice” defensive catcher.. and his passed-ball rate was one of the best in the league per innings-caught or something..

    Twice last night, he failed to CATCH the ball.. he was only charged with one Passed Ball.. but I guess if you don’t catch it, but it doesn’t reach the backstop it doesn’t count? Or if runners don’t advance?

    THAT is what we miss about Ruiz.. he sells-out his body more to block balls in the dirt..

    ALSO.. What the hell is with this anti-Cairo movement? He played well enough to earn a job in spring training.. a pinch-hitter role is one of the toughest in all of baseball (…Greg Dobbs this year).. He’s not costing us any games, and there aren’t a lot of better options. It would be a waste to have Mayberry Jr. sitting on the bench instead of playing in AAA.. and an aditional pitcher might be good to have, but its not a NEED at this point

  21. Manny

    April 30, 2009 at 9:43 am

    An additional pitcher is not a NEED at this point, Don?


    Happ pitching in the 9th inning doesn’t tell you anything? Putting Taschner out there way more than we should doesn’t show that we need help?

  22. mikemike

    April 30, 2009 at 10:10 am

    Cairo isn’t losing us any games, but he isn’t helping us either. Mayberry isn’t a kid anymore, what you see is what you get a big guy who can pop one out for you never will be a star, has nothing more to prove in minors. Can play the outfield and is a outfielder. In clutch situation who would you like to see bat him or cairo or burtlett. This club moves to me for right now are bring in Mayberry to pitch hit and play someoutfield, and release Taschner and bring in Majewski or Koplove. And I guess spring training numbers mean a lot to you , half the time pitcher are working on things and could care less about hits given up, they are trying to get into shape without getting hurt. As far as coste, its time to see if marson can play.

  23. mikemike

    April 30, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Manny I can’t see keeping someone as bad as Taschner just because he is lefthanded. I have read a lot about Majewski and it seems if this guy is healthy.{that’s a big if} he can fill a spot in the bullpen that right now is a big weaknest . In my fifty years I have seen the Ron Stones ,who have great springs and can’t play once it is for real.

  24. Don M

    April 30, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Lidge is sidelined… for right now. if he goes on the DL you bring in a pitcher..

    If you want to replace Taschner, you bring in a pitcher..

    but you don’t shorten your bench to bring in a pitcher right now… Lidge was unavailable.. and Im assuming that Madson was just unavailable for last night, along with Durbin..

    that isn’t often the case..

    If we have Lidge, Madson, Eyre, Durbin, Condrey, Tashner, Happ… do we realyl need to shorten the bench for another bullpen arm? We do play in the National League where you are 1000x more likely to run out of bats

  25. Don M

    April 30, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Taschner has done well against LH, but RH are hitting him pretty well

    WALKS seem to be what hurts him most..

    I’d be fine with replacing him for Koplove, or Majewski.. but not getting rid of a bench bat to add an extra arm (UNLESS Lidge isn’t going on the DL, but isn’t ready to pitch..)

    Mayberry might be a better option, but I want to know how ANY can be expected to produce when they hardly ever get to play.. he’s got 7 at-bats this year.. and they’re pretty spread-out.. its amazing to me how much time people spend complaing about the 25th Man each year… Taguchi.. Cairo… they are there JUST IN CASE.. the backup Catcher never gets used because they might actually need to Catch..

    So a bench of Bruntlett, Stairs, Dobbs, Catcher.. but carrying 8 pitchers in the pen isn’t a smart move

  26. mikemike

    April 30, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    I believe Mayberry is a bench type player and the point is he is as good as he will be in the minors, lets see if he can be a dobbs or close to that type, rather have him in a situation were will need the long ball than Cairo and Brunlett, If you said he was a work in progress would agree to leave him in the minors, and look for another option, but at his age and time in the minors, he right now is a org. filler at best.

  27. Don M

    April 30, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    He’s 25 years old.. and played in college, so only recently has he been a Full-Time baseball player.. he’s gotten moved up at every level, and has yet to have a Full-Season at any one level… I think they want to see what he can do playing everyday at AAA, find out what his ceiling might be

    If they didn’t think he’d improve over what he is now.. he would be on our bench instead of Cairo. But I believe that they think having him play everyday is the best way for him to become a better baseball player.. maybe ready to be a part-time guy in a year or two at the Major League level

  28. NJ

    April 30, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Wow thats mailing it in on Mayberry… He wouldn’t improve the roster right now but has the potential to be a big impact in a year to 18 months time. How many prospects have teams like the Pirates and Giants ruined because they bring them up underdeveloped or as bench warmers with no defined role…

    It sends the wrong message into the clubhouse to load up on power bats on the bench and if your relying on those pinch-hitting extra bases then somethings very wrong.

    Think of it this way, the Phils have had a pretty aweful April and have come out in a pretty decent position. The starting pitchings coming around and it wasn’t a terrible performance from Myers last night, the team ERA might be high but the pen looks pretty stable and we know we have two plus veteran decent options in AAA and a top tier reliever on a short-season in Romero. Some of the bats are having issues but several have turned in good to excellent starts. The defense is stable outside of the uncertain catching situation and the bench is fine (assuming Dobbs comes around) considering Stairs has provided a genuine extra base threat. We’re not going to win the NL East in April so frankly I feel more secure knowing Bruntlett and Cairo can provide passable everyday stopgaps when they might be needed rather than one dimensional bats who aren’t used to seeing a half dozen ABs a week never having to have a get up and swing philosophy.

  29. Bruce

    April 30, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Miguel Cairo is on the roster for a reason. The 34 yr old (will be 35 Monday) veteran knows his role as one who can fill in capably as a fielder in all infield positions AND the outfield. A lifetime .265 hitter as well. It’s not fair to evaluate a player with only seven at bats and little playing time. Eventually, there comes a time in certain game situations, whether it’s injuries to other players or rest is needed for them, he steps in as the necessary relief or substitute. That is the responsibility of the 25th man on the roster.

  30. mikemike

    April 30, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    I am not evaluate. My point is mayberry has right handed power potential. and we could use that, I still think he will be a 250 to 260 hitter with some power, he is that right now and don’t believe the minors will help him at this stage. Texas traded there disappointing first round choice for ours. And the men to watch in the outfiled are Taylor and Brown, Taylor has learned to get away from the stanford swing, and is really moving along.

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