Bring the DH to the NL – Phillies Nation

Bring the DH to the NL

In Wednesday’s Philadelphia Daily News, columnist Bill Conlin brought up a great point about the designated hitter.  I realize this is probably a moot point, since it’s unlikely this will be voted on anytime soon. However, the case could be made for the NL to adopt this rule.

It’s time the NL and AL were on the same page, given that they are in the same league overall.  Seems rather ridiculous that we have gone on for 35 years with two separate rules, the only major sport in our country that does so.

The baseball purist in me dislikes it, yet it still makes sense to take the bat out of the pitchers hands, and it’s head scratching that the National League owners don’t agree.  Why put an extra burden on a multi-million dollar pitcher if you don’t have to?  Cliff Lee is an outstanding hitter, and probably loves getting up there to swing the stick on occasion.  But in a sport where contracts are growing, pitch counts are examined with a fine-toothed comb, and the slightest injury means a week on the shelf, the DH would be a preventative issue for teams trying to protect their product. Hell, J.A. Happ was injured during batting practice.  He wasn’t the same after that.

Imagine this:  With the DH in the NL, the Phillies would be able to supply a lineup that would blow away AL teams.  Insert Jim Thome, Jason Kubel, or Hideki Matsui into this order, and your nearly on your way to 1,000 runs.

Again, this is probably as likely as me becoming president, but it works on so many levels.  Who wants to start up the petition?



  1. Good Night Joe Carter

    November 12, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Absolutely not. The DH rule is a ridiculous one that takes the strategy out of the game. Pitchers need to be baseball players, and there should be no special place in baseball for guys who can hit but not field.

    Clearly, it created a decided advantage for the Yankees in their home games during this World Series, but it is something that the NL has overcome in the past and certainly will overcome again. The problem in beating the Yankees wasn’t just Matsui as a DH, but instead their win without regard to expense attitude that brought Sabathia, Burnett, and Texiera all over in one off-season. What MLB needs to eliminate the disparity isn’t the DH in the NL but instead a salary cap across the league.

  2. GT

    November 12, 2009 at 9:03 am

    How about the AL get rid of the DH…
    Who wants to start up that petition?

  3. mookey

    November 12, 2009 at 9:11 am

    get rid of DH

  4. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 9:27 am

    This article takes the wrong approach. The reality of the matter is that the DH has no place in baseball. It’s time to eliminate it from the AL.

    Also, the NL can cope with going against AL teams. That’s why I think getting Beltre and DeRosa would be such a great move. If you have DeRosa play regularly as a utility man to get our regular starters rest, then he’ll have enough game time to be effective in the playoffs.

    Also, keep in mind that you only have at most one more game scheduled in the World Series for the AL. If anything, it shows that the NL needs to pick things up in the All-Star Game.

  5. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 9:33 am

    It’s never going to leave the AL. Maybe it was a stupid rule in 1973, and yes it takes away from the purity of baseball, that much I agree on.

    However, since its not going anywhere, maybe the NL should adopt the rule. I love the strategy of the game as much as the next person. But much of the time it doesnt work like that. Most pitchers dont work hard enough on the craft of bunting a guy over and sacrificing. Let them focus on their pitching at this level and put the bat in the hands of an expert.

  6. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Hellllllllllllllllllll no.

    If anything, make the AL lose the DH. Every player on the field should be able to play defense and offense. Most DH guys are incomplete players too (see Stairs, Matsui)…

  7. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Pat: You’re basically suggesting “if you can’t beat them, join them.”


  8. Jim Lahey

    November 12, 2009 at 9:36 am

    I’ve been an avid reader of this blog for the past 2 years, but I’m seriously considering writing off this blog completely after this article. Disgusting. The DH is a joke.

  9. Stuart

    November 12, 2009 at 9:41 am

    The DH is the stupidest rule in baseball. If you want to play baseball, you should have to hit and pitch. Not just one or the other. Why should pithcers be treated differently. Why should they get royal treatment. DH should be taken out, if the NL took on the DH, not sure how much more baseball I could stand to watch.

  10. John Russo

    November 12, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Get rid of the DH. A baseball player can hit, throw, and field. Pitchers are baseball players so therefor they should hit. Stop babying them, tell them to grab a bat, and contribute to their own game.

  11. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 9:44 am

    Eliminate Myer’s walk against Sabathia, and the game loses so much excitement…

  12. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 9:47 am

    While we’re at it let’s have ghost runners on the bases too. That way no player can get hurt running the bases and catchers won’t be injured when there is risk of collision at the plate. Also, let’s just have zones that mark where outfielders make outs because we wouldn’t want a fielder to strain themselves or run into a wall.

    If anything, the whole point of baseball is purity. That’s why a batter can strikeout and still take first. That’s why you have to throw four balls instead of just telling the batter that you walked him. That’s why we still have umpires on the field.

  13. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Wow, I love the hatred toward the rule. If anything there is passion here.

    Jim, we hope you dont leave the blog because of one post. It’s an idea. Of course, its not going to happen. But if Bill Giles had voted yes 35 years ago, this wouldnt even be a thought.

  14. Brian Michael

    November 12, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Everyone always talks about the “purity of baseball” – what does that even mean? The game has evolved in so many ways since its origins that there really isn’t anything pure to grab on to. Night games, instant replay, 3 strikes equals an out, the pitcher’s goal of trying to retire a batter, free agency, revenue sharing…none of that existed in the 1860s. Is that all bad?

    I say stop calling yourselves a purist because there’s no such thing. It means something different to every person that evokes it. This isn’t a purity argument, it’s a practical one.

  15. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 10:10 am

    I don’t buy that Gilles was the issue. I think the article said it needed a two thirds majority. The final vote was 6-4-2. If it was 6-6, that would be an even 50-50 vote. If that’s the way it worked, it wouldn’t have passed anyway.

  16. Cameron M.

    November 12, 2009 at 10:17 am

    I think this is exactly what needs to happen. Pitchers aren’t being paid for their ability to hit. They are being paid for their ability to pitch six or more solid innings of baseball. At the MLB level, players need to focus on one aspect of the game in order to compete. Pitchers arms are taxed every time they pitch. It makes no sense to force that pitcher to use their arms once again to bat when they should be resting them. Odds are they will end up getting hurt. In which case, everyone loses.

  17. Georgie

    November 12, 2009 at 10:21 am

    My husband and I get into an argument about this every time we watch a game together. He is an O’s fan and a big proponent of the universal DH, I, on the other hand, would like to see it abolished. When I watch an AL game, towards the end I always catch myself trying to figure out when to take out the pitcher, send in a pinch hitter, and then I realize, oh yeah, they don’t have to think about that. For me personally, it takes away a very important and strategic part of the game. The only time I wish the NL had the DH is when Cliff Lee is out there standing on/running the bases, and I’m saying to myself, “PLEASE don’t let him get hurt”. Don’t like the DH, never will, but again, money has become a factor in that you don’t want to risk your starting pitchers’ getting hurt while batting.

  18. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Nick: You’re correct, but the vote would have passed because Pirates owner John Galbraith instructed his GM to vote how the Phils voted. Therefore, Giles voted against it when Ruly Carpenter, the Phillies owner, was on vacation. Giles wasnt sure which was to go, tried to get a hold of Carpenter, and it did not pass. So as the story goes, if Ruly Carpenter wasnt on a boat, the NL would have the DH anyway.

  19. John Russo

    November 12, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Cameron, you’re basically saying that a kicker in the NFL should just stand there and let the runner run by him so he doesn’t risk getting hurt? It’s a part of the game and the pitcher should be obligated to contribute in the box and not just the mound. Like I said, he can help himself by getting on base.

  20. John Russo

    November 12, 2009 at 10:24 am

    Cliff Lee had as many hits as Blanton and two less than Hamels in well under half the games played in the NL.

  21. rob

    November 12, 2009 at 10:25 am

    No thanks. However, as long as Conlin mentioned it, I’ll take the DH rule in the NL only on the condition that pitch doctoring is allowed once again.

    And while we’re at it, no Instant Replays. Any serious dispute is best settled by fisticuffs.

  22. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 10:27 am

    If we are going to let the DH in to protect our athletes, then let’s take sacking the QB out of football, checking out of hockey, and jumping out of basketball.

    Also, if the DH is supposed to make baseball more entertaining and sell more seats, let’s dress up the umpires in clown outfits. Just keep up the innovation!

  23. christopher

    November 12, 2009 at 10:28 am

    get rid of the DH or leave it the same. if the NL adopts the DH i may very well stop watching baseball.

  24. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Nick, they have put so many rules in place to not sack the QB, to not check hard in hockey, and what about hand checking in basketball? You cant touch someone 30 feet from the rim. The game evolves.

  25. Brooks

    November 12, 2009 at 10:32 am

    I grew up in an AL environment and did not like the DH from the start.

    Now, it is clearly a haven for those players who’s diminished skills would have taken them out of the game instead, it’s helping to pad numbers to their career offensive stats.

    The DH should be overturned. Is it an advantage for the AL teams? All in the state of mind.

    This Phillies team’s answer to the DH? O fer Ben Francisco and Swinging for the Stars – Stairs – not quite the answer for the monster Godzilla Matsui.

  26. kjeantet17

    November 12, 2009 at 10:38 am

    I absolutely HATE the DH rule. A player needs to be able to play the field and swing the bat. I agree with Georgie. I was watching the World Series and when they brought in Rivera to pitch in the 8th, I was thinking that’s odd. What if his spot comes up in the order? Loses some of the strategy and lets guys that need to move on stick around and continue playing.

  27. Phil Lee

    November 12, 2009 at 10:49 am

    This post is a joke, right?

    The DH is the greatest hoax pulled on the American people since the “Moon” landing.

    I love baseball, not offense.

    You can excuse the AL anyway you want, but it’s just an excuse.

    The NL is playing a much more enjoyable game, a game I like to call Baseball.

  28. Georgie

    November 12, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Pat, I guess you could say I have a “caveman” mentality then, because as far as football and hockey evolving, I’m not sure I like the direction they’ve taken. I know concussions are a big concern, and I have no problem with trying to eliminate hits that are intentionally meant to injure. But honestly, some of the penalties that are called today in both sports are questionable, at best. Depending on the officials, you can hardly even TOUCH another player in the NHL anymore, it may as well be figure skating, and I’ll watch that in the Olympics, thank you very much! Hate the shootout, too. NO CHANGES in sports, F evolving!

  29. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 10:55 am

    Georgie, I agree some sports have gone in an odd direction. But its all about getting the average fan involved. Sports are not the same as they were 50 years ago, we all know that.

    This post wasnt meant to insult the intelligence of the masses. Seems clear that no one can have an opinion other than the DH is a ridiculous rule. Could be, but I’m trying to think outside of the box. Maybe im not as old school as I should be.

  30. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 10:57 am

    DH sucks. Period.

  31. Pat Gallen

    November 12, 2009 at 10:57 am

    I will say this, I’m tired of playing on an uneven field. Baseball is one sport, the leagues are now one these days. Use it both ways, or not at all.

  32. Georgie

    November 12, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Well, maybe I’m TOO old school, but the DH is just not baseball at its finest, imo.
    And I know the shootout was instituted to hopefully improve NHL ratings, but jeezums, it just doesn’t belong there, other than the Allstar game.

  33. Phil Lee

    November 12, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Pat, I don’t feel insulted, in fact, besides realignment, the DH is possibly the funnest things in sports to argue about. Kudos for bringing it up.

    However, that being said, the DH is really, really lame. It’s just so dumb. The AL is a joke, it’s a side show. It’s fine to have a player who’s only real skill is hitting, just like it’s fine to have a player who’s only real skill is pitching, but you gotta play both sides.

  34. Georgie

    November 12, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Pat, I don’t think anyone’s intelligence has been insulted, and Phil’s right, it’s a great topic for baseball lovers to discuss.

  35. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Is it though? maybe the real problem is that the NL has not adapted and learn a way to even things up. That’s why I keep calling for us to sign Beltre and DeRosa. Seems like at least a partial solution to our “problems”, if they relly are problems.

    The DH introduces several issues as well. One, all of a sudden you have a carry a salary that could be equivalent to another position player. This expands player payrolls. Two, a lot of DHs are guys who teams prefer to not have the field. Fine, they are just hitting, but what happens when they have to run the bases? They may not necessarily be athletic enough. Three, as for pitchers getting tired, it may not be as pronounced as you think. Most would agree that most pitchers are an easy out. Now what if a DH gets up there and has a 12 pitch AB? What is more tiring? It might very well be a wash. There are other issues as well, but I think these are a few of them that aren’t mentioned as often.

  36. Jeff of Nova

    November 12, 2009 at 11:29 am

    Yeah, everyone needs to relax a little, I mean I hate the DH with the passion of a thousand suns! But I love debating it. Its not going anywhere.

    Good Topic Pat, Keep it up

  37. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 11:39 am

    The thing about protecting athletes in games like football and hockey though is that it saves them from things that are way over the top. Sure, sometimes there are bad calls that are a little too aggressive, but by the same point you can still have good hits. What is so dangerous about swinging a bat or running the bases? If you swing a bat properly, you are not going to hurt yourself. You also shouldn’t hurt yourself running the bases. The most compelling argument is that a pitcher could get hit by a pitch, but they can also get hit by a line drive. It’s part of the game. Play the game.

    A $10MM DH can hurt themselves running the bases too. I guess we need a DR – designated runner. That way an old slugger won’t hurt himself and the game will be more exciting since you won’t be giving up steal opportunities.

  38. The Original Chuck P

    November 12, 2009 at 11:40 am

    I hate the DH rule and it’s ridiculous that the leagues have different rules. A monkey could manage an AL lineup… the best hitters almost always start and finish a game. An AL bench is almost pointless but an NL bench is extremely important… so AL teams can afford to spend big bucks on that 9th bat but NL teams have to spend extra money on relievers and extra bench guys because the 6th-9th innings sometimes looks like a carousel of pitchers/batters (you have to have depth in the NL).

    With that being said… I’m really surprised that the NL hasn’t already adopted the rule and I suspect they will at some point. In a league where homeruns and marquee pitchers sell tickets, it would make sense to enact this rule; a rule which protects the big arms and generates more runs. I wish that baseball would do away with the DH but it ain’t gonna happen… baseball is more likely to bring the DH to both leagues than they are to eliminate it.

  39. dudley monk

    November 12, 2009 at 11:41 am

    First, I do not like the DH in the National League. It takes away the strategy needed to make the game what it is. Second, on the side of the DH, having it in the NL levels the playing field. Still, I am against the DH in the National League. We don’t need it.

  40. The Original Chuck P

    November 12, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    My point is this… none of us like the DH but we would all love to see the leagues playing under the same rules. Maybe the DH rule gives the AL an advantage… maybe it doesn’t… I know that the aging dragon, Hideki Matsui, was a big part of the Yankee success this season. Without him, their lineup looked marginal…

    At this point in time, I would prioritize fairness and ensuring an even playing field ahead of baseball purity and what I feel is a better way to play the game. I despise the DH but it’s crazy that the leagues play under wildly different rules… since the DH is unlikely to go away, I think that we have to consider adding the DH to the NL.

  41. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    We are fine as it is; we can beat the AL without the DH. We’ll just have to work on a stronger bench. I think we may be overblowing this whole debate just because we lost and their DH was the WS MVP.

  42. beta sigma shag

    November 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    I agree the DH sucks. Like someone stated before, why not have a desingnated runner so you star will not get hurt running the bases, more steals more runs scored it is good for the game, can pay some guy who can not hit or field and expand the rosters. Players play, the run, bat, field, and if you are a pitcher pitch. That is why the NL is more fun to watch because of the stratagie needed to play the game.
    Saying that, I kind of like the NL and AL being different. Just like I am not a fan of inter league play. I like keeping the leagues seperate, until the WS, and All Star game.
    But if we had to be all the same I would say get rid of the DH in American league, which I know will never happen, but I also do not see the NL adopting the DH in my lifetime

  43. Manny

    November 12, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    I actually like that both leagues are different. It’s not like we’re playing AL teams all year long. We only play them during interleague games and the World Series. First, the interleague games are just there to add “spice” to the whole season… and it is fun to watch everyone play a bit beyond their comfort zone. As for the World Series, NL teams need to start having stronger bench players (focus on that some more) and you can eventually neutralize the DH player on the other team when playing the 3 or 4 away games. The Phillies carried a weak bench into the World Series… and that’s what we get.

  44. blic

    November 12, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    pat, love the idea. dh ain’t goin’ anywhere so why risk your players?
    look what happened to wang in houston. fist time lee gets nicked out for a month or two and the season tanks let’s see how many of these dh haters have a “sudden change of heart.” in 73 it was stupid. trouble is like all things $$$ rule. the players are too valuable now. my idea is howsabout we boycott baseball untill a collective barganing agreement is instituted? who want’s to start that pettition!? otherwise it’s all yankees all the time.


  45. Don M

    November 12, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    I think I like that both leagues are different too.. and I see it staying that way forever (or at least for a few more decades)

    The AL teams will not get rid of the DH, because their fans are used to the offense.. there are players under contract do play the DH.. it allows for GREAT players to stay in the game (Ken Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, etc.. longer than they would be able to without the DH rule)

    NL teams won’t add the DH anytime soon because they are set on the tradition of the game played that way.. if they ever add the DH, it will be voted on.. and it won’t actually come into play until 5 years after is passes .. to give all teams a fair chance to plan their rosters accordingly down the line ..

    It would be nice if both leagues played under the same rules.. but it’s another thing that makes baseball that much more interesting than every other sport

  46. The Original Chuck P

    November 12, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    The DH was created to extend the careers of HOF’ers like Al Kaline and Orlando Cepeda… you keep those marquee names around a little longer and make a little more cash. Unfortunately, the rule had a much more profound impact on the game than anyone could have imagined.

    Now that it’s here, the Union would never let the DH go away… there is more money to be made for bench players. Instead of 8 every day position players, there are ten… more money being made by players means more respect and power for the Union.

  47. bfo_33

    November 12, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Like most posting, I prefer the NL game. More strategy and more second guessing on strategy. And while I think it makes a big difference in interleague play, I don’t think it factors into the WS.

    Last 10 Winners:
    R. Sox
    W. Sox
    R. SOx

    When you factor in that the Yanks and Red Sox have the two highest payrolls, it pretty much evens out. Payroll doesn’t guarantee a championship (see Mets and Orioles), but does help an organization that is already well run. Not violently opposed to it like some, but would prefer to keep the status quo.

    The bigger question is a hard cap/profit sharing. How are KC, Pitt, and Cinc, which all have great baseball traditions, going to stay relevant. Granted, Pitt and KC are poorly run and make bad decisions (KC is getting better, but Pitt probably has 7 of the 10 worst trades ever in the last 5 years), but can baseball survive when half the teams don’t play meaningful baseball after May? My kids play baseball because they have had the luck of having good players (if not always good teams) during their life. Guys they like to watch, then emulate. There is a whole generation of fans in several parts fo the country who have no local player to admire. This is what is going to bring baseball down if not fixed.

  48. Don M

    November 12, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    It might not factor into SOME World Series outcomes ..
    but when the MVP of the 2009 World Series, was in fact the DH from the Yankees

    you have to think about the different team structures..

    RedSox swept the Cardinals in 2004, with David Ortiz playing 1b in two of those games… He made 0 Errors in those two games, but both times was replaced defensively by Doug Mientkiewicz

    When you replace your Cleanup Hitter for Defense late in games, it really changes your offensive strategy.. and possibly more aggressive baserunning, etc..

  49. Bob Kahn

    November 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Let’s think big. How about an offensive team and a defensive team? You get the best hitters and the best fielders! Football does it. The reason it won’t work is simple the cost of maintaining a larger team. It would extend players careers and provide jobs for those who are great fielders but not hitters.
    I, unlike most, don’t have strong feelings about DH. I think it is working to the detriment of the NL vs AL but beyond that it makes for different games. So long as attendance is good in both leagues you won’t see much change.
    One thing I thought was a good idea was the Commissioner’s idea that in interleague games the AL parks would have no DH and the NL parks would have DH. This would give the fans the opportunity to experience the different rules. Might be a good start to some rationalization.

  50. Jim

    November 12, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    This article is complete blasphemy. Where is your national league pride? Where’s your baseball purism. Call me old fashioned but I think they guys who play the field should also bat.

    This blog is dead to me now.

  51. Bret

    November 12, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    No DH please, I dont need to watch 4 hour baseball games all summer.

  52. NickFromGermantown

    November 12, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Seriously, I think all of this talk is because we lost the World Series. We didn’t lose because Matsui went on a tear. We lost 2 games at home where Matsui barely had any ABs. We lost because we didn’t keep ourselves in the game at key moments, whether it be pitching or hitting. That was the problem.

  53. George

    November 12, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Yankees didn’t win because of the DH. They won because the Phils didn’t know how to pitch to him.

    The “injuries” thing is a spurious argument. Anyone can get injured at any time. Pitchers get hit with line drives, fielders pull muscles, hitters break fingers when hit by pitches. Parity is also a false argument. It may be more difficult for an NL team on offense, but interleague games and the Series are played both ways, so it shouldn’t matter.

    I say keep the two leagues as is. I’ve never liked the AL and the DH gives me all the more reason not to like it. Their games are too long, their offenses strategies are uninteresting, and all of their teams have at least one overpaid, overweight, caveman whose only skill involves attempts to bludgeon a baseball with a big maple club.

  54. George

    November 12, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    “Offenses” should be “offensive.” Serves me right for trying to improve my wording.

  55. The Original Chuck P

    November 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Nick, you’re right… all of this talk is because we lost. We lost a crucial game 6 because the Yankees had the luxury of bringing in a one trick pony like Matsui; a “professional baseball player” that can’t run or field a position. In the NL, you can’t afford to waste roster spots on guys like Matsui because you have to use every roster spot that you can get for depth. Matt Stairs isn’t exactly fleet of foot but he can still field a position…

  56. Corey Seidman

    November 12, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    I, too, would hate the idea of bringing the DH to the NL. Not because I love seeing pitchers hit or because its a “natural element of the game,” but because it’s almost physically impossible for me to sit through an American League game.

    Seriously. I watch more baseball than probably 98% of the world, but when it comes to the Extra Innings package, I avoid AL games unless there are no other games on. Why? Because its a different league. It’s slower. More hitting. Less strategy.

    This doesn’t mean I’m saying that double-switches are the best thing about baseball, but having to worry about when a pitcher’s due up, or looking at a lineup and seeing the pitcher leadoff and mark down an out for your team, is part of what makes NL baseball great.

    In all likelihood, the two leagues will never agree. One will always have the DH, the other will have the pitcher’s spot.

    Idk, I’m an NL fan who enjoys NL rules. I know of many AL fans who can’t watch NL games. Not calling one better than the other, just saying NL games are more for people who enjoy the enhanced strategic element of baseball, in addition to everything else about it.

  57. Mike

    November 12, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    WTF!!!!! There should be no dh in baseball!!!!!! In example; If you take the dh away from the minnesota twins, they wouldnt be in the playoffs. Teams rely soooo much on dh’s today!!!!!! They should be playing the game of baseball instead and have the pitcher do something for a change

    NO DH!!!!!!!! 馮女 婁態!!!!!!!!

  58. Don M

    November 12, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Considering these “One Trick Ponies” only trick is actually the hardest thing to do in sports.. …. HIT A BASEBALL …. I’d say it’s a pretty cool trick, a pretty nice skill

    and I for one, love the fact that Ken Griffey Jr. can still play in the Majors.. getting a few extra chances at the HRs and glory he didn’t get a chance at when he was injured.

    I love the mind-game, and strategy in the National League.. so I’m glad that we don’t have the DH in the National League

    But I am also glad that the AL does have it. I really like the idea of the Interleague Games switching rules depending on the home team

    All games in which the NL is home, will have a DH-rule
    All games in which the AL is home, the pitchers will have to bat.

    that would be cool.. but I doubt it will happen


    November 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    No F@#*ing Way!!!!!!!

  60. Rick in RI

    November 12, 2009 at 5:52 pm

    Things I’d love to see in baseball:

    1) A salary cap.
    2) An end to the DH.
    3) No more ridiculously long commercial breaks during the playoffs (Why not do it like soccer where the commercials are in a corner of the screen?).
    4) No more than 2 mound visits an inning without a pitching change (including the catcher).
    5) No more stepping out of the batter’s box with more than one foot.
    6) A timer on the pitcher in between pitches.

    This game needs to be sped up drastically. The umpires do a lousy job of controlling the pace of the game. The DH just brings it down to an even more mind-numbingly slow pace.

  61. Andrew

    November 12, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    Take the DH out of the AL
    It is a disgrace. AL baseball is like the NBA. Not interested.
    Its almost on a retarded level to even suggest this.
    I cant sit through an AL game.

  62. Geoff

    November 12, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Agreed. THe DH is lame….I like watching AL pitching, but i hate the DH. Its so lame. and it forces you to spend much more money on your roster just to get a guy who only hits. stupid.

  63. Geoff

    November 12, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Its on the same level as the foul shot ruining basketball.

  64. Keith E

    November 12, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    NO DH!!!
    GO PHILS!!!

  65. Andy

    November 12, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    I cannot believe you posted this. What a joke. The DH is a joke. 9 men play the field, 9 men hit.

  66. Timmy

    November 12, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    The DH is an abomination. The AL in an abomination.
    Go Phils. Who wants to miss a Cliff Lee double or a Brett Myers 9 pitch walk?

  67. KidJenkinz

    November 12, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Definitely get rid of DH in MLB.

    Manny Says:
    Eliminate Myer’s walk against Sabathia, and the game loses so much excitement…

    I agree 100%

  68. Matt Hates DH

    November 13, 2009 at 3:01 am

    I absolutely despise this idea. Changing to the AL’s rules is taking all strategy out of baseball. I loathe the DH, I hate the AL and nothing is better than a manager having to actually think about the decisions he makes (Which is why I give no credit to worthless managers like Girardi and Francona) who have walked into All-Star caliber teams and gotten lucky, cause the hardest decisions they have to make are putting in one guy that can hit for another guy that can hit. Please don’t ever bring this topic up again, or I may never come on this website again.

  69. therookie300

    November 13, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Maybe I could agree with you all about getting rid of the DH, but watching NL pitchers be a total black hole in the 9 spot is not fun to watch at all. Their hitting skills might be remedial at best. Watching them try to lay down a sac bunt is aggravating to say the least. I see it enough on our own team too. Since there doesn’t seem to be quite the focus on having the pitcher improve, why have them bat? That seems like more of a waste of time anymore. I’d rather watch a more skilled hitter bat than some weak hitting pitcher going through the motions. I mean how many times with one out do you hope that the pitcher strikes out so he doesn’t ground into a double play? And he usually gets to a bad count because he can’t lay down a freakin bunt.

  70. Don M

    November 13, 2009 at 9:22 am


    How many total hits did Phillies pitchers have???

    How boring is it to watching an inning that starts with the 6-7-8 hitters.. one of those guys manges to get on first base .. and then only exciting thing about it is that the team will “turn the lineup over”

    Watching AL teams is more “EXCITING”

    I’m a bigger fan of the strategy involved without the DH, which bring the bunt, double-switch, and pitching-matchups more into play

    but people that are really upset about the DH rule need to relax a little

    Imagine baseball with no Vladimir Guerro, Ken Griffy Jr., Jim Thome, etc… the DH also allowed our own Pat Burrell to continue to make a living playing baseball.. and making his exit here not as tough on the fan base (who really felt bad for him after he signed a deal for $16 M?)

    The DH-rule isn’t changing.. no sense in complaining about it

    Maybe we should win an All-Star game, and get home field advantage for once?

  71. GWFightinsFan

    November 13, 2009 at 11:42 am

    NO DH!!!! It takes away from the strategy that makes baseball great.

  72. Corey Seidman

    November 14, 2009 at 2:38 am

    From the looks of it, Edgar Martinez and Frank Thomas would get beaten up if they commented on this article.

  73. Will

    November 17, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Get rid of the DH. It is an absolute joke. It takes so much strategy out of the game.

    NL managers are playing chess to the AL managers’ game of checkers.

    The AL game is an inferior product because of this. If the NL adopts the DH, I might just stop watching baseball altogether.

    I’d be happy to sign a petition to rid MLB of the DH.

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