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Phillies Continue to Struggle in Pittsburgh

The Phillies seem to have a mystifying inability to hit bad Pirates pitching. This is not a new phenomenon–for instance, on April 8, 2004, Ryan Vogelsong, who won 10 games over parts of 8 major league seasons and owns a career ERA of 5.89, gave up a single earned run over 7 innings, throwing 98 pitches, 71 of them for strikes, in a 6-2 win over a superior Phillies team. That trend continued this evening, as the Phillies managed only 2 runs off Daniel McCutchen, who came into the game with an shoe-size ERA of 11.00. Five relievers finished the job for the Bucs, including Evan Meek, who pitched two scoreless innings and, it is rumored, will inherit the Earth.

McCutchen gave up two runs, only one of the earned, in 5 1/3 innings, as the Phillies offense continued its sabbatical. One run came on Wilson Valdez’s third-inning solo homer, a Paris Gun shot that cleared the 410 sign in center. The other came on a throwing error in the fifth.

Cole Hamels, for his part, pitched well enough to win, going 7 innings and allowing one run each in the second, third, and fourth innings. Hamels struck out eight and allowed only five hits and two walks, one of each to Jose Tabata, who scored the Pirates’ first run and singled in Adam LaRoche the eventual game-winner in the fourth inning.

The loss dropped Hamels to 6-7 on the season, and left the Phillies two games behind the first-place tie between the Mets and Braves Mets and another two behind the Braves. They are now 11-18 at PNC Park and 1-3 on their 7-game Post-Industrial Wasteland Road Trip to Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

Tomorrow night, Jamie Moyer will try to right the ship tomorrow evening against righty Ross Ohlendorf, who comes into the game with an 0-6 record and, if recent trends are any indication, will probably throw a four-hit shutout.



  1. Jeff

    July 1, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Why dont you talk about no rbis on this road trip 1 through 5. amazing.

  2. EricLindros

    July 1, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Um, the Phils are 2 games behind the Mets who are, themselves, two games behind the Braves. So they’re four games out. You were probably looking at wild card standings.

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  4. Mark B

    July 1, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    This team is pathetic. Boohoo we can’t hit because jimmy is hurt. Boohoo we can’t hit because Chase is hurt. How could the five core players go 3 for 20 against a pitcher with an ERA over 11 especially when the rest of the lineup goes 5 for 12. There is something fundementally wrong with this team. There has been for 3 years. It’s just more profound this year. I could accept them not doing as well this year because of the injuries but not when the players that aren’t hurt are not playing up to potential. I lived through many bad years in the 60’s and mid 90’s but based on the talent level you could expect it. This is worse when the team doesn’t play up to expectations. We keep saying that the team is going to snap out of it but as more games go by the likelihood increases that they won’t.

  5. Ted Bell

    July 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Mark B – Do you even read the nonsense you write??

    “There is something fundamentally wrong with this team. There has been for 3 years.”

    Really?? The last three years have resulted in three division titles, two NL pennants, and one World Championship. Yeah, a lot of teams would love to have those fundamental problems. Please spare us any more of your words of wisdom. You’re making yourself look like a clown.

    The Domonic Brown era needs to begin very soon…

    I’m Ted Bell.

  6. Andrew from Waldorf

    July 1, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    Just what I was thinking Ted.
    I wish I had the feeling I had the last 2 years. Sadly I dont.
    How could Dom Brown in right field make this team any worse?
    It couldnt. We need new blood. Period. Bring him up or make a trade.

  7. Manny

    July 1, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Hamels was very good today… and we couldn’t win.

    We need a win tomorrow.

  8. Sherry in Philly

    July 1, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    Dom Brown needs his full time getting ready for the big leagues. What would happen to him if he was brought in too soon and choked?

  9. PaulyPizza

    July 1, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    how can we lost to the Pirates? i know it’s baseball, any given team can , blah blah blah, but , but , it’s the PIRATES!

  10. mark

    July 1, 2010 at 11:58 pm

    I see some intersting parallels between the Phillies and Eagles.

    The Eagles entered last season as one of the best, if not THE best , team in teir division. Everything broke bad and they ended the season the worst team in the division . They decided to blow it up ad traded the face of the franchise, Mcnabb.

    Not saying they will end up the worst, but they are likely to be 4th.
    The face- of -the -franchise player that might go is Rollins.
    His skills are deteriorating as evidence by his drop in production last year that figures to get worse again.

    He’s an 8 hole hitter masquerading as #3 guy right now.He’s just KILLINg the Phillies .

  11. Nunzio Scholeri

    July 2, 2010 at 12:10 am

    The Phillies are always terrible in Pittsburgh, and always fall asleep against atrocious pitching. These constants have held true for years.

    The Phillies have often held a reputation as a team that will surprise you, but unfortunately they take this too literally and surprise you by losing to terrible pitchers on terrible teams whenever possible.

    I saw the perfect storm of high-ERA pitching in Pittsburgh and knew right away that the Phillies’ bats would be useless this weekend. Ugh.

  12. bacardipr05

    July 2, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Ted Mark has a point though…Maybe his wording is a little off…but Pheast or Phamine…The Phils have a tough time playing small ball…and yes this has been a weakness for the last 3 years…Only this year it seems to be worse…as this year they have lost the ability to make a come back even against an inferior team…With guys like Howard, Werth, Rollins, Victorino you wouldnt think…Werth an Howard strike out a bunch lets face it..Victorino has struggles..the bottom of the line up has been carrying this team…

  13. Mark B

    July 2, 2010 at 12:26 am

    bacardipr05 thanks for clarifying my point about their inconsistent hitting over the last 3 years, their reliance on home runs and their inability to play small ball. I don’t mean to diminish their success despite this but tonight’s game was extremely frustrating. Sorry you couldn’t get my point Ted Bell so you can ignore my post’s and be spared from my words of wisdom.

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  15. Jeff

    July 2, 2010 at 1:45 am

    sherry baby, d brown is ready. the man is now 22 years old. he is killed in the farm. you need his energy. raul is a joke. get rid of him. release him and stick d in the outfield or leave raul and trade werth. get some pitching and a everyday player for werthless.

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  17. nymetsguy47

    July 2, 2010 at 2:02 am

    Haha last years and the year before wus a fluke da sillies r dun and ain’t gonna do jack for least 10 years!!! NA NA, NA NA NA, HEEEEYYY GOODBYEEEE

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  23. Skip Pennington

    July 2, 2010 at 6:33 am

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  24. SpinJamin

    July 2, 2010 at 8:31 am

    I have to agree with getting rid of Raul or at least stick him on the bench for a month. Think he’d accept an assignment to the minor leagues? Only in my dreams I know. The guy is KILLING us worse than Pat Burrell ever had. Too many times do I see Werth getting walked or not seeing pitches because all the pitchers know Werth will either strike himself out trying too hard or if they walk Werth then Ibanez won’t do a damn thing. We know this team has the talent, but they also need a spark and when a guy getting paid $10 mil a year continually doesn’t contribute in big spots I think it affects the team in negative ways. The same guys can’t do it all every night. Please put Raul on the bench. Benny “Franchise” is more than adequate to play every day. He’s at least worth a shot. How much worse than Raul could he be?

  25. mark

    July 2, 2010 at 9:02 am

    I’ve asked that question numerous times. How could Francisco possibly be worse than .230 w/ no power?

    My feeling is that they want to bring Brown up, but they don’t want any lingering questions that they pulled the the plug on Ibanez too soon.

    Also, the Phillies are a class organization;I don’t think they want to make Ibanez look like a scapegoat because basically every position player on the roster is having a down year.

    Howard, for example, is going to end up 15-20 homers DOWN from last year .

    Utley, pre-injury , was on course for a stunningly poor year.

    And Rollins? He’s looking like a guy who wants to get under the Mendoza by the ALL-star break. Just brutal.

    How bad is it? I have tix to the Braves July 6th and I can’t get any takers.

  26. george55

    July 2, 2010 at 11:15 am

    yes, yes, and yes it’s time to pull the fire alarm. first off it’s the Hackers, not phillies. After last night’s stupid comment about how he left a man on third on a strikeout “looking”, Shane will be forever known as Shane ” I thought it was a ball” Victorino. Chase “play thru pain” Utley.. Ryan “money bags” Howard or “nest egg” Howard; or “fat, dumb and happy” Howard ; Raul “off the juice” Ibanez; J.C. “Wild man” Romero. You see fans hit the deck when he pitches because you don’t know where it will go. Danny “No talent” Baez or “I need a new day job” Baez…He was passed along from Little League on up and no one had the guts to tell him he needs to flip burgers… Werth has a good one already (werthless). Maybe if he shaved that raggady-a__sed “attitude” beard he just might hit again. He knows he’s in the next trade, why put out? Jimmy ” I don’t know how to warm up” Rollins; “psycho Hamels” is already etched; Bastardo…what can I say?…He is; Ryan “placekicker” Madson; Brad “Heart Attack” Lidge or Brad ” I felt good out there after my second BS” Lidge; J.A. “hapless or hopeless” Happ; Roy “I wish I was back in Toronto” Halladay

  27. shag beta sigma delta

    July 2, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Cole pitched a great game last night, he had that error by Wilson Valdez trying to do too much instead of just getting the out, but Cole did not get flustered like he did last year, and pitched a really good game without his best change-up all night. There are a few bench decisions I did not get, He was pitching great but down on run in the top of the seventh you have to pull the guy for a hitter, I know no one here trust the Phillies bull pen, but this is the Pirates and even this bull pen can get 9 outs against them, you have to play to win the game. Second how do you bunt the tying run over in the 9th, if you are worried that GIDP Valdez is going to do that you bring in Fransisco and let him swing away, I do not care it is righty righty there, the guy is a fastball hitter and that is all Dotel has. You have to take chances when you 2 of your 3 best hitters are on the DL.
    Also didn’t the Mutts lose last night, so really the Phillies are only 1 back in the loss column to them and 3 to the Braves.
    I know they are playing bad now, and Chase is pretty much gone until September, but doesn’t that say something for this team still very much in the division and wild card race half way through the season, and not playing anywhere near what they are capable of doing.
    I do think they need to get someone to replace Chase for the next two months, and I do not know who or where. I know I am alone on the faith of the front office boat, but I think RAJ will surprise with something, will it work, do not know, but he will do something.

  28. shag beta sigma delta

    July 2, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    One more thing I forgot to mention, Howards’ at bat I think it was the 8th or 9th, they were trying to pitch around him, and he swung a breaking pitch that hit the ground in front of the plate on the second pitch and then 3-2 swung at the same pitch, he has to take the walk there, I think maybe with Chase and Polly out the 3-4-5 guys are just pressing too much.

  29. mark

    July 2, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Oh right, he NEVER normally chases breaking balls out of the stike zone.

  30. The Original Chuck P

    July 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    So much for that sweep…

    I said this before the season and I’m sticking to it… IF the Phillies are out of it in September, we’ve gotta get something for Jayson Werth. If we’re not going to be able to bring him back, we’ve gotta think about moving him and getting something for him (prospects over draft picks, every day of the week). If we can get Dan Haren who is under contract for the couple of years by moving Werth to obtain better prospects (prospects that would be required for Dan Haren), I think that we have to do it. I’m not bailing on this season because it is far from over BUT I think that getting Dan Haren and moving Werth (starting Dom Brown) is a smart move for this team over the long run.

  31. The Original Chuck P

    July 2, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    How the eff is anyone complaining about Ryan Howard? He ranks 5th in the NL in hits, 6th in total bases, 5th in runs scored and 6th in RBI…

  32. Aaron

    July 2, 2010 at 8:49 pm

    through 5 2/3 … 4 hit shutout… sob

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