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Phillies Sign Contreras

Earlier today, Jayson Stark said that the Phillies backed off on John Smoltz, but were interested in Jose Contreras.  ESPN’s Enrique Rojas is reporting that the Phillies have agreed to a one-year deal with Contreras, pending a physical.

Because Smoltz wants to start, the Phillies moved onto Contreras, who will serve as a right-handed reliever and take over Clay Condrey’s role.  Contreras, 38, went 6-13 with a 4.92 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP with the Chicago White Sox and Colorado Rockies in 131.2 innings last year.



  1. Ed R.

    January 22, 2010 at 3:24 pm

    I don’t even know how to feel about this. 38 year old who has a career 4.61 era. Really? They couldn’t find anyone better than this?

  2. mikemike

    January 22, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    really shows they have no faith in the kids on the farm. but he is signing cheap no big deal,

  3. Tom

    January 22, 2010 at 3:28 pm


  4. MYSoo

    January 22, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    Exactly Tom, why?

    As for the kids on the farm, I think the Phillies would rather take a pitching prospect and turn them into a starter rather than waste their talent by putting them in the bullpen.

  5. jose

    January 22, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    los muchachitos pueden aprender de comtreras el es un veterano y le puede encenar a los novatos …. good jod ruben

  6. Maniac

    January 22, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    A horrible move here. This guy is way beyond his time and will not improve the bullpen. I’d be a lot happier with Gagne. His ERA the last 2 seasons are 4.92 and 5.42… ouch.

  7. Sgt.Schmidt

    January 22, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    This isn’t TOO bad (but not great either). It seems like Amaro has high hopes of resigning Pedro also so that they could compete for the 5th starting role. Not a bad idea

  8. Havoc

    January 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Have to disagree maniac. I think he’s got a shot to be effective in the pen. His relief numbers last year were much better than as a starter. (Granted it’s a smaller sample size.) Since this was a cheap contract there really isn’t any risk here for the Phils, so if he’s even an average reliever it will be ok. Season still figures to open with two of Bastardo, Escalona, or Mathieson in the pen. Of course if Contreras stinks you can always cut him and use another rookie.

  9. Bobby D

    January 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    Gagne posted similar numbers in the Can-Am league last year. You’d rather have him?

  10. Chris L

    January 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    ERA as a starter can be miss leading. If he would give up 1-2 runs the first time through and get knocked around after 5, then the numbers mean nothing in the role he would have on this team.

    Gagne could never be relied upon for more than an inning and I don’t think I would trust him on back to back days either.

    Unless it’s some ungodly amount of money, this is a great deal. heck, who even said it was gaurenteed roster spot?

  11. The Second John

    January 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    As long as its a cheap deal, I’ll take it

  12. Chuck

    January 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    This no big deal…give the guy a shot…if he tanks…. then turn to the “kids on the farm”

    Who knows…he could be the next Pedro for us..

  13. Havoc

    January 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    You have to roll the dice with these type of players from time to time. Phils have a good rotation (Possibly great), a decent bench, and what should be a tremendous lineup. If we have to gamble on one spot bullpen performance is the place I’d rather do it. Not to mention it’s easier to make trades for additional bullpen arms than to fill out issues to the rotation or lineup.

  14. william

    January 22, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    He posted a pretty good ERA w/ the Rockies yea it was only 7 games but that included 2 starts maybe the guy just needs a change of scenery and if he puts up a 4.80 ERA in the number 5 hole is that going to be the end of the world? If he can get to the 7th inning what more should we expect from a 5th starter?

  15. John

    January 22, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    I’m actually kind of liking this deal. Depending on the dollars of course. But he was effective in relief, gives us a backup starter in case of injury and the move to the NL should help him. His FIP and xFIP are better than Durbin, and his BAPIP was crazy high last year. Overall, I like it.

  16. Malcolm

    January 22, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    See how he pitches when he comes out of the pen. It’s been a couple of years since his stuff has looked really good.

  17. Don M

    January 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    Everyone hated the Chan Ho Park signing last year too ….

    THis is another smart, cheap move that adds a veteran and gives us more options to win ballgames..

  18. The Dipsy

    January 22, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Is he gonna throw with his left arm?

    The Dipsy

  19. Mazinman

    January 22, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Assuming the Phils got him at a cheap price and he is going to the bullpen , I like this move. I think he can help out our bullpen and allow us to continue developing our young talent and not rush them.

  20. BS

    January 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Contreras has had a lower FIP than Blanton for 3 of the past 4 years. Not saying that he’s better than Kentucky Joe, but if we got him for cheap, this could be a nice deal for us. He might turn out to be this year’s Chan Ho (bullpen version)

  21. j reed

    January 23, 2010 at 2:03 am

    Dipsy – nope there gonna rplace his right arm with Bobo the elephant’s trunk.

    I didn’t hate the Chan Ho signing…I was glad but he was 36. Conteras is 38 in MLB years…what’s the upside, that he’s older? Signing an older pitcher is one thing but if you don’t know his real age then you buying a car from someone who pushed the odometer back 10,000 miles or so.

    Pedro was great but blew a tire at the end. It sucked to watch him struggle with an 83 mph fastball. in game 6. I really enjoyed him. That’s one reason I hate signing older pitchers…I don’t like seeing a guy trail off into the sunset on bad note and knowing the guys arm is so f**ked he can hardly pick-up a cup of coffee.

  22. Brian Sr. of CO

    January 24, 2010 at 4:04 am

    This is a cheap signing, and he did post good numbers with the Rockies. Maybe the time with the Rockies was a fluke, maybe its a case that he is a NL pitcher not an AL pitcher. Like it or not, the AL is usually stronger than the NL. There is a reason they call the Phillies “an AL team in the NL.” But really its being reported this deal is worth about 1 Mill, sad as it is for you and I and our paychecks, that is chump change for a ML team, and this seems to be a very low risk signing. If he sucks, he rarely pitches and the phillies didnt really spend alot (considering he was paid about 10 Mil in ’09). Best case scenario he gives the Phillies what he gave the Rockies. Honestly for 1 Mill for a year, something in the middle wouldnt be bad either. There really are some people who just can NOT be pleased at all. In ’09 we didnt get Hallady and we “settled for Lee”, then Lee was a beast. Then we got Halladay, arguably one of the best in the game, and look “RAJ is a moron, we should have kept Lee” (I know it would have been nice to have both, oh well). Blanton is a consistent starter and an “innings eater”, yet “why would Ruben sign Joe for 3 years, horrible move”. LOL. This isnt everyone, or even the majority but some people need to realize that it is just impossible for the Phillies front office to please them. Like it or not, the Phillies dont have the Yankees payroll (no one does which is why there should be a Salary Cap, but thats another story). Honestly looking at the team, I think the Phillies are fill spots and not filling “gaping holes”. The only thing that might be a hole could be #5. Moyer is another year older with an injury. Kendrick was wicked as a rookie, hit a nasty Sophemore slump, but did look better at the of ’09, and Contreras if he competes for #5, if he goes back to the AL days, he is in the Pen, if he stays the way he was with the Rockies in 7 games, he could keep it. But is a ? at the #5 spot really a “gaping hole”?

  23. ax

    January 24, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    he has playoff/world series experience and a high groundball rate.

    not a bad signing we’ll have to see how it pans out, they might leave him in the bullpen all yeah if he cant get a quality start.

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