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Halladay and Phils Cruise to 8-4 Win

Roy Halladay could really get used to pitching against the National League, especially the Mets. In four starts this season, Doc is 4-0 against our neighbors to the north.

With tonight’s 8-4 victory he improved his record to 18-10 – the most wins by a Philadelphia pitcher since John Dehnny’s 19 in 1983. Unfortunately his ERA jumped to 2.36 after allowing four earned runs over seven and two-thirds innings.  Halladay has pitched 6+ innings in the past 53 road games, which is the most since the great Walter Johnson went 82 games beginning in 1911. Finally, in the Cy Young watch, the Phils ace tied Jimenez and Wainwright for the league lead in wins and recorded his 200th strikeout of the season on his way to the league lead at 201.

Halladay even got into the action at the plate knocking in 2 runs to put the Phillies ahead for good with a single in the fourth. In fact, everyone except for Placido Polanco recorded a hit with Carlos Ruiz leading the way going 3-for-3 with 2 walks. Both Ryan Howard and Chase Utley hit solo homers. The oppo-boppo (are we still saying that?) was Howard’s 29th of the season and 251st of his career – putting him in a third place tie with Pat Burrell on the Phils’ all-time list.

All-in-all it was a solid win to start the weekend series against the Mets. The Braves beat the Cardinals by a score of 8-6.

In other news:

  • Kyle Kendrick was announced as Sunday’s starter
  • Jimmy Rollins will be on the bench tomorrow, but his right hamstring remains sore – he likely will not play. Wilson Valdez had an RBI and GIDP in tonight’s game.
  • Brad Lidge will be available after hyperextending his right elbow last Saturday. He threw with Rich Dubee before the game for the second time this week and said he felt good. Ryan Madson pitched for the second consecutive night.


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  2. Greg

    September 11, 2010 at 2:24 am

    I thought Ryan Howard had 251 Career Homeruns, not 281.

  3. Brian Michael

    September 11, 2010 at 2:34 am

    You’re right. I thought so too, but for some reason mlb.com said 281.

  4. Andrew from waldorf

    September 11, 2010 at 3:04 am

    Its 251

    Phils still having best record in national league. Thats a huge deal.
    8 wins in a row for colorado. I really dont want to play them and if the Phils fo you want a 7 game series and you must have home field.
    SF and SD are now tied for the lead and Colorado is only 2.5 back.
    Its not looking good for the padres. Cardinals are done. timmys been better lately if hes Cy Timmy they may be tough. Pat the bat is on fire. The bomb he hit 2 nights ago was insane.

    Valdez has been a savior.
    I wont be able to see saturdays game. that sucks. Thanks Fox

  5. Nunzio Scholeri

    September 11, 2010 at 3:23 am

    Found myself in the car this evening, and turned on the radio literally just as Howard hit his solo homer, sparking that rally. Good times. Larry and Scott were in rare form, even for them. Those two crack me up, and even when the Phils are losing, listening to personalities like that keeps a smile glued to my face. When they’re winning (like tonight), that smile just happens to be wider.

    On the extreme opposite end of the commentator-competence spectrum, I checked out some of the video highlights and noticed that although we’re in freakin’ September, Sarge STILL hasn’t figured out that Halladay’s name isn’t Holiday. I mean usually Sarge is just interminably boring, but not knowing how to pronounce the name of your team’s ace is just downright unprofessional.

  6. loupossehl

    September 11, 2010 at 3:54 am

    Madson is tottering on the brink of overuse, and Lidge has one problem or another with his right elbow. So KK gets the next start … and goes, say, 5 innings, or 6-7 if we get lucky.

    Then what?

  7. ActuallyChilled

    September 11, 2010 at 5:29 am

    word on the holiday. its not like he’s even some guy thru the phils system, hes like a known awesome pitcher across the whole mlb. thats like saying bary ‘bands’

  8. jeff of Nova

    September 11, 2010 at 7:42 am

    Lets relax about Madson he is not being overused. He was on the 60 day DL for kicking a chair!

    His innnings are way down in fact he is one of the freshest arms in the pen.

    Yeah pitching consectutively is not great for anyone, but remember he has experience as a starter as well, so he will be fine pitching an inning a game.

    I really believe that Lidge is fine more worried about JRoll. We shall see we KK to get back to his prior form where he goes 6 or 7 only giving up 2 or 3 runs.

    Our bats have come alive look out NL

  9. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 8:42 am

    KK has shown that he does not belong here, especially in the midst of a September run. His last 4 outings are indication enough for most of us.

    So, if (or should I say when) KK melts early, how many runs will Chollly allow him to spot the Muts? 3, 5? And when he does finally decide to pull KK does Worley become a factor?

    I’m not saying Worley is the answer but, what he showed on Monday was a tun better than what we have seen from Kyle anytime lately.

    Jeff – sure Madson has been rested – but, his innings are pretty well bunched up as of late. He has been the constant goto and I suppose Cholly might reason “who else do I got?”.

  10. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 8:48 am

    The Phils have taken a commanding position and still aren’t playing the best baseball night in night out but the depth in the roster is really showing.

    The Cy Young race has me on tender-hooks now and as far as I can see it’s between Halladay and Wainwright who’s numbers have both taken a hit in the last week or so. One great start or one bad one in the final couple of starts may just decide who wins and I wonder if the Cards might squeeze another start in for Wainwright considering the position their in… Thoughts?

  11. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am

    I hope Worley is ready in case Charlie does have to pull the early plug on Kendrick. But I have a feeling they won’t have to. It’s been a while since we’ve seen the good KK , so maybe today?

    But 5 runs is the limit in my mind, the Cards have thrown their best at the Braves and it’s not good enough. Braves take the next two, bank it.

  12. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Brooks I think you being a little harsh on Kendrick, while I don’t think he goes into spring with his place in the rotation guaranteed, he’s had a good season and deserves the chance to finish out his season. My opinion would differ if we had to win in his starts but when you have a league-best record with two-ish weeks to go I’m not worrying about our 5th starter and I think continuity takes precedent.

  13. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 8:59 am

    Are you supposing an option for the Cards (yes, they are done) would be to not let Wainwright pitch on the chance that he could win this years CY in the NL?

  14. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 9:01 am

    before his last start KK completed at least 5 innings in giving up no more than 4 runs in 3 of those starts, it’s not good but expecting good consistently is expecting too much, consistently decent is all that should be expected from a 5 and for the most part he’s been that, even recently.

  15. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 9:04 am

    No I meant more they won’t admit their done and if they claw back to 2/3 games behind I wouldn’t be surprised to see Wainwright make one more start that Halladay.

  16. The Dipsy

    September 11, 2010 at 9:06 am

    NJ – Your comments on a three man rotation for the post season?

    The Dipsy

  17. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 9:07 am

    NJ- Although from a personal standpoint I think ERA,SO, CG,SH, WHIP and all the other stats are more important, I think in the end when the Cy Young is voted on, WINS will be the determining factor. It’s not really a fair way to do it, but I believe the NL candidates are so close this year that that is what it will come down to.

  18. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 9:11 am

    NJ, KK did give us a number of terrific outings, no one can deny that but we are in the middle of a heated division race and what you say is true, we are in front, we do have the best record in baseball but guess what? 1 loss and 1 win by the Braves and we’re tied again. I was at the 8/21 game, 5.2 IP, 9 hits, 4 walks and 5 runs – I was at the 8/26 game, 6 IP, 9 hits, 4 runs (probably his best outing since mid August) – and at the 9/05 game where Fielder hit that mortar shot in the first inning, 4 IP, 7 hits, 1 walk and 5 runs… he is looking bad. Try Worley, have a short leash – give us something.

    The Cards don’t have a day off for the remainder of the season. They play 23 games/days in a row. I would not think any team on a professional level would stop putting your best pitcher out there, regardless of the situation. After all, the roll of spoiler is key in baseball and the Cards have 2 more games left vs Atlanta, 4 vs SD and finish the season with 4 at home vs Colorado – tough schedule to boot. He plays.

  19. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Lefty, your namesake is true to your statement – look at Lefty back in 72. Although that year was truly one of the best as far as an individual achievement.

    The recent performances by the CY candidates make the voting even more difficult for sure.

  20. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 9:31 am

    First off, my name sake is baseball god to me.

    But he didn’t just win the CY because of 27 out of the teams 59 wins, he dominated almost statistical every category. I’m saying this year that wins will decide it regardless, in Doc’s case for instance, of how many pitching categories he leads in. And that’s a shame, but hopefully he can pull off a few more wins so it’s moot.


  21. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 9:37 am

    I think it is inevitable that at some point over the next three weeks we will relinquish the lead maybe even for a few days. Most on this board will do what they normally do, panic and begin virtually replacing everyone on the team and in manangement.

    The Braves aren’t going away people, it’s a back and forth dogfight for the rest of the season. get used to it.

    (I sure would like to be wrong about this.)

  22. Ken

    September 11, 2010 at 9:49 am

    I think its irrelevant who wins the Division. Im pretty sure the wild card is coming out of the nl east so regardless of whether we are #1 or 2 it doesnt make much difference because there is really no incentive to win a division. They should make the WC team only get 1 home game in the 1st round to make winning a division special again….

  23. betasigmadeltashag

    September 11, 2010 at 10:45 am

    I would have to disagree, Ken, it does matter, Home field matters, especially if you end up going to Colorodo, or San Fran. I would not worry that much about going to Cinncy, or San Diego. But I think The Padres are feeling the heat. Also I am not sold that the WC will come out of the East. The Phillies should win the division, it is going to come down to winning 4 or 5 out of the 6 games they play against the Braves. And winning at least one of the next 2 against the Mets, then winning every series here on out, will win the division.
    I am not a KK hater but, I do think Charlie, and Dubie should have just have the top four pitchers pitch every 5th day. But I think Charlie is trying to not have KK pitch against the Braves. The Mets are pretty much a AAA team right now, so I can see KK going 6/7 and giving up 3/4 runs, with the Phillies scoring 5-8 runs getting the win.

  24. loupossehl

    September 11, 2010 at 11:50 am

    The way things are going, the Padres (unfortunately) are about to be run over by both the Giants and Rockies. Both Giants and Rockies (unfortunately) are playing better ball than the Braves, who are wobbly. This all means, that – at the present pace – the WC comes not out of the East, but the NL West. The Phillies had better keep the heat on and play their best, because the story in our division may well be, “you win the NL East or your’re done.”

    I think this all may impact the Cy Young. If it comes down pretty much to a dead heat between Wainright and Halladay, then the one who gets a bit of a tailwind is the pitcher for the club that makes the NLCS. The Cardinals are done; if the Phillies are in, I see Halladay winning (presuming the above mentioned dead heat), on “style points.”

    Of course, all of this right now is a bit academic in the sense that the best pitcher in baseball, right now and over the past few weeks, has been Cole Hamels.

  25. biz

    September 11, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Our brilliant manager, who manages our guys, who our guys love, who love to play for him, even though they took 2 months off this season, he really motivates them, cause he’s a players kind of manager, and they respect him, and they won’t play for a normal manager, who is intelligent, who can speak English, who doesn’t drink moonshine in the dugout, cause they love Charlie, and he’s their guy, cause he’s a players manager, and the players love playing for him, yeah, that guy, he’s going to put KK on the mound and give the Braves a free one. Did I mention the players love him?

  26. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    Biz, I checked and you just got a 0.00 on the Flesch-Kincaid readability scale.

    Very funny, I was ready for wheels to ask him the next question.

  27. jason in burbank

    September 11, 2010 at 12:12 pm

    i had to laugh at the comment about sarge not being able to pronounce halladay. when the phils were here in LA playing the dodgers, vin scully (who i think is great) said in one game: jimmy rolands, chase utlaw, and bryan howard…i don’t fault the guy, i think his age is getting to him. but i had to laugh

  28. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    Ken, home field doesn’t matter?
    Seriously? Our players say it matters – good enough for me.

    Lefty, you are correct, that season Immortalized the name. He had great seasons after that (oh yeah, a few CY too) but no body can touch what he did in 72.

  29. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Lefty- on the wins factor for the CY it’s going to be too close between Halladay and Wainwright to be a factor. Halladay getting hit some his last couple of starts seems to have put Wainwright ahead in the peripherals

    Brooks- I don’t disagree on your view on Kendrick I just think he’s the best option to start right now and I’d rather have him on a short leash than a rookie considering where the Phils are. That said I wouldn’t be against sending KK to the pen to see how effective he could be situationally in October…

    Dipsy- I would only like to see us go to a 3 man rotation if we’re down and have no choice. Certainly in the NLCS I would be very comfortable sending Blanton out for a game 4 against a pitcher who’ll likely have less credentials and play-off experience. As much as I want the best man on the mound, a guys never at his best on short rest so I’d trust Cole and Blanton not to force the issue unless absolutely necessary to salvage the series.

    Whats your thoughts on the 3-manner?

  30. Lefty

    September 11, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    40% chance of thunderstorms in ATL- Maybe areas getting the Cards-ATL Fox feed still have a chance to get Phils instead.

  31. Ken

    September 11, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    You guys know I hate Bobby Cox right ?? I want no part of the Braves in the playoffs…. they scare me/ Also San Diego now appears to be reeling. I agree San Fran would be more dangerous in their ball park. Im pulling for San Diego to get hot again but San Diego is running on fumes. They may be facing an epic collapse. Who would have thunk that a month ago ? We have 3 weeks to go. A lot of crazy stuff can happen.

  32. David

    September 11, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    I have been critical of Valdez in the past but he has done better in the second half of the year. He is walking occassionally now and got a walk with the bases loaded last night. He has been solid defensively at either second base or shortstop.

  33. Brooks

    September 11, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Ken, if the Braves make it to the playoffs, we would not face them until the NLCS if at all and that would mean the Braves would have to be the away team with either Colorado, SF or maybe Cincy as the home team. Either way, the Braves really don’t stand a chance.

  34. biz

    September 11, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    David – So you’ve been critical of Valdez, how have you been towards Rollins? You do realize that Valdez is a backup, right? And before Jimmy’s surge last week, he had better numbers pretty much across the board the J-Roll. Valdez started the season as a backup to a backup, remember Juan Castro? Yeah. Anyways, if you’re really picking faults with a 3rd string guy who has played his butt off and been a major reason the Phillies didn’t fall off the map in the first 2/3 of the season, I have to question your baseball knowledge. Pretty lame nit-picking going on, dude.

  35. Ken

    September 11, 2010 at 3:51 pm

    Brooks dont underestimate a Bobby Cox team. This guy hates Philadelphia and would like nothing better than to stick it to the Phillies … Its his last year in the Majors and his team is going to go all out to send him out on a high note. I am VERY concerned about Atlanta and COX !

  36. Andrew from waldorf

    September 11, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    Madson is like has like the 2nd most games appeared in since he came back. We dont want to be those guys
    Joe Torre always does this and it ruins players.
    Madson in a game with more than a 3 run lead is wrong.
    Yes his innings are down. He was on the 60 day DL.
    He was showing fatigue last night off an off day. It made no sense

  37. Andrew from waldorf

    September 11, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    Sacred of the braves and the WC comes out of the east? LOL

    Rockies, colorado
    Giants, San fransisco

    Google them. And thier recent history then look at the Braves last 10 or 15 games.

  38. Andrew from waldorf

    September 11, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    The 3 man rotation stuff is so funny.
    The old man has never done it before. But somehow he will do it now?
    Unless the team is down or facing elimination The old man wont be considering it. And thats 100% the correct way to be.

  39. NJ

    September 11, 2010 at 4:21 pm

    the thing about the 3 man rotation is your not throwing out the same guy as the first game, it’s a hell of a risk so it’s only worth doing if you have no choice, Blanton is a choice…

  40. bacardipr05

    September 11, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    We have to lean hard on our Aces and our 2 most reliable bullpen pitchers. JC cant be trusted Baez cant be trusted Herndon is still young and has a way to go. I just hope Madson and the rest of the guys can hold up and wont be overused. The lack of a middle relief type of guys is catching up to us….Figgy should of been kept I feel….

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