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Phillies Finish Grapefruit League Play Vs. Nationals

The Phillies close Grapefruit League play today when they host the Nationals. Game time is 1:05.

Your lineup, courtesy David Murphy: Victorino (CF) / Utley (2B) / Werth (RF) / Howard (1B) / Ibanez (LF) / Feliz (3B) / Bruntlett (SS) / Ruiz (C) / Moyer (SP). Jack Taschner is also expected to pitch.

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  1. Fuhs

    April 2, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    Another big bomb by Howard

  2. Fuhs

    April 2, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Pedro also send one out, 3-2 Phils bottom 2nd

  3. Fuhs

    April 2, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    Big day for Feliz. Add a 2 run double

  4. Justin

    April 2, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    I must say Howard and Ibanez for the amount of time they’ve been playing in Spring Training, virtually every game they’ve been able to maintain that .300 average. Bruntlett playing in probably the most games of everyone has really done a great job, I know it’s been said a few times. I just hope they’re able to maintain and don’t hit a slump come April 9.

  5. Brian Michael

    April 2, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    Yikes, this game got out of hand quickly.

    Not over yet though…

  6. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    April 9th is consistently one of the greatest days of the year… every year since 1983!

  7. John Fire

    April 2, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Moyer has given up nine runs in four innings… looks like we might be slotting Happ into the rotation sooner than we thought…

  8. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    4.0 IP, 11 Hits, 9 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO, 3 HR, … uhmm maybe he was just working on a certain pitch, that he won’t be using in the regular season?

  9. Justin

    April 2, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Or it could be a case of the umpire not giving moyer the calls he needs to be effective, some umps refuse to be limber on the outer half of the plate which works against moyer which is why on a occassion he throws a dud. But his spring numbers are worrying me about what’s going on if it’s just that he’s working on some pitches or if this is the product of being seen enough to be less effective

  10. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Moyer is done as Ozuna pinch hitted for him. Jamie Moyer: 4IP, 11H, 9R(all earned), 2BB, 3K, 3HR. His record currently in spt is 1-2 and might go to 1-3. His final spring training era is 8.27. This is why I think the phils should’ve given him a 1 year deal and go year by year because he could retire any moment. As soon as moyer goes out Happ, Carrasco, Kendrick all battle for that spot.

  11. KevO

    April 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    I said this yesterday how i believe Happ will take Moyers spot in the rotation sometime this year and i was all of sudden shot down by someone. the 46 year old is getting blasted this spring, never understood why they even brought him back, when they could of gotten derek lowe?

    We shall see

  12. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    Utley gets replaced by ozuna. Utley 0for2, 2runs, HBP and reached on error. Also had a part in the phils turning a dp. Condrey pitched in 5th

  13. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    This start is awful for Moyer’s confidence because his next start counts because it’s on Tuesday at home vs Braves. 7:05pm start moyer vs jair jurrigens. Monday is day off so second game of the new season and moyers confidence is down. Hopefully with his experience he can bury this game and give a solid start on Tuesday.

  14. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Derek Lowe signed for like $15 M a season I think… which might be ok this year, but not after that

  15. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Oh by the way folks. In final spt game for mets they are hosting adam eaton and the orioles. Bottom 4th, Orioles lead 8-0. Adam Eaton so far: 3IP, 3H, 0r, 2BB, 0K. But just to tell he has a 5.68era in spt so far. Pelfrey startin for mets in that one. Today everyone is starting a bunch of starters like mets who have delgado, beltran, church, reyes out. phillies are also starting most starters except notable one rollins.

  16. william

    April 2, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    only bad move the fo made resigning moyer he will not make it thru may and it end up being another contract philly has to eat to release him. hate to see him go out this way he should have taken the ring and called it a career

  17. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    Dunn and Belliard replaced by Nick Johnson and Willie Harris. Through 5 innings for Nats, 9runs on 12hits 1 error commited and 4LOB. Through 5 innings for Phils, 5runs on 8hits 0 errors commited and 5LOB. Pedro Feliz has been awsome today. 3for3, 3RBI(2nd,3rd and 4th of spt), 1RUN, 2doubles(2nd and 3rd of Spt), 1homer(1st of spring). he’s raised his spt avg to .262. Bruntlett hit a deep fly out.

  18. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    condrey gets nats 1-2-3 in 6th. DP turned by ozuna and coste. jason donald in for bruntlett at ss, dobbs in for werth playin lf, stairs in for howard playing rf, coste in for ibanez playin first. elijah dukes in for kearns playin rf for nats. does spring training ever go so fast. phils are gonna carry donald, catcher paul hoover, pitcher bowker, pitcher mike koplove, CF jason ellison and another player i forget for the 2 ondeck games vs the rays and then send em down.

  19. Brian Michael

    April 2, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    OUTTA HERE!!!!

  20. Fuhs

    April 2, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Matt Stairs does what we pay Matt Stairs to do 3 run moon shot

  21. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    cole hamels is on the sports illustrated for kids cover this time which previews the upcoming mlb season. On the cover it says” world series mvp COLE HAMELS lead or had(small writing on online article) the phillies on target last season. Now they’re the team to beat.

  22. John Fire

    April 2, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    “This start is awful for Moyer’s confidence because his next start counts because it’s on Tuesday at home vs Braves.”

    I tend to disagree with that statement. To be sure, Moyer has had an AWFUL spring. But he’s not the type to hang onto these miserable performances for long. He gets knocked around every now and then, but often follows a crappy performance with a line like this: 6ip / 8h / 2 er / 1 bb / 3 k.

  23. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Jamie Moyer will finish 1-2 with an 8.27era in Spring Training Games. Also Adam Eaton’s shutout of the mets is over. Balt lead 8-0 now 8-4. For Eaton today against a major chunk of mets startin lineup so far: 4IP, 4R(all earned), 8h, 2BB, 1K, 1 wild pitch and his era is now 7.20. Eaton just to tell will be a starter on the rotation cause orioles don’t got depth. Every starter for phils is out except feliz who has played exceptionally well today. Condrey goes 2IP, 1H, 1BB and 1K and his final SPT era is 1.46. Nice spt for him.

  24. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    yah i agree with ya john fire. that’s why i said because he’s a veteran he knows how to bounce back.

  25. Justin

    April 2, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Hey derrick the lone spot that’s going to be available as of now is the one currently occupied by Chan Ho Park, unless they resign him depending on his season. Second if they feel that Moyer can’t pitch as a starter anymore they won’t release him, they’ll move him to the pen because of his ability and durability to pitch in any situation because of how crafty he is. He may be bumped from the rotation at some point if this awful pitching keeps up but i think the phils have eaten enough money this season. Then next spring there could possibly be 2 openings for Happ, Kendrick and Carrasco and maybe even Carpenter if he outpitches Kendrick this season. But waiting in the wings could be Savery/Drabek/Drew Naylor pending their development.

  26. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Nats take back the lead 10-9. Phils pitching today:
    Moyer today- 9runs in 4IP
    Condrey today- 0runs in 2IP
    Durbin today- 1run in 1IP so far

  27. Tyler

    April 2, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    moyer scares me in this outing… hopefully hes experimenting with something… but, i posted this in another post that i think moyer will be replaced this year by happ. I like moyer but its gonna happen sometime.

  28. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    …. And this is why Happ MUST be part of the roster. I’m not feeling too great about Moyer… 9 ER (3 HRs) in only 4 innings… damn!

  29. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Man what did Pedro Feliz eat today. He came in with 0HR, 1RBI, 0 doubles while battin .205. 4for4 today, 2runs scored, 3rbi’s, 1homerun and 3 doubles. His BA is now .279. Jack Taschner pitches for second straight game. Yesterday went 1IP allowing a single. Durbin goes 1IP, 2H, 1ER, 1K and his final spt era is 4:05 but he’s been better than the era shows.

  30. Chuck P

    April 2, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    It’s spring… Moyer’s confidence will be fine. This is a guy that drives home to pick up his kids from school after spring training games. The focus in spring training for Jamie Moyer is getting in shape and throwing pitches not ERA. He’s a guy that lives off of scouting reports and pitch repertoire. I’m sure that he has been working on some of his weaker pitches. He’ll be fine.

  31. Derrick Cross

    April 2, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    well thats for me. see ya tom. 7:05pm Phillies Rays On Deck Series Cole Hamels Pitching Citizens Bank Park Go Phillies

  32. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Great, just what we need… now Taschner gives up back-to-back homeruns.. Phils losing 12-10….

  33. John Fire

    April 2, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Taschner’s not going to make this club. Gave up two dingers in his inning of work… welcome to the roster, Majewski. Make us proud!

  34. John Fire

    April 2, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Taschner’s line: 1ip / 2h (2hr) / 2er / 2bb / 1k. See ya.

  35. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Seriously, at this point, we gotta go with our best pitchers… and Majewski > Taschner…. I don’t care if one’s a righty and the other’s a lefty… In any scenario, I wouldn’t want to see either pitching in the 7th, 8th or 9th innings.Guys like Eyre and Madson and, yes, Condrey, will have to cover for JC for these 50 games.

  36. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Now Majewski is up.. I hope he doesn’t make me eat my words.

  37. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Coste is having a shit*y spring… Will we see Marson sooner than we think?

  38. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    I think we will see Marson sooner, because they figured out that Paulino isnt really that good (or at least he didnt show anything to indicate that) and if Coste struggles you could see Marson up by midseason.

    As for Moyer…boy he sure is givng us all a VERY big scare here. He has been absolutely horrible in ST this year. Just flat out dog dirt terrible. I think hes going to be on a shorter leash than he was last year. They gave him until May last year to turn it around after his bad start and he did turn himself around. This year, I think hes on a short leash. If he has 3,4 starts like this right off the bat hes gotta be replaced.

    jA Happ should be hanging around on the MLB roster so it seems so hell be there lingering around waiting for Moyer to tank – and I think he will be the first to go. Guys, this was a bad signing. That doesnt mean Derek Lowe was a good signing though, because in a year or two that will be a bad contract. I just dont see how you can justify giving a 46 year old man not names Nolan Ryan that type of contract….regardless of this performance the season before.

  39. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    I think the replacement callup order will be as follows:

    1: Moyer goes first by Mid-May (disabled list, bullpen, retirement, whatever) and Happ slides into the rotation.

    2: Park pitches well to start the season but ends up not being able to give enough innings per start to warrant staying as a starter. By June he is replaced by Carrasco in the starting rotation, but stays on to be a very good reliever for this team.

    3: Coste flames out by mid-June early July and is DFA or sent down and replaced by Lou Marson.

  40. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Why would they bring Marson up to play twice a week?

  41. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    Because they traded away Ronny Paulino and they dotn have anyone else…I mean I guess they could pick up a scrap heap guy to do that Coste was supposed to be doing if indeed Coste doesnt produce to the elvel youd expect of a backup.

  42. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    I DEFINITELY think Moyer will be this years Matt Morris. Just a guy that should have retired but didnt and the only way he realizes it is to get smoked hard every single time out there. Im sorry, he had a wonderful season last year, but I dont see him being an effective or viable option this season. I hope Happ can come in and do a nice job for Moyer once they realize that Moyers done.

  43. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Don: Because we want to build a “D”, starting now. The team’s future is now and we gotta go after it. If by mid-June, Marson is better than Coste, then bring him up, even if he’s gonna be back up catcher. You gotta start somewhere… make him learn stuff from Chooch…

  44. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    If Marson isn’t playing everyday, you hurt his development.. you don’t rush up your top prospects into bench roles because they are better than other backups..

    If that was the case, Donald would be riding the pine instead of Bruntlett and Cairo, etc..

    Its not a smart move.. if Ruiz is struggling, and Coste is hurt or something than maybe… but Marson needs to be playing AT LEAST half of the time, and as a backup catcher that doesn’t happen

  45. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    Well then you get a scrap heap guy…I just think that Marson does better by playing in the major leagues 2/5 days than he does in AAA. But I also think you should give him until June or so to show that he can hit AAA pitching.

  46. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    How will half a season as a backup catcher hurt him, seriously? He could get a call up midseason and some type of platoon with Chooch in June/July games… If anything, he should benefit from being in the big leagues and get to know our pitchers really well for the 2010 season. AND, my main point, he’d bring his bat which will help the team THIS season as we look for another WFC-ship.

  47. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    Agree, Geoff.

  48. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Right but if he hits AAA pitching playing everyday.. why stop his progress by decreasing his at-bats, and on the rare times he gets to the plate, the pitchers are that much better and have a distinct advantage against him..

    I’m all for bringing guys up when they’re ready.. but Marson’s not ready..

    And by the time he is.. it’s got to be a decision between Marson OR Ruiz… not Marson AND Ruiz..

  49. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    Manny I normally agree with you a lot, but I can’t on this one..

    TODAY.. even with his struggles, I’d still rather have Coste at the plate for a key at-bat instead of Marson.. maybe that changes during the season..

    But if Ruiz is hitting anywhere near .250.. he’s the starter because his defense is way better than Marson, and I don’t think it serves a prospect well to sit on the bench instead of playing everyday.. which is why Marson and Mayberry and Donald are in the minors

    Talent-wise they could probably be on an MLB roster.. but if you aren’t using them regularly you stunt their potential growth (Is it true that if you don’t use it, you lose it? … Is that a serious question?…. – 40 Year-Old-Virgin)

  50. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    If Marson shows he can hit, by that I mean he has to show you he can come up and play well in MLB when you bring him up – more specifically hit MLB pitching. If hes doing that by the time Coste flames out then its a pretty easy decsion to make…

  51. Geoff

    April 2, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    I think Donald does need a whole season in AAA, just because theres really nowhere else to put him where hell get good PT. Catchers are different – handling the staff (that sounds bad) is so crucial to a catcher’s viability in the major leagues. Plus, Marson catches Carrasco, so youll need him when you bring up Carrasco.

    Mayberry should be on the MLB roster as the 4th outfielder, getting the start 2-3 times a week but getting into almost every game as the primary RH pinch hitter when he doesnt start. You could also use him as a REGULAR defensive – 7th inning replacement for Ibanez if Ibanez makes too many blunders in the OF. Mayberry can play any outfield position which makes him valuable to this team right now. Like Happ – hes been through the minors every which way, and he has to adapt to a role that makes him valuable to the team but he is good enough to play in MLB. Happ has to adapt to the bullpen (though that might be shaky at times) in order to stay in MLB UNTIL Moyer or someone gets hurt or tanks.

  52. Don M

    April 2, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    I guess I maybe just don’t like that fact that you are always looking to replace everyone on the roster, Geoff. Every month you pick a new player or two that you are 100% SURE is going to flame-out.. we need to replace them, release them.. promote whoever, and trade for the other guy..

    Thankfully, you’ve been wrong most of the time, so I look for Coste to hit around .315 this year, and Moyer to win 14 Games.

  53. John Fire

    April 2, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    it’s funny how some people are predicting a Chan Ho Park flame out by mid-year despite how dominating he was this spring, how motivated and focused and how well he performed in limited starting duty last year. I almost think people want him to fail… I know we all want to see what Carrasco can do, but the kid needs some further development. He was visibly rattled often this spring (though he pitched lights out other times)… let him take some time to mature and then bring him aboard slowly. I think we’re all going to be pleasantly surprised by Mr. Park.

    Moyer on the other hand… yikes. Happ, you’d better start warming up. Your time to step up may be near.

  54. Woodman

    April 2, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Moyer will be fine, maybe not matching his 16 wins last year, but will be a solid 3/4 starter. Coste is a gamer and will show up when the bell rings. Not to worry.

  55. Bruce

    April 2, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    Geoff seems obsessed with Moyer and takes every opportunity to be critical of him even when not justified.

    Hey, Moyer has proven you wrong BIG time last season and I’m looking forward for him to do the same again this season. 😉

    Moyer, the crafty veteran who is the master of deception will continue to befuddle the hitters as he has done for so many years. And brings to mind another great pitcher of longevity from the past…Warren Spahn, who ended his 23 year career at age 44 with 363 wins once was quoted as saying… ” Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing.” Moyer would say AMEN!

  56. Manny

    April 2, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Don, I think we agree more on this Coste/Marson thing more than we disagree. The difference is that I just see Marson nearly ready for the MLB and not truly a “prospect” per se… One year ago, there was a consensus that he would be our Opening Day Starter in 2009 or get a mid-season callup.

    Today, though, I really like what Chooch has done and will continue to do, and he’s our No.1 catcher without a doubt. And, like you, I’d rather see today Coste getting a key-at-bat instead of Marson…. But IF Coste doesn’t improve his hitting and stays around a .215 average or below through late June, I’d rather see Marson getting the call up and staying with the big club even if he’s gonna be the backup catcher. I think the guy’s ready. We’ve been saying he is for a while now.

  57. Chuck P

    April 3, 2009 at 10:03 am

    You guys have all completely and collectively lost your minds… let’s take a deep breath and repeat after me… “It’s spring training.”

    Let’s put away our “Jump to Conclusions” mats and let the season play out. How many times have you seen a player OR a team have a terrible spring and perform great during the regular season? Need I remind you that the Detroit Lions were undefeated in preseason last year? There are always a few key battles going on that mean something but the rest of SPT is rather meaningless. We’re all glad to see Chase and Pete Happy back on the field… that means something. We’re upset that Hamels had a setback… that means something. Howard and Myers appear to be in better shape. Lidge was able to go on back to back days… that means something. Park vs. Happ = both winners… that means more than anything because we have depth. It’s ok to be concerned but I would stop short of making any predictions right now because nothing we have in the minors is good enough to make me believe that we need to change the formula for last year’s success (if we had a David Price down there, you could reasonably predict he would be up by the end of June because his demotion is a business move, not a baseball move).

    Ibanez makes too many blunders in the OF… really??? The guy hasn’t shown me anything that indicates he can’t finish a game. We haven’t played a meaningful game yet. He certainly looks better than Pat and with the way he has run the bases, I’m convinced that he’s going to go first to third FAR more than Pat did which means that our 6 and 7 hitters will have more opportunities for easy RBI’s… the book is still out on Amaro but Gillick, the team advisor, probably had something to do with that signing and I trust his judgment.

    The Phils look really good and they’re getting no love…. which is good. No egos, no overconfidence… the beginning of a ________. You betcha.

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