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2010 Gameday

Gameday: Phillies (56-47) at Nationals (45-58)

Philadelphia Phillies (56-46) at Washington Nationals (44-58)washington-nationals-logo

Joe Blanton (4-6, 5.85 ERA) vs. Ross Detwiler (0-1, 0.00 ERA)

Time: 7:05, Nationals
Partly Cloudy, 83 Degrees
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The Phillies will look to start a new winning streak after the dropping the series opener last night against the Nationals. Newly acquired Roy Oswalt never really got into a groove against the last place team in the NL East.

Oh the hill for the Phightins will be Joe Blanton. Blanton is coming off one of this strongest starts of the season giving up only two runs throwing six innings and picking up the win against Colorado. It was only his third win in his past eight starts. Kentucky Joe has struggled on the road going 1-4 with a 6.51 ERA.

Ross Detwiler will take the ball for the Nats. Detwiler is coming off his first start of the season against Milwaukee after having surgery on his hip this past offseason. Despite his 0.00 ERA he did take the loss giving up five runs; all unearned.

The Philly bats will look to heat up again. They only scored one run last night courtesy of a Jayson Werth home run; his 15th. Werth is 11 for his last 24 with two homers. He will be batting 4th in the lineup tonight as Ryan Howard has the night off. Domonic Brown, after going 2-4 last night, is in the lineup again batting 6th and playing right field.

Lineup: Rollins 6, Polanco 5, Ibanez 7, Werth 8, Ransom 3, Brown 9, Ruiz 2, Valdez 4, Blanton 1


Your gameday beer: Woodchuck Cider Granny Smith

Woodchuck is tasty, fairly priced, and won’t dry you out. And one good thing about playing in the Nation’s capitol is that most bars in the area probably carry this Cider. Make it your gameday and celebratory beer tonight. So drink up and cool down. -KC

Go Phillies!



  1. Joshua

    July 31, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    I would rather have Brown in RF than have Francisco striking out against a lefty 3 out of 4 times…Brown can hit lefties just as good as right handers..

  2. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Brown needs to see lefties. He is not and will not be a platoon player.


    July 31, 2010 at 6:37 pm


  4. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Another skell pitcher. that worries me.
    Nice to see d. Brown in vs a lefty.
    Now lets win this.

    Braves losing 5-2 in 8th to Cinn


    July 31, 2010 at 6:58 pm



    July 31, 2010 at 7:02 pm

    If jimmy swings at the first pitch………..

  7. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 7:05 pm

    Braves lose

  8. Manny

    July 31, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    That Morgan kid robbed Werth….

    And now he’s on base/


    July 31, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    just missed it!

  10. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Howard will enjoy a night off. It gives him a chance to ponder his swing and mentally throw to second base many, many times.

  11. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    Hey, you guys are getting better, Blanton waited three pitches tonight before starting your meltdown!

  12. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    I think the Morgan kid had it the whole way and just wanted to make it look good.

  13. Manny

    July 31, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Freaking Zimmerman OWNS Heavy B

  14. Manny

    July 31, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Does Blanton look skinnier? Or is it just me

  15. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    Wow. You could go through a whole series against the Nationals and not lead for even a single inning. Kudos, Phillies!

  16. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Joe needs to go, he has been godawful all year long

  17. joe444

    July 31, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    At least Larry Anderson is providing some quality listening: “Either keep giving up hit after hit after hit, and hit hard, or KNOCK SOMEBODY DOWN!”

  18. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 7:32 pm

    At least Atlanta lost already

  19. NYC Philly

    July 31, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    so tired of seeing the typical 3 runs sub 5th inning from blanton. i have the mlb package and a shiney new laptop, but when he pitches i dont watch for fear of needing to purchase another shiniy new laptop

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  21. Dylan

    July 31, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Wow Joe Blanton sucks. I think the contract Ruben gave him was the dumbest thing he ever did, worst than letting Lee go. Let’s hope Raul’s fine, and let’s frickin score on the road and win.

  22. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    When will D-Brown go yard???


    July 31, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    There is no quality listening on the nats feed thats for sure!!

  24. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Last nights Nats starter came in with 2 wins. He dominated. Tongihts has 0 wins. I wonder what will happen.

  25. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Blantons fine. I mean giving up 6 hits in a row doesnt mean anything? does it.

    The Phils should score at least 10 runs tonight. But we all know what will happen.

  26. mark

    July 31, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    Team CHOKE rears its ugly head.


    It’s groundhog year for this team.

  27. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    come on hitters.
    this is a joke

  28. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    Holy cr*p, a buddy of mine works at the Post and he just called to tell me that a warrant is going to be issued for Chase Utley’s arrest on Monday. It’s for solicitation, get this, with a MALE prostitute in Times Square. I can’t believe it, but he swears it’s true. Check the Post tomorrow.

  29. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    If they had done something then you get a rightie in and bring in Howard. This team isnt the same without RH

  30. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks for the humor. Mongotard

  31. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Of course Ruiz hits.

    I swear he shuold be hitting second for somany reasons.

  32. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    @Andy He swears it’s true. The guy’s not even really a sports fan, he wouldn’t make it up, he doesn’t care. We’ll see tomorrow.

  33. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Utley is with the team in DC. I amonly humouring because its kinda slow here.

    Ruiz and valdez get the job done. Typical


    July 31, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    nice job wilson!!!!

  35. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    @Andy It’s from an incident on a trip to NYC in June.

  36. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    getting owned by another garbage pitcher…this is getting old I mean come on…

  37. Kate

    July 31, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    God, why the hell are Wheels and McCarthy so boring and so negative?

    It’s like another knife in the heart everytime they open their mouths. We need new announcers who actually LIKE the Phillies. Even when they’re doing well, those two boneheads (along with Sarge) find SOMETHING to complain about.

  38. Manny

    July 31, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    Good to see Blanton bounce back from his usually terrible 1st innings..

  39. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    @Manny Yeah, it was nice they had those deck chairs so neatly arranged on the Titantic, too.

  40. NYC Philly

    July 31, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    pretty sure even dykstra is available at his current default rate of 10 cents on the dollar

  41. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Wheeler needs to go. He stinks, He’s an ass. He wears a cheap toupee that looks like a dead squirrel on his head. And, he is a real aggressive drunk around women, especially. Overall, a complete disgrace and a boor. Otherwise, a decent fellow.

  42. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    my god this team is so friggin frustrating.

  43. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    It would be a real shame if we lost two of three or we get swept by the worst team in our division that stands 13 games below 500.

  44. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    prepare yourself Tortilla

  45. mark

    July 31, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    What a SHIIIteChoke team .


    Are you KIDDING me?


    July 31, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Got them right where we want them…….only 2 runs!!

  47. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Nobody like’s wheeler,but he’s been with this team forever I think if they were gonna get rid of him they would of by now…

  48. L.B.

    July 31, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    Sweep imminent. 2010 Offensive Slump, version 2.0 is in full force.

  49. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    Chooch is the man

  50. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:50 pm

    Homer for Ruiz

    Heres the bad news the Nats starter tomorrow also only has 2 wins for the year.
    Already been dominated by 2 starters with a combined 2 wins so far this series. Could get ugly.

  51. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Is that blanton batting ????????

  52. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:52 pm

    First time ive ever seen this.
    They say fat joe got intentionaly hit.

  53. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    nice try Joe

  54. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Now when you take blanton out we make it a 1 run game and he’ll come out and give up 2 runs…it happens all the time with blanton…

  55. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    you see the future?

    Charlie must not ever watch blanton pitch.

  56. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    and that starts the big Nats inning

  57. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    This play by play guy Bob carpenter for the Nats is to play by play what Wheels is to color. The worst in the league.

    Nice catch d brown

  58. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    nice grab D-brown


    July 31, 2010 at 8:59 pm


  60. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    nice DP

    Now lets get this phils

    score on this team

    Got the best PH ever sitting on the bench RH

  61. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    Ruiz doesnt try to hit homers. He does whats needed.
    hes the reason the phils are as good as they are. Last 2 nights not with standing.

  62. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Kate dont let Wheels taint Mccarthy.
    Mccarthy is fine possibly even good over time. Sarge could be too.

  63. Frank

    July 31, 2010 at 9:09 pm


  64. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:09 pm


  65. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Get some more. Got to win this guys.


    July 31, 2010 at 9:11 pm


  67. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    I feel bad for Tyler clippard seems like a good kid. Wish he was a Phillie.
    He certainly gave us the breath of life tonight.


    July 31, 2010 at 9:13 pm


  69. Dylan

    July 31, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    Wheeler shut up already!

  70. Frank

    July 31, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    TMac and Wheels are what they are to us and we’re stuck with them, but they’re fine compared to the Nats announcers…Carpenter sucks & Dibble is like a more blatant & obnoxious Larry Anderson…I mean we know LA is a Philly guy and he shows it, but Dibble was enough of an ass on the field, he doesn’t have to show it so much in the booth…


    July 31, 2010 at 9:20 pm



    July 31, 2010 at 9:26 pm


  73. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    I like dibble but I guess i am in the minority. I like Mccarthy and Sarge though too. I tend to like unless you are god foresaken bad like Wheeler and the Nats play by play guy.

  74. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    strike em out throw em out


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  78. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    When is Greg Dobbs contract up?

  79. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    Greg Dobbs is to hitting what Chris Wheeler is to broadcasting.
    Who do they both have photos of? Should both be part of the proud 10% of the unemployed.

  80. L.B.

    July 31, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Wow. This is the Nationals we’re playing, right? Ugh.


    July 31, 2010 at 9:53 pm



    July 31, 2010 at 10:00 pm

    VN 1-2-3!!!!

  83. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    D-Brown is going deep

  84. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    or not

  85. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Come on chooch get this run in…

  86. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Chooch is the man!!

  87. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    My boy does it again
    Ut oh
    Ledge time

  88. Frank

    July 31, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Mother frickin Chooch!!!

  89. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    CHOOCH BABY!!! Now lidge stands between us and a win…..

  90. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    On the Ledge, again.

  91. Frank

    July 31, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Alright Lidge…no walks outta you mofo


    July 31, 2010 at 10:12 pm


  93. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Retard nats announcer said they arent booing they are saying ruiz

  94. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    Here we go

  95. joe444

    July 31, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    thanks for not walking chooch, nats.

  96. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:15 pm

    Oh boy here we go…

  97. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Cant believe this really

  98. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    I think that might be the first time in history the phrase “a good call by C.B. Bucknor” was ever udder ed

  99. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    Mitch Williams and Brad Lidge have added at least a decade to my life. I am ten years older because of stress watching these two bone heads.

  100. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    this is pitiful

    where are the apologists?

    You can only get lucky so often

    hope he gets lucky again tonight but it is nto gonna last long term

  101. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    He cant throw the slider for a strike and his fastball sucks


  102. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Is Brad taking a blown save or a loss tonight??

  103. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    We dont have a big lead this year and we arent chasing the Mets
    We cannot over come this crap this year.

  104. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Lidge has got to go…

  105. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    I embarrassed

    I want to knwo where the assholes who were ripping me where last week when he sucked

  106. Terri

    July 31, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Instead of trading for Roy, Ruben should have gotten a closer.

  107. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    Can Charlie really let this continue for over a year and a half?

  108. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    really i swear to god i took crap last week when they were laughing as he sucked
    but hey he got it done

    hey man
    guess what

    this aint happening with this guy

  109. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    how many more?

    the 2 last week should have been blwon too

    how many more? cause it isnt gonna happen this year
    this isnt chasing the mets

    im sick

  110. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    How many times do you have to fail at your job before you lose it?!

  111. boxage

    July 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    i hate lidge. i really do. thanks for 2008 but you need to go. now.

  112. AC in NJ

    July 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Just leave Lidge in Washington, don’t let him on the team charter to the next town. Cut your damn losses now…this guy is a shell of himself.

  113. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    Tonya Harding time???

  114. Dave

    July 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    We all know Lidge sucks. He had one fluke good year. It’s our stupid managers fault for continuing to bring him in. If I managed the team, Lidge would only pitch when the Phillies were up by 10 runs.

  115. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:24 pm

    How can cholly and ruin continue to put this guy out the I’m getting sick of it….

  116. AC in NJ

    July 31, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    what was the speed on that pitch down the middle to Zimmerman? That thing was so straight, so in the middle it looked like a batting practice pitch. like a high school kid could hit it out.

    lidge is a piece of sh*t.

  117. Psujoe

    July 31, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Can’t read comments on my phone since the new server was implemented but lidge blows. Nobody can seriously stick up for him. Like the oswalt deal, but as much as the jays wanted Gose phils could’ve gotten Downs.

  118. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    Chuck I had to argue with people about him after the 2 saves last week. Both over 30 pitches which is a disgrace
    hey pitch count down tonight.
    so hes available tomorrow. Why not have the Nats sweep us

    Where is the idiot talking to me about RP WAR and SP WAR etc etc

    You dont win with this. Be one thing to be chasing the Mets but we arent. Id pull my pants down to have Kerry Wood be closing for the phils. but we picked up no relievers.
    Please the Lidge apologists come out of the woodwork again.

  119. wxdavid

    July 31, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    maybe this one will finally kill Charlie obvious deep sexual fixation with Brad Lidge

    2008 is a long time ago

  120. AC in NJ

    July 31, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    i agree with terri. amaro should have gotten a closer…this cannot go on. with the braves losing, it was a golden opportunity to make up the ground lost yesterday.

  121. nyc billy

    July 31, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Losers are losers. Never fails. Good one, Phils.

  122. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    They’ll never catch the braves if lidge is closing the games…any other manager would not let this guy close except the moron we got…

  123. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    The one out he recorded was a sacrifice bunt … A single, a walk, a walk-off homer. There wasn’t a doubt in my mind that he was blowing the save after the lead-off single. And he’s a rich man!

  124. Greg

    July 31, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    when is lidge’s contract over?

  125. "PHILLYBOY"

    July 31, 2010 at 10:28 pm


  126. robnewjersey

    July 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Brad — down the middle is not a good pitch.

  127. L.B.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    Disgusting. Nothing else can be said.

  128. Dave

    July 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    These games may not seem important with 2 months of ball to play, but if the Phillies lose the wild card by a couple games, they’re huge!

  129. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    i swear to god i had 10 people on this site telling me how wrong i was after the 2 straight 30 pitch saves last week.

    What is wrong with people?

    how many times? Wait till its the Braves

    Why even get Halladay and Oswalt? you CANNOT win withthis guy.
    With him clsoing the TEAM is irrelevant. Get it.

  130. SAM

    July 31, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    This is Charlie ‘Dumb-Dumb & Dumber’s’ fault. He see’s Lidge doesn’t have it … he puts two men on, he’s erractic and almost hits a guy before giving up a home run and blows another game. Charlie is always trying to prove to Lidge that he’s our closer!!! This is such BS … WE ARE IN A RACE FOR THE PENNANT Charlie!!! If the guy doesn’t have it … yank him … don’t do or die with this mental case!!! Charlie started Oswalt yesterday after a long trip from Huston and not ever having pitched to Ruiz. I blame dumb Charlie for that too!!!

  131. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    i wanted EVERY reliever out there. i mentioned every one by name. Id have given every one a chance to close. they cant be worse.
    Off to drink.
    See you tomorrow nation

    what a joke

  132. Greg

    July 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    that is demoralizing. whole team plays a great game. except blanton in the first. we manage to come back w/ a severely depleted line up and then that bonehead blows it. these are games that crush momentum,

  133. MikeB.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    How can you just serve a meatball, a lollipop, to Zimmerman over the heart of the plate? Should have gift wrapped it. Super big mistake by Lidge. I agree with those who post that this guy does not have it anymore and has to go. Cannot control the fast ball anymore and when he gets behind in the count, hitters just lay on the slider.

  134. jeff

    July 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    I have been saying it for two years. How they keeping use this guy. He is got to be the worst closer in the history of this game. You just lost two games to a joke team. two games. braves lost. we could of gained this game. lidge is not a closer. should not be out there. the only saves he gets are lucky saves. guys are crushing him. what a bad bad lose

  135. ChuckS

    July 31, 2010 at 10:31 pm

    Ricky Bo is fired up, and I love it

  136. Repeat

    July 31, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    Somebody needs to put a hit out on this dude. Straight up!

  137. robnewjersey

    July 31, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Post Game show — Ricky’s right — Who wants the job as the stopper.

  138. Tom from Frederick, MD

    July 31, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    As long as Lidge is the “closer”, you can forget about the playoffs. I’m at a loss as to why this organization continues to think he can get the job done. Lidge is most definitely working for everyone, but the Phils. Giving one back to Atlanta can only make the Braves feel more confident. They are really strong this year and need no gifts like this one. Wouldn’t you love to see Zimmerman in a Phils uniform. Oh well, I’ve gotten spoiled by the more recent success of this club.

  139. Tortilla Fats

    July 31, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Bring up Mathieson and either release Lidge or send him to the minors. He will cost us a playoff post. HE STINKS !!! HE’S FINISHED and HE’S EMBARRASSING HIMSELF and PISSING US ALL OFF.

  140. Dylan

    July 31, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    What has Lidge done for us since 2008? 15 blown saves? Check. Injured multiple times? Check. Multiple heartbreaks? Check. One of the worst moments in Philadelphia sports history by blowing Game 4 when we had all the momentum? Check. Blown saves to bad teams such as the Astros and Pirates? Check. Not admitting he’s just not that good? Check. By the way, nice job improving that bullpen before the deadline Ruben.

  141. Stuart

    July 31, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    I figured I would just repost what i posted on last nights game, its relevant after tonight.

    I am so frustrated with watching Amaro be a weak GM. Everyone is saying how cheap we got Oswalt and we practically stole him…but why did we even want him? We stole something we didnt want or need. Our starters were fine, we started winning games when our lineup starting hitting. What we NEEDED was a bullpen arm. The first time I even heard the Phillies were interested in Oswalt I was instantly saying no no no. We didnt need him, no body shouldve wanted him and I think a lot of people are going to be agreeing with me when October rolls around, whether were not playing, or our bullpen will be losing games.

  142. "PHILLYBOY"

    July 31, 2010 at 10:35 pm


  143. Keegan

    July 31, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    There’s nothing to be said that hasn’t already been said the last YEAR AND A HALF. Manuel has an inexplicable hard on for Lidge, and last year the division was bad enough that we could get to the WS with it but its not gonna cut it this year. Most obviously.

    But last year everyone was SCREAMING for a new closer, Lidge had the worst closer’s ERA/record in all of baseball and Manuel closed by committee…maybe two times? And they still have done nothing on the grounds of trading for one. He’s like the little sore spot that is so FREAKING OBVIOUS, but no one wants to address or fix because…he’s a good person?

    He’s killed the team since Opening Day ’09. We’re not gonna be able to get by with it that much longer. Tonight was proof. Now we have to avoid being swept by the Nationals.

    Obviously frustrated and who on this site wouldn’t be; we’ve had a HUMONGOUS problem on this team for almost two years now and for some reason no one affiliated with the team wants to address or fix it.

  144. MikeB.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Lidge was fortunate to get out of jams in his last 2 games and after those 2 games, with his history, you knew another blown game was right around the corner for this guy. He constantly flirts with disaster out there. Make a one on one trade for a reliever from another team ASAP and get this guy out of here.

  145. Filthydelphia

    July 31, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Bwhahahahahahahahaha!!! So sorry that your busloads of Filthy fans will be going home drunk and pissed off. Maybe they’ll vomit on each other like that loser Filthy fan who did it at YOUR OWN PARK to a father and his daughter.

    Eat it, Filthies.

  146. psujoe

    July 31, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Are the Phils a better team in 2010 with Happ, Downs, Figgy and Bastardo or Oswalt, Lidge, Herndon and Baez? You make the call.

  147. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    It was instantly clear, as I’m sure it was to Manuel, that he was going to blow it. Squeezing the fastball, begging the slider to get over when he needed a strike. Why not yank him after the walk? Why let it transpire as though you’re powerless to stop it?

  148. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    Mike B. — Who in their right mind would take Lidge in a trade, with his track record and inflated salary? Nobody. They should just eat the money — and the crow — and release him. Now.

  149. Brian

    July 31, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Lidge is an absolute joke at this point. The guy has zero confidence, why keep sending him out there? It’s a shame you can’t cut players in baseball!

  150. L.B.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Sad thing is, Lidge will remain the closer for the rest of the year. He will not be pulled from his role, and he’ll blow at least 4 more games this year, maybe even more. The Phillies will lose tomorrow to complete being swept, and never come closer than 2 games to the Braves. They will lose the wild card by at least 4 games and be the single most disappointing team in Philadelphia history. I’m not over reacting, I’m being honest. That 8-game winning streak was a mirage, having beaten the worst and third worst teams in the NL. The fourth worst team is too much for them Fightins. 2008 was lightning in a bottle, catching fire at the right time and getting it done. 2009 was an odd combination of no lead is ever safe and always find a way to win. 2010 is struggle at the plate and pray that a lead can be kept, if you can even get one. Ugh.

  151. psujoe

    July 31, 2010 at 10:43 pm


    Charlie becomes a deer in the headlights when it comes to lidge. Madson sucks as a closer, contreras was a gamer, but not the answer, Baez(LOL), Mathiason save rate in AAA is awful, so the only think left is obtain a closer or roll the dice.

  152. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    we never go out or scout a closer that has the fire and the mean mentailty who know they throws 97 plus and has a nasty off speed pitch

  153. Brian

    July 31, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    There isn’t a team in baseball that would let Lidge close games for them at this point! I’m not even sure I want to see him in relief at all!

  154. jeremy

    July 31, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    Mathieson throws hard but WAY to straight big leaguers will go yard on him over and over again. My vote goes to michael schwimer in AAA, he spilts saves with Mathieson and rarely has let’s downs, does have a heater like mathieson but had some nasty pitches that move all over

  155. David B

    July 31, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    this is as much on charlie – he ABSOLUTELY needed to yank lidge off the mound when zimmerman was coming up!!! it was obvious that lidge was struggling from the first hit and chooch’s visits to the mound… lidge may as well as had a neon sign on his head that said TAKE ME OUT. leaving him in was basically giving the game away so he could stand by his closer. outrageous.

  156. SAM

    July 31, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    I am so pissed!!! Lidge and Dobbs should be selling icecream bars in the stands not playing ball on the field. They both stink!!! We are not going to get to the playoffs if we keep blowing leads in the 9th. We need to get a bonafide closer or something close to it. Anything is better then Lidge!!!!

  157. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    lidge has talent ….but excuse my french but brade lidge is a ” PUSSY” he gets scraded and he wounder just got and throw gas then throw that nasty slider and then its on to the next guy …but he worries about adam dunn and walkin zimmerman he throws a fastball down the pipe to a 3 time all star…(shaking my Head)

  158. Phan in Atl

    July 31, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    this is a joke. Send Lidge down, release him, anything but ever rely on his sorry a$$ again. How does this guy face anybody on the team? If Charlie puts him in again in a save situation then he needs to go too. Get past this “He’s our guy, he’s our closer” bull$hit.
    I wanna see the team leaders step up and call Lidge out. They’ve worked too hard and overcome injury after injury, just to have this yahoo f*ck things up.
    Golden opportunity to get a game on Atl, and he blew it. Go find a bridge and jump off. Then we’ll christen it “The Lidge Bridge”.

  159. mark

    July 31, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Want worse new?,
    they wll get DOMINATED by LEfty Lannen tomorrow.


  160. Mets fan

    July 31, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    mets won 🙂

  161. Dylan

    July 31, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Man, I remember when Jose Contreras was saving earlier this year. How many did he blow? Like, none. MAYBE one. How many’s Bradley got? 4? 5?

  162. Repeat

    July 31, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Like my man Chris Carter once said on NFL Countdown ~take him out back and smok~em.

  163. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Amaro is to blame for not getting a closer when he has to know we need one…he’s to busy getting the big name guy on the market rather then getting what we need…I don’t think he will be the gm for a long time…oswalt is prolly thinking this is houston all over again when lidge was there…at least their manager had the balls to remove him from closing before they traded him…just pathetic…

  164. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    @Dylan…..thats because contreras is not afriad to blow his 95 plus fastball then when the hitter is tuned in for a fastballl he throws his nasty off speed stufff. thats a real closer and he is a 36 year old fomer stater

  165. "PHILLYBOY"

    July 31, 2010 at 10:55 pm


  166. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    how masny times charlie gonna say.” uhhh ya know lidge is uggghhh are closer and ummmm uhhhh were loyal and ummm uhhhh im confident)

  167. MikeB.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    12 men left on base tonight; Ibanez and Brown left 5 runners stranded each but to Ibanez’s credit, had a big 2-run HR. Ransom did nothing at the plate and left 3 runners; nothing on offense in place of Howard tonight. Early in game, could not get the one big hit. Lidge gave this one away but would help if this team could get on the board with some runs early in the game too to possibly alleviate tight late game situations.

  168. psujoe

    July 31, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    If you truely wanted to win now. Three team deal.

    Gose, Singleton, Herndon to the Jays.
    Happ, Villar and Wallace to the Astros.
    Oswalt, $11 million, Downs and $2 million from Jays to the Phillies.

    We know already that Houston would’ve done the deal. Would the Jays have traded Wallace and Downs for Gose, Singleton and Herndon.

  169. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Manuel’s “He’s our one and only closer” excuse just doesn’t cut it anymore. It can’t get any worse. He had all of last year to work out his issues. It’s clear to any sentient walking biped that he can’t do his job anymore. … Hell, what’s the use of ranting here. I can’t even think about sleep, I’m so disgusted.

  170. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 10:59 pm

    @ mikeB… not mad at howard …howard been are most cosestent bat and been carring use alll year so im not mad

  171. lidge needs to go

    July 31, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    hey who is worst jose mesa or lidge?

  172. Dylan

    July 31, 2010 at 11:05 pm

    Lidge. Cuz Mesa was good for more than a year.Let’s get the other Jose to close! ContRERASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS time! Cmon Cholly.

  173. SAM

    July 31, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Ruben Amaro tries to plug a leak at one end by aquiring Roy Oswalt but … he leaves a gusher at the other end with Brad Lidge. So, I ask you …. ‘What good is this trade going to do for us if we don’t plug up the other hole?’

  174. jt

    July 31, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    You think downs would clear waivers?they can still get him,but he has to clear waivers…they gotta do something this can’t go on lidge is done I would give him the money he is owed,say thank you for 08,but bye bye buddy…

  175. MikeB.

    July 31, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    lidge needs to go; not mad at Howard either but maybe should have been playing. Except for Lidge giving up the game, maybe Howard’s bat might have made the difference in this tight game tonight where the game might not have wound up so close at the end.

  176. Scott in D.C.

    July 31, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Just release the guy. He’s a spent force. He should just retire to his Colorado home, grow more facial hair, and keep studying Eastern spiritualism. Just keep him far, far from the baseball diamond.

  177. shaw69

    July 31, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Couldn’t agree more with “Keegan’s”above statement. Would like to add to it just a bit. Lidge’s performance is definitely lacking. The guy is lacking ALL SELF-CONFIDENCE!!!! I’m thinking the guy needs some Anxiety Medication and some one needs to tell him that he needs to breathe while he is on the mound!!!!! He knows he has blown yet, ANOTHER game…. for Charlie to put him in, even one more time this season…. is unconscionable!!!!

    Final Thought!!!….. Howard goes over 14 and is BENCHED for it……….
    Lidge pitches like Shit for a year and a half….. And gets to pitch like Shit for yet another night!!!

    I’ve always respected Charlie….. It sucks that I’m starting to doubt him after this whole Lidge fiasco!!!

  178. Repeat

    July 31, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Just get him the f/uck off the roster. .like right now. I dont wanna see him in a Phillies jersey. He no longer deserves to wear a Phillies uni. This isnt 1989. Things have changed. This team is about warriors. Not p.ussies that are afraid to challenge adam kennedy with a 3~2 fastball!

  179. SAM

    July 31, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Why is it that the Washington Nationals manager was pulling out all the stops to beat us by pulling pitchers, double switches etc. while Charlie Manuel sit’s in the dugout with a mouth full of bubble gum and sits idly by while Brad Lidge gives up a hit, a walk and has no control of his pitches. Any other manager would have yanked him after the walk. Why does it always have to be do or die when Lidge is pitching. Frig his self confidence and feelings … we’re supposed to be out to win ball games not pamper mental cases.

  180. MysteryMet

    August 1, 2010 at 12:13 am

    I think Charlie and Jerry Manuel are brother’s from another Mother, both are stubborn idiots, Charlie is just lucky he has a good team, other than that he’d be gone by last year, Jerry will be after this year.

  181. MysteryMet

    August 1, 2010 at 12:15 am

    I’m hearing the Mets will take will trade for lidge, cuz that’s what they do pick up teams sloppy seconds. LOL!!!!!!!!!!

  182. Brian Sr. of CO

    August 1, 2010 at 12:22 am

    Sorry Folks, I know this is a VERY unpopular opinion, but SAM is correct. Lidge is Charlies guy. Charlie went to get him, Charlie sticks with him, Charlie pushed for a new contract, Charlie sat there and watched him put two men on. Who didnt know that was going to happen? If you didnt think that was going to happen, I have a GREAT bridge for you to buy! Ricky Bottalico summed it up perfectly, “the team doesnt trust the closer, the bench doesnt trust the closer”. I cant imagine after the outings he has had lately in the closers role why, when he had 2 on, 1 out, he would stay with him. STUPID decision by Charlie. This game was ours. Imagine if we had a good closer? Wow, we would probably be in first place, but thats the difference between a 1st place team, and a 2nd place team. The first place team sadly has a closer. How many games have we lost because of a blown save, 6? Think about it. 6 games list because of the closers, 2 of them STARTED the 9th with a 4 run lead, and only became a “save” because of the backend of the bullpen. The season is not over, but Charlie continues to sit there as he watches “his closer” not be able to close out a game without a 3 run lead (and even that is safe) we will NOT make the playoffs, and forget about the division. We NEED a closer, we said it last season, we say it again this season. I know some want to blam RAJ, but RAJ isnt the one in the dugout watching Lidge choke. He has a GREAT 2008, a bad 2009, and a mediocre 2010 so far. He has done better in the non-save situations this season. As Charlie works on Lidges Self confidence, the rest of the team sees him comes out and they roll their eyes thinking CRAP, not again. As for “retire to Colorado”, GOD PLEASE NO! Maybe we can trade him to the Mets?

  183. Brian Sr. of CO

    August 1, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Well actually I guess I should clarify the Lidge sucks statement, he has blown 2 saves I believe at home in 2009 and 2010. That leaves what, 14 blown saves away?

  184. Repeat

    August 1, 2010 at 12:29 am

    Thats just his way. He did the same thing as the Cubs manager. Overkill managing that dont usually amount too much. Losing 2 in a row to a team dressed like the staff of a Sonic is humilating. Im surprised they werent wearing roller skates.

  185. jeff

    August 1, 2010 at 1:10 am

    He’s our closer,” Manuel said. “We’ve been working with him now for two years. I guess right now we’ve got to keep continuing to work with him. He has his moments.”

    Thats why Manuel should be fired. Lidge saying I feel great. Good go away you piece of crap. Should have one this game. What happen with Matt Capps Ruin tomorrow jr. You piece of crap.

  186. jeff

    August 1, 2010 at 1:12 am

    and dont feel to bad, nobody and i mean nobody are beating the yankees,.

  187. Greg

    August 1, 2010 at 1:31 am

    How are people blaming RAJ? We didn’t need a closer. We have one. His name is Jose Contreras, and in save situations, he was 3/3 (he does have a blown save, but he didn’t start the 9th, it was in Extra innings , the 10th.)

    The guy has loaded the bases this year, then struck out the side. He doesn’t blow his composure, Lidge does. Manuel needs to stop effing around with his bullpen “roles”, and just put whomever gets the job done out there. The Nats gave us this win, then Lidge and Manuel, not RAJ, handed it right back to them. What if Lidge had pitched the 7th? Let’s assume he gets out of it. Then Contreras, a guy who didn’t struggle at all as closer, could perhaps have had a better chance. I believe he faced the same batters, not 100% sure, but guess what, he didn’t give up any ER.

  188. Repeat

    August 1, 2010 at 2:26 am

    I beg to differ. Yanks can add all the hitters they want. Remember those rangers teams that never got out of the 1st round? Aj burnt and the crew got issues. Yanks are vukn in a best of 5. Esp texas. Nl got hf. Lance berkmans only a pinch hitter 4/7 potential ws games. U need 2 great pitchers to knock the yanks off. Last yr we had only 1. Now we gnt 3.

  189. mark

    August 1, 2010 at 7:50 am

    Howard needed a rest . He’s been horrible last 8 games.

    .150 average, tons of strikeouts.

  190. Dave

    August 1, 2010 at 8:41 am

    If the Phillies miss the playoffs. Manuel should be fired. With the talent that’s oozing out of this roster there’s no reason they shouldn’t win. There’s an easy way to fix Brad Lidge – DON”T USE HIM!

  191. Lefty

    August 1, 2010 at 10:05 am

    @Greg – Exactly- I’ve been saying that all year. He did throw one really bad pitch to Nate McClouth in Atlanta to lose a game, but otherwise he has for the most part pitched well, and just looks a lot more like a closer to me. He has that demeanor, that killer instinct on his face. I’d certainly like to give him a few more shots at closing.

  192. Lefty

    August 1, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Also(again and again I question this) why let Blanton hit in the fifth when you know that he will self destruct in the sixth or seventh. On the Nationals broadcast last night they clearly pointed out that when a lineup reaches it’s third rotation against him in mid to late games opposing hitters are batting .372! After facing him twice, they figure him out, or he gets tired or something. Cholly has to know this, the Nationals knew it and they’ve seen him what-twice this season?. Cholly has to get the intel and use it. Maybe he gets pressured by upper management to keep him in games due to salary?? Maybe the BP has pitched so badly he doesn’t think he has a choice?

    If he’s going to let Blanton bat before his third time around in the opposing lineup, you might as well let Contreras bat after he has a 1-2-3 innning.

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