An Ugly NLCS by the Numbers – Phillies Nation

An Ugly NLCS by the Numbers

You’re looking for a shakeup, but Charlie Manuel doesn’t work that way. After watching the Phillies lineup plunge back into the depths of their oft-seen slumps this year, there needs to be a mix-up, right? Don’t bet on it.

Going into Game 4 tonight, you’ll be lucky to see a switch like Ben Francisco in for the struggling Raul Ibanez. Manuel already spoke his peace following last night’s game saying it’s too late for any moved to be made. You go with what got you here, Charlie says. That faith in his players has served him, and them, quite well for several seasons now. I expect to see that same lineup trot out there again this evening.

However, it’s not just Ibanez having a down postseason. As a unit, 2-for-19 with runners in scoring position is on the lot of them. All players in the lineup are guilty of flopping at an inopportune time. Take a look:

Shane Victorino: 2-for-11 in the series with one extra base hit and one steal. Not exactly what you want to see from your leadoff hitter.

Chase Utley: A error that wasn’t in Game 3, plus a few really bad at-bats that resulted in weakly grounded balls. Utley 1-for-10, although he does have three walks and two steals. HIs presence has been felt on the basepaths, but that’s about it.

Placido Polanco: 2-for-11 with no walks. The patience that made him so valuable is missing.

Ryan Howard: He’s 4-for-11 with two doubles. The problem is, he hasn’t knocked in a run, meaning there is little power. This from a guy who six home runs over the past two postseasons. Unacceptable in that regard, although he’s really the only Phillies player somewhat-consistently getting on base.

Jayson Werth: Although he does have five strikeouts and has looked lost at times at the plate (including throwing his bat like he had walked on a ball right down the middle) his three walks almost make up for that. Werth’s 2-for-9 at the dish is sad, but who’s numbers aren’t right now?

Jimmy Rollins: He had the hardest hit ball in Game 3, smashing one off the wall in the ninth off Brian Wilson. But he still doesn’t look right. All of J-Roll’s damage was done in Game 2 when he knocked in four runs. Do you move him to the leadoff spot if he’s the only guy who has done anything with runners in scoring position this series? Tough call.

Raul Ibanez: He’s mired in an 0-for-14 slump, including 0-for-11 in this series. There have been calls made to put Ben Francisco in the lineup as a shot of life, but that’s a pipe dream. Charlie will stick by his guy, even though his bat looks considerably slower. Ibanez has just one walk and five strikeouts. Would a move to eighth spark him?

Carlos Ruiz: Hard to find much to bitch about with Chooch. He’s been handling the pitching staff the way he normally does, which gives him an edge over most of the guys. He and Werth are the only two with home runs in this series, but he also has been aboard just twice. Top to bottom it’s ugly.

You should be used to this, right? It’s what we’ve seen all year. Perhaps they just peaked too early – at the end of the regular season as they were locking up the National League East? That momentum hasn’t really carried into the playoffs offensively, even though they found a way to score 13 runs against Cincinnati. That final tally was more a mirage than anything; it was clearly the Reds defense that aided them in scoring all of those runs.

So, the options are basically limited. At some point, one or two of these guys has to pick up the slack. But in case they don’t, you’re already prepared for it.



  1. CHRIS

    October 20, 2010 at 9:54 am

    “go with what got you here” Jimmy rollins didn’t get you there. Valdez should be playing. I’m not saying that they would be up right now, but Charlie needs to think before he speaks. Rollins didn’t do squat to get this team where they are now. The guy who played that part is on the bench….

    All in all this team is not the best Phillies team ever. They are the most inconsistent team ever! They may be the best pitching team the phillies have ever had, but they are definitly not the best offensive team.

    They need to man up and play aggressive now if they want to get by the Giants.

  2. sportsphan

    October 20, 2010 at 10:11 am

    What’s really sad about this is that it’s probably the last hurrah. After the Yankees sign Cliff Lee in the off-season, they’ll be unbeatable for a few years. This team is beginning to show its age. The only consolation is that the Yankees aren’t going past this round of the playoffs, either.

  3. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Like I said in the other thread….what’s the point of having guys like Francisco (not just a pich-hitter) on the roster if you’re not gonna use them?

    The one change I would make is Ben Fran for Raul.

    But, I agree…would be no surprise if Charlie didn’t do it.

    He’s the manager. We’re not. He’s earned the right to have our trust and to make the calls.

  4. bfo_33

    October 20, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Some of the offensive challenges will be resolved tonight by facing a lefty. Vic is terrible from the left side (231), Rollins even worse (219) – both are around 300 from the right side. Plus, we’re facing a rookie making his first playoff start at home – jitters may be an issue. Add into that, we’re playing back to back games, get a night game, the bullpen is rested, Blanton is very rested. Now if Utley can get his head in the game, Werth take a few swings instead of waiting for a walk, we’ll be in good shape. Confident isn’t quite the right word, but I’m optimistic.

  5. sportsphan

    October 20, 2010 at 10:12 am

    Also, I give Polanco a pass. He needs elbow surgery and is probably playing with pain. It’s the others that are inexcusable. The usually reliable one that’s not coming through now is Chooch.

  6. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 10:15 am

    The “last hurrah” ???


    H20 is in place for next year. Rollins will bounce back after “one of those years” The rest of the lineup in unchanged except for Werth and I think D Brown will do just fine.

    Do I really need to go into all the rest, sportsphan??

    Give Ruben props….he’s got this team set up for contention.

  7. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 10:20 am

    How is Chooch not coming through any more than some of the others? He’s 2 for 9, but does have a HR….AND…is handling the pitching staff like he does.

    If you want to pick on anybody look at Raul’s numbers. Everyone else has at least 2 hits except for Chase and he’s been on base via walks.

    I’m not saying that we’re great offensively, but to single out Carlos Ruiz is ridiculous.

  8. bfo_33

    October 20, 2010 at 10:24 am

    sportsphan, while I agree on giving Polanco a pass, I hope that conceding the next several season to the yanks is due to a temporary moment of despair due to last night’s loss. Even if the Yanks get Lee, their line-up is going to stay pretty much the same (switch Crawford for Swisher, which is a big upgrade, on the other hand, Jeter, A-Rod, and Posada, who look very old right now, will be another year older).

    We’re only down 2-1 in a 7 game series. The fat lady is still in her dressing room. I’m not saying that the Giants can’t win, but from their manager on down (with the exception of Cody Ross) I haven’t seen anything that indicates the Phils can’t take 3 of the next 4. Will they? That’s the fun of postseason.

  9. Sam

    October 20, 2010 at 10:36 am

    I say this should be the the lineup for tonights game.

    1. Polanco
    2. Rollins

  10. Sam

    October 20, 2010 at 10:37 am

    3. Victorino
    4. Utley
    5. Howard
    6. Werth
    7. Brown
    8. Ruiz
    9. Blanton

  11. Sam

    October 20, 2010 at 10:37 am

    or put valdez in there somewhere

  12. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 10:44 am

    Sam, do you actually follow the Phillies??

    Look at your lineup… Polanco leading off?? D Brown…a rookie with ZERO playoff experience…facing a lefty?? Utley batting cleanup???


  13. Manny

    October 20, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I feel that if we insert Frisco in the lineup in the 7th hole… the lineup suddenly looks well-balanced. I would assume that they would leave Utley batting 2nd since it’s against a LHP. (However, I think I’ll never come to terms with Polanco batting 3rd, especially when he’s playing injured… The 3-hole is for the team’s best hitter and Polanco isn’t that guy right now. Werth should be batting 3rd, but it’s not gonna happen.)

    1. Shane
    2. Utley
    3. Polanco
    4. Howard
    5. Werth
    6. Jimmy
    7. Francisco
    8. Ruiz
    9. Heavy B!

  14. Jay

    October 20, 2010 at 10:50 am

    I agree with that, Charlie is loyal to a fault sometimes; it’s great he sticks by his players but averaging 3 runs a game in the NLCS? Sweeney and Valdez have come through a few times in big situations as PH. They usually score runs for Joe. I like bfo’s the fat lady is still in the dressing room. GO PHILS!

  15. Terry

    October 20, 2010 at 10:56 am

    Sam, you sound like you’ve been hanging out with Tim Lincecum. Polanco doesn’t hit leadoff, and Howard hasn’t hit anywhere other than 4th once this year. Why not hit Blanton cleanup? He had that homer against the Brewers in the ’08 NLDS… If that’s what tonight’s lineup card looks like, I’ll personally buy you tickets to each World Series game, no matter where they are. With airfare and hotel.

    The whole team looked lost up there yesterday, but like Pat said, Charlie sticks with his guys. The only real change we might hope for is Francisco over Ibanez. Other than that, I’d expect more of the same with Utley 2, and Polanco 3, since they’re facing a lefty in Baumgarner. They also tend to not fare well against guys they haven’t seen much, let’s hope that changes tonight.

  16. jeff

    October 20, 2010 at 11:00 am

    I said it all along. The Phillies would sweep the Reds. Right on

    I said if we do not hit in this series we lose 4-2. Right on

    I agree Jr has done good things. Pitching. He has also done bad

    Howard’s long term deal. Raul’s deal. He looks old. Giving Jimmy the extention to quickly. Bullpen. I am the biggest Utley fan. I named my son after him. Maybe he is hurt. If he does nothing next season then maybe its a fluke. Yes he hustles and I love that about him. He is a very average fielder. He is not hitting now. Maybe the hand. We will see. To lose to the Giants is horrible. They have solid pitching but there offense is terrible. To walk around Pat. He is nothing. Cody Ross are you kidding me. DO OR DIE

  17. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 11:13 am

    jeff, are you looking for some kind of validation for your words and predictions?

    And, better check your facts. Phils haven’t lost the series 4-2.

    You’d should wait til this actually happens…if it even does…before you start tooting your horn on here.

  18. Bart Shart

    October 20, 2010 at 11:16 am

    Charlie Manuel is also failing his team by not using his bench. He said regarding Ibanez’ slump that what is the use of making changes this late. That is bullshit. Charlie needs to sit Ibanez and play Francisco. Our bats are getting old and weak very fast. Howard has lost his pop. Utley and Polanco are getting weaker. During the season, Manuel needs to rest these guys from time to time. USE THE BENCH.

  19. Manny

    October 20, 2010 at 11:18 am

    The Giants did and it paid off: see Renteria, Rowand…

  20. Bart Shart

    October 20, 2010 at 11:20 am

    ….sounds like a lot of bloggers are like me at this point. confused and pissed. Oh well. Blanton will save the day. Just wait and see. He will pitch like Don Drysdale tonight. And Francisco and Howard will hit long balls. Ya Gotta Believe !!!!

  21. Manny

    October 20, 2010 at 11:22 am

    I think they’ll use the Panda today… this year as a LHB he hit .282 with 12 of his 13 HRs (only .227 and 1 HR as a RHB).

  22. Manny

    October 20, 2010 at 11:24 am

    Panda also hit .330 at AT&T and only .208 in away games. Crap.

  23. Ted Bell

    October 20, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Jeff – RAJ did not give Jimmy Rollins a contract “extension”, he simply picked up the 2011 option that was part of Rollins’ existing contract.

    I’m Ted Bell.

  24. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Charlie might have said that….about it being too late for changes….but we all know that he never REALLY reveals what he’s gonna do.

    Nothing would surprise me.

  25. jeff

    October 20, 2010 at 11:32 am

    Not tooting my own horn just telling you how it will go. I also picked the Colts to lose to the Jags. There is nobody on this Giants team that scares me. Nobody. If we win tonight we are in good shape. Even if we go down 3-2 coming home I know we can take two in our buidling.

  26. psujoe

    October 20, 2010 at 11:34 am

    No excuse for not using Ben Fran tonight. When they platooned the Phils got hot and Raul corrected his swing against just righties. Charlie, do what you did that turned the team around during the season. Start Ben Fran against LEfties!

  27. Jay

    October 20, 2010 at 11:34 am

    I think he will do something with tne line-up. He has done alot of tinkering this year already.

  28. Phillistein

    October 20, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Cholly is, for better or worse, old school. Dance with the girl who ya brung. In that regard he’s like Torre and Cox – stick with your vets.

    As he said to Jimmy – “Son, if you go down I’ll go down with ya”

    Yeah – there may be a little tinkering with the lineup but no whole scale changes.

    Earlier in the year Ibanez got out of his funk when Howard went down and Cholly batted him 3rd. Maybe that would help.

    The bottom line with this team is that they’re veterans and they know what they have to do. Therefore, they either do it or they don’t. Going into panic mode isn’t going to help – or motivate ANYONE.

    Lastly, we’re talking like the season is over; still a ot of baseball left. I don’t see no fat lady warming up.

  29. Phillistein

    October 20, 2010 at 11:44 am

    I meant a little tinkering with the batting order – not the lineup.

  30. psujoe

    October 20, 2010 at 11:57 am


    True, but Charlie went to a platoon with Ben Fran and Raul when Raul’s swing went south. Phils were dominant during that time. So Charlie should do what he did during a good portion of the succesful part of the season and use Ben Fran.

  31. frank

    October 20, 2010 at 11:58 am

    oh well i tried to submit lineup for blog maybe it will work the third time.


  32. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Jeff – you are a prognosticator of the highest order. Feel better? A soothsayer. Can you pick some stocks for me?

    The Dipsy

  33. Bart Shart

    October 20, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Seems to me that Ibanez is just swinging late on everything. That is a sign that he is tired. We all know he is old. He needs a rest.

  34. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    jeff, you make no sense.

    First, you pick the Giants to win 4-2

    NOW, you say that “Even if we go down 3-2 coming home I know we can take two in our building”

    Not sure if I’d trust you to pick stocks.

  35. sportsphan

    October 20, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Oh, and I forgot….the Giants are going to have this pitching staff in place for a long time to come. They are a lot younger than H2O is. So, it’s this year or not for another long time. I’m not singling out Chooch, by the way. I’m saying the only usually reliable one that isn’t producing right now is Chooch. He and Polanco are the only two that have been reliable for the whole season without going into prolonged hitting slumps. I agree that Ibanez is horrible, and should be out of the lineup, but he doesn’t qualify as “reliable”–he slumped the entire first half of the season.

  36. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 12:21 pm


    Raul Ibanez pretty much CARRIED this team the second half of the season. Without him we probably don’t make the playoffs.

    I’m pretty certain that would qualify as “reliable”

  37. Manny

    October 20, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    So much for my RAUL – NLCS MVP prediction… 🙁

  38. bfo_33

    October 20, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    sportsphan, somebody run over your puppy this morning, or did Jeff hack into your account? This is a best of 7, not best of three series. If we were playing Texas, who seems to be able to score runs at will, I’d be worried. We were in the 2 losses, had plenty of baserunners, just couldn’t get the big hit. We’re still in this series, why even worry about next year right now (I also wouldn’t pencil in a Giants-Yanks WS in 2011).

    I also don’t buy the Raul is tired argument. There has been plenty of down time in this postseason. Raul ripped a ball down the 1st base line yesterday (unfortunately right into Huff’s glove). His foul balls are sprayed on both sides of the diamond. This season, he’s just not very good at hitting lefties (like Vic and Rollins). It’s not something a nap is going to cure. He’s a platoon player at this point in his career. I have faith that Charlie will do the right thing and start Ben Fran tonight.

    I’m also hoping that PP goes back to #2, which is much more fitting for a 1 armed hitter. Chase rarely has two bad games in a row, and yesterday may have been his worst start of the season. For whatever reason, this line-up hits when Joe B is on the mound. I’m predicting an offensive explosion from the Phils to even up the series.

  39. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    “I don’t hear no fat lady!”

  40. The Original Chuck P

    October 20, 2010 at 12:37 pm

    Ugly would be an understatement…

    Who is this jeff impersonator… saying that the Phils should be alright if they win tonight is not very jeff-like.

    Every game from here on out is the most important game of the season. I would be lying if I said that I wasn’t a little bit concerned heading into tonight’s ballgame but I know this team is probably dying to get back out there and that’s what I love about them.

    I think that Joe B could have some success tonight… he doesn’t have to worry about being perfect in that ballpark so hopefully he won’t give up that big inning that has caused him so many problems this year.

  41. sportsphan

    October 20, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    I guess I’m just easily made hopeless because I’m 55 years old and have been a fan of all Philadelphia sports teams for as long as I can remember. There’s been so much hurt and so much losing when it seemed impossible that I immediately revert back to that fatalistic mind set as soon as things don’t go smoothly. That said, I still think the Giants win in 6. But those of you who are younger and haven’t lived through all the “cursed years”, give us oldsters a break. We’ve been conditioned to think the worst is inevitable.

  42. Lefty

    October 20, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    I’m the same age as you SP. I rememeber the Tugger telling everyone “Ya Gotta Believe” , and I do.

  43. jt

    October 20, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    why can’t just one guy slump in the lineup at a time whenever a slump happens they all jump on board…if guys like utley,howard and werth were producing rbi’s we could surive ibanez 0-14 slump but nobody is hitting and we need a change to get some spark going the san fran manger is change his lineup left and right and their up 2-1 we stick with our same lineup and were down 1-2 francisco needs to start they need a different bat in there to get a spark going and i want chooch hitting 6th in the lineup.

  44. Bruce

    October 20, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    I hope all the “doomsdayers” don’t even turn on the TV tonight…why bother since you already have the Phillies done. Even if they somehow lose tonight, I won’t be waving the white flag. This is the best Phillies team out of the last three years, mostly due to H2O. Unfortunately, when they slump they do so as a team and when they hit, they do so as a team too. I also wish Benny F. started tonight…but I will stick by Charlie M. no matter what as his team seems to really respond to him. What if he listened to the fans in game 2 and benched Rollins? Let’s avoid Cody Ross and get over the time change…GO PHILLIES. BTW…the Rangers now appear to be the scariest team still in the playoffs…they are friggin good.


    October 20, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Howard (Hit a Fn homerun please)
    Ben Fransisco
    Joe The Pitcher

    and go out and win the damn game.

  46. Lefty

    October 20, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Also SP,
    When RAJ told us we can’t keep Cliff Lee because we have to refresh the young ones given up for Doc, I don’t believe anyone in Philadelphia believed we were too old at that time. All we could think about was win now, the window is now. Well, we ended up giving up the prospects anyway for Oswalt, and now you are posting that this team is starting to show it’s age?

    You can’t have it both ways. Who came to RAJ’s defense when we traded Lee? Nobody!, I know I didn’t. There should be no complaints about how “old” we might look going into next year, we were warned.

    But for the here and now, You just got to believe!

  47. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    So now that we have real contenders to deal with instead of the 2008/2009 Dodgers (whose luck finally ran out in 2010), everyone’s ready to throw in the towel because we’re not up 3-0 or 2-1.

    And I was being laughed at for saying Phillies in 7. Not here, elsewhere.

    These guys have been coming from behind all season long.

    Yes, as a sports town, we’ve been disappointed a lot. Pain, heartache, devastation, everything.

    But this Phillies team has not disappointed us (unless you’re one of those losers who consider going to the World Series twice and winning once disappointing). Given every chance this season to throw in the towel, they’ve FOUND ways to win games. Why don’t we have some PHaith in THIS team?

    Trust Charlie. He’s brought us this far.

    They’ll find a way to send this series to Game 7 and they’ll find a way to win Game 7. And in the off-chance they don’t, I’m still proud of these guys for the year they’ve given us.

    Phillies in seven.


    October 20, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    We win today, we win the series.

  49. Lefty

    October 20, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    We’re going to break out of the funk tonight folks, and it will be glorious.

  50. jt

    October 20, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    win the next 2 bring it home and finish it off in 6 if we can win joe start tonight i like our chances with doc going again and oswalt for a game 6…lets break out the bats and get this going.

  51. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    I came to RAJ’s defense. I still think that trade was necessary and made us stonger for the LONG HAUL.

  52. Lefty

    October 20, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    BTW – We are 4-2 since the playoffs started, that’s .667 baseball, and we’ll be 5-2 after tonight.

  53. psujoe

    October 20, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Ben Framsisco started 22 games this year. That’s 20% of the time and a much higher percentage against lefties. Charlie, stick with what got you here and start Fransisco tonight!

  54. psujoe

    October 20, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    Against Left handed starters it’s not even close. BenFran has more HRs in 60 less plate appearences.

    Ibanez .232
    Francisco .280

    Ibanez .722
    Francisco .872

  55. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Enough with the predictions of what our record will be and which games we’re gonna win.

    The ONLY game that matters right now…and that we should be talking about is tonight.

  56. Lefty

    October 20, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    If you did Chuck, you’re a smarter fan than me. Anyway I was just trying to make a point to SP for his “age” comment.


    October 20, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    OK GUYS LOOK AT IT THIS WAY-Win tonight And its a best of 3 with us having home-field and throwing out Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels. I’ll take those odds.

  58. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Don’t know how smart I am. Just supported the trade, that’s all. I truly believe that it was the right thing to do for the OVERALL health of the team.

    And yeah, I get what you were trying to tell sportphan….you know, the “oldster” at 55. I’m not that much younger than that …and I would hardly call myself an oldster.

  59. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Let’s only talk about tonight. Forget tomorrow. Or Saturday. Or next week.


  60. BravoMan

    October 20, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    It’s over, Philly people. It’s over. The Giants are too good. They’re getting the great pitching and timely hits when it’s mattering the most…. in the playoffs. Their pitching has been there all year, now their hitting is clutch. The Phillies just aren’t good enough.

  61. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    I would like to see Francisco play tonite. More than that I would like to see Halladay start the game. I have NO idea why Blanton is pitching. Three days rest? Its the playoffs for gods sake. You have the whole offseason to rest.

    The Dipsy

  62. The Original Chuck P

    October 20, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Joe B has enjoyed a lot of success at AT&T Park; he has a career 3.57 ERA there.

    BUT even if Joe is successful… and I’ll make this a Sarge-ism… you’ve gotta score some runs to win a game.

    I think that we have to be patient with Bumgarner and try to disrupt his rhythm. I think that we’ve been a little to eager to just get up there and swing away. We’ve gotta take our time, step out of the box every once in a while and try to get him out of his rhythm.

  63. bfo_33

    October 20, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    8 O’clock yet? I like Vic at lead-off against a lefty. He’s the key tonight – get on base and start some chaos. I think the BUMgardner folds under the pressure of a home game post season start – he’ll start out wild, then start grooving pitches. Two request – to Big Joe – outer 3rd of the plate to Cody Ross; to Werth – it’s okay to swing at balls down the middle, even on a first pitch.

  64. jeff

    October 20, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    i work on wallstreet. anytime guys. anyway if we lose tonight we do not come home. thats what im saying dipshi t..

  65. Bart Shart

    October 20, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    Excellent and honest critique by Pat Gallen. I agree with everything. Our offense is in the crapper. Let’s get some hits.

  66. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Wall Street?? So THAT explains why you’re such a clueless jacka$$.

  67. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Post 1
    The pathetic Yankees sign Lee
    Look at them.

    10-3 wont help with a pitcher in the dugout and certainly not unbeatable.

    Page me when the Phillies embarrass themselves.
    Although 3 hits is embarrassing.

  68. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Just re reeading the first responce
    Unbeatable for a few years.
    OK I am passing out and dieing from that alone.

  69. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    So they need Lee? they do have AJ (Soprano) Burnett

    But the will be unbeatable at least till 2016

    Thank you first responder

  70. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    I’ve been a big Raul supporter all season. Even early in the season when he struggled he still put some quality, patient AB’s together. Right now? This is the worst I’ve ever seen him. It’s an absolute black hole between Werth and Chooch. Ibanez vs a Lefty is like surrendering AB’s. Ibanez is a 38 year old average LF. He is not so great that his place in the lineup should be chiseled in stone. Fransisco is an upgrade vs a Lefty. Charlie needs to make the switch for this game.

  71. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Leave it to Dipsy to preach the 3 das rest thing.
    The level of retardedness there is unspeakable.

    but the yankees are unstoppable.

  72. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Someone put down in writing that they want Halladay tonight.
    Come to my house and beat me. Just take your boot off like Ike Turner and beat me. It wont mess up your hand that way.

  73. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    I get what Dipsy is saying. But this isn’t the days of Bob Gibson….or better yet….Cy Young ,Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson. (I think one of those dudes threw 2 ends of a doubleheader)

    FULL REST is the mantra.

    I support it.

  74. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Halladay does get a win if we don’t score a run, so the point is moot. This is not an elimination game and I refuse to believe this bunch of waiver wire pick ups can beat the Phillies in a 7 game series..

    We need 7 strong from Joe B and some of these guys need to hit the baseball.

  75. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    What? Three days is the mantra? What has changed since the days of Bob Feller and Walter Johnson? Nothing. For the first 100 years of this sport, we had four man rotations. Are you saying to me…friends….that you like a fully rested, as in 23 day rested or whatever, Joe Blanton more than a Halladay on short rest (who is also coming off of lots of rest during the past three weeks)? I will take Roy Halladay every day of the week. Halladay v. Rosenbumdgardner. We need a win.

    The Dipsy

  76. jeff of Nova

    October 20, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Jeff….. change your name you are an idiot! You are a stain on most people’s shorts. Definitely not a true fan of this team.

    I think if Charlie does nothing and they lose again, that would be partially because of Charlie’s arrogance. I really would like to see some change even the smallest would help

  77. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    *Full rest is the mantra.

    My bad.

    The Dipsy

  78. wxdavid

    October 20, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    BRAVO man you are a Moron– the GREAT pitching of the giants is Hype. The Phillies are 2 for 17 RISP…. that means the Giants who have supposedly shut down the Phillies have let 17 runners in 3 games get to 2 base or 3rd base .

    how is THAT shutting anyone down ?…..

    the Phillies have had this RISP problem all season long. It has NOTHING to do with the Gaints pitching .

    In JUNE the Phillies went a streak of 4 games were theu score 2 runs. NOTHING to fo with the Giants.

    there was another streak where the Philies went 17 games NOT scoring more than 3 runs. Again NOTHING to do with the Giants. The Giants are a Good team and they are going to the WS and the Phillies are NOT. But this problems the Phillies NOT hitting with RISP has been around all season.

  79. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 2:32 pm

    I liked what we saw out of Contreras last night and we’ve got Madson and Lidge all rested up and ready to go.

    Pitching isn’t our problem, even when we don’t have a starter guaranteed to go at least into the eighth. You can’t win if you don’t score runs, and you don’t score runs when you don’t hit, or at least exercise some discipline at the plate.

    I remember during July and August, it seemed like Raul was always falling into the hole 0-2 yet somehow managed to work out a walk or at least make a pitcher work harder than he should.

    Fundamentals. I’d like to see some of the small ball we saw in Game 2.


    October 20, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Lefty, love the line. Yes it will be glorious.

  81. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    We are not playing a mash unit. Joe Blanton is a major leaguer and should be able to get a quality start. We need to make this kid, MadBum, pay. We have a lineup full of guys not hitting their weight. That needs to change…. tonight.

  82. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Andrew: Everyone agrees, 3 hits is embarrassing. ALL of last night was embarrassing. I was so angry I was yelling out of frustration. I’m hoarse. Co-workers thought I was sick this morning.

    The Giants only had 5 hits. They just managed to turn 3 of them into runs. Of course somewhere along the line the Phillies also managed to loan them their confidence as well.

    SOooo: . . . , armed with Edgar Renteria, arguably older, maybe even a “has-been” who starts their line-up; OUR confidence; and a garden gnome, baby-named “hero”, who skips away from home plate — the Giants now believe their mediocre-to-decent team is actually greatness itself. Perfect, perfect.

    The Phillies have legitimately built themselves a ‘Giant’ problem. It’s like a baseball horror movie.

  83. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 2:42 pm

    We really need to stop treating the Giants like they’re a little league team. They are a major league baseball team, right? One that just won their division and advanced to the NLCS.

    How many actual “waiver wire pickups” do they really have?. And what’s wrong with a waiver wire deal anyway? Jamie Moyer, Scott Eyre, Matt Strairs, Blanton I believe….were all August deals. And, last I checked, all those guys helped us to a WFC in 2008.

    It just seems like this fanbase of ours all of a sudden has this attitude that we are somehow entitled. That all other teams suck ….or don’t deserve to be here.

    We need to stop that. We are sounding like the Yankees.

  84. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    @ Dipsy
    I like you I really like you.
    If the Phillies started pitchers on short rest tonight Id revoke my fanship. It really is so offensive to me. But it needs to be brought up and if not by you then by no one.

    to all
    Stop belittling the Giants line up and thinking the Phillies line up is so much better.
    Its not.

  85. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Speaking of the Yankees.
    Will be fun to watch the elimination today.

  86. bfo_33

    October 20, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    The issue isn’t just Doc. If you pitch Halladay tonight, you are committing to also pitching Oswalt and Hamels on short rest. If not, then you are pitching Blanton tomorrow. I like Blanton against Bum, Halladay against the Freak better. It’s not like we’re looking at pitching Burnett – Blanton hasn’t lost since July.

    I wouldn’t write off the Yanks just yet, either. I think it is unlikely that they come back, but they have a ton of firepower in the line-up, and both parks are hitters parks. Texiera has done nothing in the playoffs – him getting hurt is almost addition by subtraction.

  87. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Dipsy, the days of the 4 man rotation are long gone. Over. Bye Bye. And have been for awhile.

    I loved all those characters from the past that would pitch an 11 inning game and then pitch 9 more two or three days later.

    But we have 5 man rotations and specialized bullpens now.

    Pitch Blanton tonight…and then H20 is on full rest for each of their starts.

    And this isn’t so much about Halladay (and Oswalt) as it is about Hamels.

  88. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Dipsy, if Charlie puts Halladay out there, that’s it for him for the series. This is NOT an elimination game.

    I don’t know how Oswalt is on short rest, so I can’t say definitively whether he’ll be fine or not.

    Hamels has never gone on three days’ rest. You want to find out how he adjusts in Game 6, a possible elimination game?

    Going with Big Joe is the right decision. Numbers mean next to nothing, but the offense has produced more, historically, this season for Big Joe and Li’l Kyle than for H2O.

    Also, another historical fact. We’ve never faced Bumgarner before. He could pitch like a little leaguer and, historically this season, it wouldn’t matter. The offense has not adjusted well to new pitching.

    Do we want to waste Doc on a non-elimination game that we might lose anyway? Use your head.


    October 20, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Andrew fws, With all due respect, the Giants haven’t scored all year and they did not score against the Braves and the haven’t scored agains us, but we have to and can score more than 0 and win these next few games. Go Phils.

  90. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Right or wrong, this team induces panic amongst the fans. They have games where they looks so lethargic and bored, that they make us feel as though they have just quit. I expect a big bounce back tonight because Charlie doesn’t panic. Jimmy doesn’t panic. This team doesn’t panic.

    They just scare the bejeebers out of us.

    Time for these guys to put up an 8 piece on MadBum.


    October 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Kate, why can’t Halladay pitch game 7 on 3 days rest again? It’s not like he is Cliff Lee who everyone knows couldn’t (last yr vs yanks) and can’t pitch on 3 days. Just askin’.

  92. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Kate’s right. Contreras looked good, as good as he’s looked all season.

    In spite of the loss; these small things gave me hope:
    I don’t think Victorino is all that different than he ever is.
    Werth hit a ball WAY out last night. Seems like in the past when he does that, the next step is power hitting for a few games (Howard does this too).
    Most of them were really working the plate counts, even if they weren’t getting hits.
    There haven’t been other fielding errors in any of the other games, only the few recent infield ones.
    Though I don’t know that I’m exactly down w/Blanton starting tonight, it does seem they score for him. Maybe that’ll work in our favor.
    Uncle Charlie sounded angry at the press conference. I was hoping he knocked heads together when he went in that clubhouse. It could only help.

    And whoever talked earlier about Werth tossing his bat — He’s had maybe 2 “strikes” called in the past couple of games that were more than questionable. For whatever reason they really seemed to stand out w/his ABs. Even those thimble-brained, gerkins broadcasting for FOX agreed enough to talk about both calls. Maybe taken together w/the lost games he’s getting frustrated. Who can blame him/them?

  93. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    As much as the Giants line up is under rated the Phillies line up is that over rated so far.
    Like the Yankees and ill go there. The Dallas Cowboys.
    You are what your record says you are.
    The Phillies line up is 1-2 with having big Roy little Roy and Cole pitch.

    Id rather have Blanton today than any other person.

  94. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Well maybe Jamie Moyer.

  95. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Another record: The Phillies had the best win/loss record in MLB this season.

    I don’t think its “belittling” the Giants line-up to speak an opinion. Imo, they’re a mediocre-to-decent team, but they are not great. They’re also well coached. They also got lucky to get this far b/c the Dodgers & the Padres both imploded. The Braves were injury riddled and went down easily.

    The Phillies, however, are making the Giants look great. That has given the Giants confidence. Confidence can & does routinely win over talent & skill, evidence is all around us, not just in sports. The Phillies seem to have lost their confidence.

  96. Bob in Bucks

    October 20, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    I said all along that the Giants and Phillies are evenly matched. Both teams have great starting pitching and not so great offense. Everyone thinks about 08 and 09 but that is not this team. These players don’t have the same power that they did before.

    Panic changes to the lineup are not likely to be productive. Baseball players tend to go in streaks. You have no idea of when things will turn. Charlie could consider Francisco but tonight might be the night that Ibanez turns it on.

    If you play a slot machine for 45 minutes and you leave it because you are losing bad, watch what happens when the next guy sits down. You have to go with the best percentage play, rule of large numbers will bring it all back to averages. On average Ibanez is better than Francisco. Brown is a rookie with no real MLB experience. No way do you throw him into the NLCS.

    We are only down 2-1 but I forget, many of the writes are the same guys who threw the towel in after the Astros swept us, and back in the June when the Phils were not hitting. Sticking with the players (Ibanez, Lidge, etc) did work while others wanted wholesale changes. Admit it – you would have walked away from these guys while Manuel stuck with them and it paid off.

    For me, whatever Charlie does I am OK because, despite everything you think and say, he generally does the right thing.

    Like the man says – “Go down with you”. I’ll go down with Charlie because if it was not for him, we would not be in the playoffs.

    But I suppose the concept of judging based on actual results is not as much fun as panic lineup changes.

  97. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    @ Bob in bucks

    Love the sentiment but slot machines are a racket much like the lottery. They have built in pay outs. For every dollar in 85 cents comes out.
    So keep putting it in and 85 cents comes out. Its a simple percentages game. Like the lottery you are 1 in 5000 to win 500 bucks. Then some sucker will tell you to play the lottery someone has to win. And they are right but its a bad bet.

  98. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    TODD, you just can’t start messing with the rotation and the way it’s set and the rest days. Why even entertain Hall day pitching 2 games on short rest when you don’t have to? Stick to the plan and let it unfold the way it’s supposed to.

  99. BrewTown PhilsPhan

    October 20, 2010 at 3:28 pm

    Something I’ve been thinking and haven’t heard anywhere:

    Everyone seems to assume that if you start Doc on short rest, you have to start the other guys on short rest too. Why?

    Starting Doc tonight makes sense to me, just so that his start isn’t wasted on another loss to Lincecum. The way our offense is going, I don’t know if we can beat him, but we can beat Baumgartner if we hold down the Giants. So why not swap Doc and Big Joe in the rotation? Doc on short rest can still beat Baumgartner, evening the series. Then you take your chances with Joe tomorrow night, and worst case scenario you’ve got two games in CBP – one starting Oswalt who never loses there and another starting Cole, who’s looked incredibly sharp this postseason.

    I really do think that tonight is the must-win game of the next two, given that you have to favor the Giants tomorrow but there’s good reason to favor the Phils after that. Switching the pitchers doesn’t fix the bats, but it at least gives us our best shot.

  100. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 3:31 pm


    You’ve got to be kidding me. This Giants lineup isn’t underrated. They’re averaging 2.66 runs per game. They’re awful. 3 runs last night? We should win that game with the guys we have.

  101. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Brewtown: “I really do think that tonight is the must-win game of the next two, given that you have to favor the Giants tomorrow but there’s good reason to favor the Phils after that.”

    Totally agree with this.

  102. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    Starting Doc tonight makes no sense for one simple reason:

    Win or lose, there is still a game tomorrow.

    Then what? Blanton vs Lincecum?


  103. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    biz: “You’ve got to be kidding me. This Giants lineup isn’t underrated. They’re averaging 2.66 runs per game. They’re awful. 3 runs last night? We should win that game with the guys we have.”

    Agree w/this too, 100%. Thank you. We should be up 2 -1.

    The Phillies need to simmer the heck down, remember who they are, how they got there, & what they used to expect from themselves. Just GET IT DONE. Cut the crap. Enough already.

  104. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 3:39 pm


    Would you rather have Roy Halladay or Joe Blanton pitching in a possible elimination game?

    There’s your answer why Charlie can’t just switch Roy and Big Joe. If we lose tonight anyway, we face elimination tomorrow. Despite the loss in Game 1, we had a bit of success against Lincecum.

    Switching Big Joe and Roy makes absolutely no sense and stinks of desperation where desperation is not yet necessary.


    October 20, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Chuck, I agree, since were only down 2-1, but it is a reasonable disscussion and Halladay is a guy that can do it and I really want to go to another game Sat. 🙂

  106. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Phan in the Outfield,

    The schizophrenic offensive display by what should be a mash unit, is wearing on me. No way we should lose this series. I don’t care who they have pitching. Our pitching and their pitching is as close to a push as you will find. The difference between our offense and theirs is like walking off a cliff. The drop off is huge.

  107. BrewTown PhilsPhan

    October 20, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    I suppose it’s true that Charlie has to present an air of confidence at this point – not desperation. From where I sit, though, being down 1-3 with a game on the road against Lincecum would be the equivalent of being eliminated – no matter who we have pitching. I’m looking at it from the perspective that we’ve got to win one of these two games, so lets set up our pitching to make that happen – taking into account where our best chance lies given who the other guy has pitching.

    But I can understand why Charlie can’t start managing that way. Kate your last line is the best explanation I’ve heard. I just keep hearing everyone assume that pitching Doc on short rest inevitably means pitching Cole on short rest, and I don’t see that argument.

  108. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    I will only submit this
    The giants line up is 2-1 vs Hallday Oswalt and Hamels

    3 runs looks good whn the other team has 3 hits

  109. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    So TODD, this is now about you and the fact that you want to go to another game on Saturday because you most likely have tickets.? Why don’t you just give Charlie a quick call and give him your story….I’m sure he will oblige.


    October 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm

    Chuck, Actually I go to every game, that’s why I moved to Philadelphia. This team winning is always bigger than anything in my life, that’s why i’m on this board with the rest of us Phreaks. Go Phils.

  111. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    That I was the one preaching the Giants in the reg season.
    We now give up on a game 5 with big Roy?

    Its bad match up for the Phillies on every level.
    This is the last team they want to play ever.

    I posted in another thread about champions.
    The Phillies are champions. Beat them 4 of 7 and just simply take your hat off to the better team.

  112. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    “bigger than anything” in your life.

    Let me get this straight….the success of the Phillies is more important to you than your family, your job??



    October 20, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Yes, it’s caused some problems at times. 🙂

  114. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    I can imagine. I’ve been accused of being too “obsessed” myself at times…

  115. The Original Chuck P

    October 20, 2010 at 4:46 pm


    We’re behind and people have their fingers on the panic buttom and things look grim and what does that all mean? We have the Giants right where they want them.

    Bet against this team and they will prove you wrong every time…


  116. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    You can find another job and get another family. My Uncle just left my Aunt after 48 years.
    I know I cant pick another team.

    Who is doing the inspirational speech today?

  117. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    Both Halladay and Oswalt are good on short rest. I would not suggest this if it were Cole’s turn obviously (no disrespect intended). Asking a stud major league starter with a strong arm to start on three days rest is NOT a big deal. And I would say that you start Halladay in Game 7, too. Again on three days rest. When and where did everybody get the idea that starting a pitcher on three days rest is akin to asking him to pull a dog sled in a foot of snow. Most people are brainwashed that a pitcher MUST have 3 days. Remember Steve Carlton? STOP. Is a pitcher better with 4 days? Sure. But a 3 day Halladay is better than 95% of the other major league pitchers on 4 days rest and thats a fact!

    When you ask a guy to pitch of 3 days rest, be sure he has done it successfully before, and can do it now. Halladay has and can. He’s the best pitcher in the game.

    Everyone. Ask yourself this: Who has a better chance of winning tonite? Blanton or Halladay? I sincerely believe that Halladay can pitch the rest of the series on three days rest and not lose a thing.

    Don’t get me wrong. Do I think starting Blanton is ridiculous? No. I wouldn’t do it but, hey, reasonable minds can differ.

    The Dipsy


    October 20, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Andrew fws, You are absolutely right, you can’t pick another team. Let’s get this done tonite.


    October 20, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Ben Francisco will start in LF over Ibanez


    October 20, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    RT @philaphillies: Game 4-Victorino CF, Utley 2B, Polanco 3B, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Rollins SS, Francisco LF, Ruiz C, Blanton

  121. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    Ok. So we start Halladay tonight and he wins. I’ll give you that.

    Oswalt tomorrow and he loses. I think The Freak has the advantage in that game pitching on full rest and at home vs a pitcher on short rest. So now you’re down 3-2.

    Back to Philly. Game 6 Sat. Elimination game. Hamels on short rest or Blanton?

    That’s the question.

  122. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 5:21 pm

    Chuck – I hear ya. I do not like being down 2-1 in Frisco with Blanton pitching tonite and then facing a close out with Freak tomorrow in SF. Blanton can wis this game. Halladay WILL win it. You pitch Oswalt and win that sucker. Oswalt’s been a stud. I will not pencil in losses. If we go back to Philly 3-2, Blanton can pitch v. Sanchez. Just get me back to Philly.

    To me, you have to pitch your best and I believe there is such a drop off from the aces to Blanton that you just ride the aces on short rest.

    The Dipsy

  123. Andrew from waldorf

    October 20, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    OK have to go back to this. It is why I go on rants here and I don’t feel bad about them. The level of this is inconceivable.
    Its almost unholy. Only worse.
    Someone sat in front of a keyboard and typed this.

    After the Yankees sign Cliff Lee in the off-season, they’ll be unbeatable for a few years.

  124. The Dipsy

    October 20, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    Game 5 – Oswalt
    Game 6- Hamels
    Game 7- Halladay

    The Dipsy

  125. mary

    October 20, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    The phillies will win this series watch and see people.

  126. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Regardless IF we lose tonight, Doc wins tomorrow. Eff the Freak. Doc wins tomorrow. NO WAY he loses an elimination game. Then Oswalt Sat and Hamels Sunday.

  127. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    And….IF we win tonight, Doc ALSO wins tomorrow. We take this f*cker back to Philly with a lead.

  128. MikeB.

    October 20, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    This “Cinderella” type of post-season baseball the the Giants have been playing has got to end sometime, you would think, just like the stroke of midnight brought Cinderella back to reality. While their pitching is super, their offense is hardly supportive of their pitching and I think that the luck of their pitching is soon to run out.

    Ibanez is getting eaten alive on those fast pitches that go across the plate sideways from a left-handed pitcher; pitches that slant across the plate from a lefty. Seems like he is not fast enough to get his bat out early in front of the ball to hit it before it tails away from him. Maybe should stand as far in front of the batter’s box as allowed facing lefties that throw them pitches corner to corner.

    If Phils lose this, there will be great controversy as to who Manuel played and who he did not involving Ibanez and Francisco and Rollins and Valdez.


    October 20, 2010 at 5:36 pm


  130. biz

    October 20, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Phillies win tonight. Putting in BenFran is going to give us a boost. That guy does drive the baseball. Ibanez isn’t seing lefties, or righties for that matter.

    Also, can we put this “Valdez-over-Jimmy” thing to rest? If you think Valdez gives you a better chance to win than J-Roll, you’re delusional. Valdez has no pop. None. He has less range than Jimmy. The only thing Valdez does better than J-Roll is throw harder. And this Giants team cant run. No need for the howitzer when the .45 will suffice. In 4 AB’s Valdez will give you 4 grounders. Jimmy may pop up 4 times but he has a shot to gap a ball or 2, Valdez has no shot. None. This is ridiculous. It’s like saying “Let’s put Sweeney at 1st”. Or Gload.

  131. Chuck

    October 20, 2010 at 5:50 pm

    I am one of Wison Valdez’s biggest fans. Seriously, I would love to have a Valdez #21 jersey.

    But replacing J-Roll with him is just not smart at this point. All the reasons are obvious and not worth me repeating.

  132. MikeB.

    October 20, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    I totally agree with you, Chuck, Valdez just does not have the bat to start in the playoffs but from what I seen from watching play Valdez play shortstop during the season, his range is just as good as Rollin’s; cannot agree with you on that point but yes, Valdez does not have that potential “pop” at the bat like Rollins does. Non the less, there will be a lot of controversy after everything is over.

  133. MikeB.

    October 20, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    I’m sorry, I meant to reply to biz’s last post specifically.

  134. Phan in the outfield

    October 20, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    I like Wilson. He got the job done, and we couldn’t have made it through the summer w/o him. But I don’t think putting Valdez in over Rollins in the playoffs is bright. What do I know?

    Okay, I admit it, I’m concerned. You know what – if putting Tinkerbell in the line-up would help right now, well then, give her red & white pinstripes!

  135. Kate

    October 20, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    Yeah, we can’t replace two guys in the line-up tonight.

    If Jimmy fails to produce tonight, maybe think about it. And I’m talking going 0-4 without any contact. He’s been making contact, he just wasn’t following through yesterday. Same with Howard, who’s been hitting the ball more than most of the guys in the line-up.

    Personally, I think they should be talking about benching Utley for a game before benching Jimmy. My man Wilson spent some time at second base this year.

    But I think Francisco for Ibanez is going to be the only noteworthy shake-up of this series, unless they send someone other than Ross Gload to pinch-hit when Blanton’s night is done (SWEENEY! BROWN! The BATBOY! That Giants fan who was yelling at Victorino after the game! ANYONE!).

    I know I’ve been on everyone’s case about Raul’s contribution this year and I stand by every word of it, but I’m okay with this benching.

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