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Braves Again Obey Doc's Orders as Phils Win 3-1

For anyone who thought that Roy Halladay might be slumping, his performance Monday night against the Braves, in the first game of probably the biggest series of the season so far for the Phillies, showed that any imperfection was in the eye of the beholder.

OK, that might be a small dose of hyperbole, but here’s the point: Halladay is just fine, thank you. Doc threw his seventh complete game of the season, holding the potent Braves lineup to five hits and needing to fling his right arm forward a measly 93 times to do so. The only blemish on Halladay’s stat line was a cheap home run to left-center by Chipper Jones that likely was a product of the furnacelike conditions at Citizens Bank Park and almost certainly would not have sailed over the fence at any other stadium in the major leagues.

Also in the category of amazing from the game was the source of the Phillies’ first two runs: the bat of Greg Dobbs, who homered to left-center off Derek Lowe in the sixth inning after the Phils’ offense had managed only four singles in the first five innings. The homer was Dobbs’ second of the season and first since being called up after he was designated for assignment, seemingly eliminating his spot on the Phillies’ big league roster.

But back to the Man of the Night. In two starts against the Braves this season, Halladay has pitched a complete game and allowed five hits both times. Take away Jones’ cheapie, and he’d have two shutouts. The only major league TEAM with more CGs than Doc’s seven is the Mariners, who have eight (mostly thanks to a relative unknown; I think his name is Lee).

The Phillies couldn’t have asked for a much better start to the series (OK, more offense would have been nice). Now it’s up to Cole Hamels to keep it going, and no offense to Hamels, but the Phillies are probably not going to be able to scrape by with three runs in the heat of the night Tuesday.

Nick “The Beerman” discusses the heat with last night on KYW



  1. Mark

    July 5, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Lee trade to the Twins a done deal per a Detroit radio station

  2. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 5, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    I walk my dogafter most games. Really got to enjoy tonights walk.
    Now lets win the next 2.

    If the Phils make the world series ( seems unlikely) be lucky to face the twins instead of an AL east team. Maybe this will stop the Lee talk.

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  4. Chris.I

    July 5, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Let me refresh everybody’s memories here for a second about this team, cause I’m tired of all these band wagon fans who jock the Phils when their winning, and talk all this crap when we get banged up a little. Were going to make the playoffs whether its clinching the NL East or piggy back on Atlanta backs down the stretch. Once we get there…I don’t know what will happen, but if were 100% healthy we have a good shot making the World Series again.

    By the way Im very close to really likeing this Sardinha kid…He’s been good as of late, and shows good bat speed, and calls good games. Look out Ruiz! We just might start seeing team Sardinha shirts in crowds….Plus he has a good arm. He gunned Blanco’s ass tonight stealing 2nd

  5. Chris.I

    July 5, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Jonathon Im with you with that Cole Hamels theory, 3 runs tomorrow. I think he’ll come through this next game. I still got faith in this kid. He’s got good stuff. With Hamels its all mental with him. Gives up a few runs and gets down on himself to quick. Once he learns the ”mental” part of the game he’ll be great. He’s got 2 great teachers to learn from now with Halladay and Moyer. He’s going be alright


    July 5, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    great job by Halladay, great to see Dobbs hitting and hopefully this will continue. Howard, despite two hits, seems to be swinging weakly, not the powerhouse swing of yesteryear. Maybe it’s me looking too much into things.

  7. Matt

    July 5, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    Dobbs’ homerun went to right center not left…good excitement in the stands was nice to have a crowd in the game for a change.

  8. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 6, 2010 at 12:00 am

    Dobbsy got the Ashburn? Inspirational. He should hit 4th tomorrow.

  9. jeff

    July 6, 2010 at 12:15 am

    How bout Utley saying today that he will be back in Six Weeks. Love that guy. Knowing how hard he works he will be back. Maybe that hip will heel a little.

  10. Brian Sr. of CO

    July 6, 2010 at 12:19 am

    Go figure, Dobbs. WOW. AMAZING. Maybe he still can do something. The problem is, the Bench are the only guys actually showing up. Win or loss, it seems our best hitters anymore, with more RBI’s, Homers, and everything. Regardless it appears Jeff was correct about Halladay, he just isnt that good. I mean what kind of bum throws 7 complete games. Real bum, we got robbed. LOL. (Yes thats sarcasm.) Sorry though folks, no real reason for optimism just yet. Maybe if a regular starter got more than 3 RBI’s in a week, instead of letting the bench players (who almost everyone said SUCKS) we might have a reason for optimism. I am just not happy with Werth, Howard, Vic, Ibanez, Rollins showing up for one game putting up 12 runs against a BAD team, a game after being shut out, and still only scoring 5 the next game against a BAD team. Even in the 5 runs, I believe Howard had a SAC fly, same with Werth. True, a run is a run, but if they get hits there, it is always better. Is this team that weak mentally, that by not having all the starters, they are affected that much? Really? I mean this started when Rollins went down, got better when he came back for the FEW games we had the entire infield, then Utley and Polanco go down, and “WOW IS ME” again.

  11. Brian Sr. of CO

    July 6, 2010 at 12:21 am

    @Jeff, true statement. Chase is a beast! Same player who played through a hip injury and win the World Series!

  12. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 6, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Votto 2 more homers tonight. But hey Ryan K. Howard and his projected 27 homers from first base are there.
    The old man should have taken Ruiz instead.

  13. Brian Sr. of CO

    July 6, 2010 at 1:29 am

    I agree with Andrew, Charlie has lost his mind. Howard did NOT in any way shape or form deserve to be mentioned much less chosen in place of someone who is actually doing their job. Like it or not, Votto is outplaying Howard by LEAPS AND BOUNDS.

  14. TBOH

    July 6, 2010 at 1:39 am

    I’m honestly shocked that Chase didn’t steal Valdez’s jersey, run out onto the field, play second for four innings before anyone noticed, and punch Martin Prado in the face for taking his All-Star spot for good measure.


  15. Brian Sr. of CO

    July 6, 2010 at 1:58 am

    (3rd time is the charm for trying to post this)

    Why should Utley be upset about someone esle starting the All Star game? The official lineup (BEFORE injury replacements) has Utley starting at 2nd. The only reason anyone is starting in place of him, is he is on the DL. I dont think Utley cares. Not to mention, I havent seen Prado mentioned anywhere for starting in place of Utley. In the article linked below, it says Phillips is replacing Utley.

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  17. Brooks

    July 6, 2010 at 6:58 am

    Watching the good doctor last night, at first we weren’t sure how well he was doing. After the first inning, you saw that he gave up 2 hits but threw only 11 pitches, all for strikes. So, there was a feeling that something great was in store – if only the O could get on the board which Dobbs took care of handily.

    I asked the question late in the game why Dobbs was taken out of the lineup and I was told D but, when did Castro fill in for Dobbs? Was it in the bottom of the 8th?

    93 pitches! Wow – that was a great performance!

  18. Brooks

    July 6, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Doc, Doc, Doc!!!!
    What else can you say about what he is doing? This looks like a career season for him, regardless of the fact that the Phillies offense has been so sporadic behind him. Lets say he starts 34 games (which is typical although Cholly has him on pace to probably start either 35 or 36); his career highs in complete games (only 2 more and he’ll be at 9, which is his career best he did 2 times), 1 more shut out and he’ll tie his career best (4 last year), he is currently averaging over 7 innings a start but in 03 (his CY year) he started 36 games for the Jays and pitched a league leading 266 innings (he could come close, very close), his career high in K’s is 208, he is on pace to top that – and lets be realistic, if the Phils displayed offense for Doc up to this point he would probably have at least 13 wins – given that there were 2 games where he gave up 5 or more runs. Doc could win 20 or more, if the O wakes up –

    One more thing, he is on pace to walk less than 40 batters! His strike to ball ratio is amazing. Control is his name!

  19. bfo_33

    July 6, 2010 at 8:19 am

    Saw Brown in Lehigh Sun Night (a great place to see a game – $6 lawn seats, $5.50 beers, kids had a great time) – looked like a man among boys (hr to dead center, sack fly, rbi single – hits the ball hard every time up). Also remember thinking the same about Taylor last year, who is batting 0.250 with a 0.703 ops in triple A for the As.
    Happ looked decent, didn’t top 91, completely lost the strike zone in the 4th, got a nd (needs a few more outings). Mathieson was throwing 97, completely unhittable, threw mostly strikes.

    I try to stay away from this site when the Phils lose – too much dooom and gloom bashing of Ruben. Judge what a GM does 5 years later. We’re only 4 games out, took the first game of the series against the division winner, have a solid chance of winning the series. If we can go 3-3 in the next 6 games, can limp into the all-star break well within striking distance. Not bad for playing with the opening day line-up 5xs (could be off a few games either way) in the first half of the season. It wasn’t too long ago when we were double digit games out by the all-star game, already dreaming of next year.

    Will only catch the highlights tonight (7:30 game for my oldest – go East Stroudsburg American All-Stars!)). JJ isn’t into mid season form yet, and it’s going to be hot even by Atl standards. The ball will fly tonight – predict a big night from Howard (who I thought hit the ball well yesterday).

  20. Papa Thompson

    July 6, 2010 at 8:46 am

    @ Brooks, Castro hit for Dobbs in the 8th. The Phils attempted (and failed at laying down) a suicide squeeze in that AB, but I question whether a squeeze was in the mix when Castro went to the plate. It came late in the AB, and after a pitchout. I’m thinking Charlie didn’t call for the squeeze until after the pitchout, and was trying to take advantage of perceived easy pickin’s. In any event, it was a PH situation against a LHP, and Castro was called upon over BenFran. He eventually drove in the run on a weak groundball, mostly because Werth’s attempt to steal third pulled Chipper out of position.

  21. NickFromGermantown

    July 6, 2010 at 8:47 am

    Good win today. Would have been nice to see some more offense, but with Halladay, that’s not too much of a concern with him mowing them down.

    I also like Sardinha a lot from what he has shown us. Scheinder is going to have to be looking over his shoulder. The ability to call a good game is paramount and irreplaceable. They need to keep up winning ways and use this game to build off of. You have to walk before you can run. The time to start is now.

  22. Ed R.

    July 6, 2010 at 8:57 am

    The Detroit radio station jumped the gun big time with the Lee trade. I have a friend in Detroit and he said the big sports station there has been talking about Lee going to Minnesota for a week non stop. Pretty sure the station is trying to get the Tigers to pay attention and do something of their own. I don’t really trust anything that comes out of Detroit.

    Great job by Halladay last night, the Braves offensive game plan certainly helped him out swinging at so many first pitch strikes.

    Hopefully Hamels can get a W tonight and then we can look towards another win. This team really needs to sweep this series…winning it 2-1 only gains us a game and to me that doesn’t seem like enough at all.

  23. bfo_33

    July 6, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Miss-type above – Braves are division leader, not winner. A sweep against the Braves would be great, but there are 3 mos left of the season – 2 of 3 would be nice. Hamels is pitching 2 more games before the all-star break, Halladay 1. Take at least 2 of those 3, at least 1 of the other 3, and we’re on track. While I’d like to see all the Phils at the all-star game, the break will be good for them.

    The Reds series is going to be a tough one – they look a lot like the Phils of 2006-08, a young, solid squad with a few veterans mixed in. If they get a bullpen, they’ll be playing October ball.

  24. Hot dogs

    July 6, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Castro was put in in the top of the 8th for defense, he was not a pinch hitter

  25. NickFromGermantown

    July 6, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Man, I feel like the editors are a little harsh. They give Halladay the Jeltz for that one recent outing where he lost and they give yesterday’s Ashburn to Dobbs. I know the bar is high, but come on. 93 pitches!!!

  26. Bob in Bucks

    July 6, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Can anyone remember Charlie callling for a suicide squeeze before? I was at the game and before each pitch to Castro our third base coach would give signs and then lean in and whisper to Raul at 3B. I could not believe he was going to squeeze with Raul. I thought maybe Werth would try and steal second and that Raul could then steal home. But a suicide squeeze? Then the pitch-out and I thought still, a steal.

    Well Castro could not get his bat on that inside pitch and Raul learned why they call it suicide.

    Still, I don’t recall Manuel calling for a suicide squeeze before. Anyone recall?

  27. bfo_33

    July 6, 2010 at 10:44 am

    I can probably count on 1 hand the amount of times Charlie has called for a bunt from a non-pitcher, let alone a suicide squeeze. Unlike previous years, this team is going to have to play small ball at times. Didn’t work out, but I understand the call. I think this is a sign of things to come – Charlie managing games vs filling out the line-up card, letting it rip. Should be interesting.

    Nick – it’s based upon expectations. Many expect Halladay to pitch a complete game shut-out everytime out, and also expect Dobbs make an error or 2, strike out or GIDP every at bat. Glad to see Dobbs with a few hits – we’ll need him and the rest of the bench to perform.

  28. Manny

    July 6, 2010 at 11:00 am

    “No offense to Hamels” but…

    1. Hamels tossed his fourth quality start in his past five outings Thursday.

    2. He has struck out at least SIX in each of those four starts while not allowing more than FIVE hits.

    I’m hoping that today Cole continues the trend and finally gets his ERA under 4.00.

  29. Manny

    July 6, 2010 at 11:01 am

    I can recall one “suicide” squeeze last year (or late 2008? –it’s all a blur) and it worked just fine. Though I think the guy running from 3rd was either Shane or Werth.

  30. NickFromGermantown

    July 6, 2010 at 11:02 am

    What do you guys think about shipping off Werth and getting Lee? Amaro is going to have to get on the phone to do that given the number of parties that may be involved, but I think that’s an interesting idea. With Halladay mowing them down, it sure makes the bullpen look better. Imagine if we had other other CG machine himself…

  31. Evan

    July 6, 2010 at 11:03 am

    If anyone was concerned that Halladay was slumping they expect too much. Starting pitchers, even Halladay, can give up 6 earned runs in a start and still be fine. He’s dominated in so many games that an occasional bad one might seem strange but its not indicative of a slump. He pitches to contact (usually inducing poor contact) more than some aces like Lincecum or Lee, he’ll have bad luck on occasion.

    I’m interested to see if Dobbs can continue hitting. He had such a poor 2009 and a bad start to 2010 its easy to write off his recent short-term success at the plate as luck. But his 2009-2010 stats have a very small sample size and his BABIP was well below his career average. There’s probably some positive regression left in him. He’s got a long way to go to prove he is a worthwhile bench player, it’d be timely if he started now.

  32. Brooks

    July 6, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    Thanks – I missed that Castro was put in the top of the 8th.
    Werth for Lee? Interesting but when Werth is hitting he is dominant. When Lee is on (which seems like most outings lately) he is either dominating or keeping the game close enough to win 1 out of every 5 games.
    Other suggestions? Blanton, Dobbs & Raul for Lee, if that is not enough, toss in Baez for good measure. And then we could say – seeya!

  33. Kate

    July 6, 2010 at 12:59 pm


    No more runs would have been nice. They got what they needed from Doc and they got what they needed from the offense. Yes, there were a lot of guys stranded, but the job got done.

    One game at a time, one out at a time, one run at a time, one hit at a time.

    At the end of the season, it’s going to be the close victories, or lack thereof, that’s going to either turn the page into October or close the book on September.

    I hope they saved the big offense for Hamels, who’s a bit more namby-pamby than Halladay or Moyer.

    Aside from the stranding on the bases, no complaints about this 3-1 victory from me. It’s what I’ve been looking for.

  34. Brooks

    July 6, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    Kate, September into October the Phils will have their mettle tested.
    Last 25 games of the season will be played against teams in their own division. It almost seems like the hot team in that month will win the division. Pretty sure the WC will not come out of the east, all 3 divisions are very competitively matched.

    So, a 3 or 4 game lead going into September is probably not safe enough.

    On a side note, I thought it was ‘mamby pamby’ not ‘namby’ – of course, I have never seen it written before B }

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