Pat Gallen on CSN's Lunch Break – Phillies Nation

Pat Gallen on CSN's Lunch Break



  1. Greg

    December 17, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    New site layout and already spam 🙁

  2. Jay aka Phillyboy

    December 17, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    There will be no deal between Phillies and lefty reliever Dennys Reyes, according to a source. Two sides have parted ways.
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  3. GoPhils

    December 18, 2010 at 12:26 am

    Funny and smart talk. My opinion on the win total is over 96. Here’s why. The Phils won 97 games last year. Jayson Werth is now gone. Let’s say Dom Brown and Fransisco platoon in right. A moderate estimate is, for me, that they at least approximate, if not exceed Werth’s production. Brown is a very talented young player rated the top prospect in our system by Baseball America. They rarely make a mistake, as Cole Hamels, Gavin Floyd, Jimmy Rollins and Marlon Byrd all have gotten the top prospect honors and all are above average big leaguers. Bill James actually predicted that Brown would hit 26 homers. Fransisco has hit 15 in extended playing time for the Indians. Now last year we had Oswalt for only half the year. Now he’ll be here the whole year. Lee is an upgrade over Blanton or Kendrick, whomever he replaces. Last year Utley hit 16 homers, Rollins just 8, Ibanez just 16, and Howard just 31. These numbers are down from their career averages and I expect an uptick in 2011. Last year Rollins hit just .243, Utley just .275 and Victorino just .259. Again, these numbers are down from career averages and I expect an uptick here as well. I also think it is possible that Bastardo and DeFratus emerge as bullpen studs. I think now that we resigned Lee, we will only be able to sign one reliever and that would leave us with 2 spots for our young guys to fight over. I like the 2 mentioned. All in all, Werth’s departure will be more than compensated for and therefore we win more than 97.

  4. Brooks

    December 18, 2010 at 3:58 am

    So hard to predict – last year was such an oddity.

    Yes the Phils were 3rd in the NL in runs scored but did it seem that way? Without that historic September – who knows where the Phils would have wound up.

    On paper everything looks great – if you were to pick the top 11 starters in the ML today, the Phillies would have 4 names drawn. If you were to pick some of the best offensive talents in the NL today, the Phils are loaded with All stars at 1B, 2B, SS, CF top new prospects – Dominic Brown is rated one of the best rookie prospects – then what could possibly go wrong?

  5. Brooks

    December 18, 2010 at 4:01 am

  6. Chuck

    December 18, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Pat Gallen talkin’ football. I love it!! (and he knows his stuff, too!)

  7. Ted Bell

    December 18, 2010 at 10:16 am

    I don’t want to harsh anyone’s buzz, but it seems like the general population is not recognizing Jayson Werth’s contributions to the Phillies (offensively and defensively). As inconsistent as he seemed last season, he was still the most consistent player in the lineup. It’s wonderful that we have a top rated prospect ready to step in, but at one time Cameron Maybin was the Tigers top prospect – he’s now on his third team. Somebody predicting he’ll hit 26 HRs is really irrelevant – from what we saw last season Brown looked overmatched at the big league level offensively (and surprisingly bad defensively). Until Brown proves he can produce at the major league level he remains a question mark.

    And I know people get upset when I bring this up, but players over the age of 30 statistically tend to decline. The decline really speeds up once a player hits 34. To say that Rollins, Utley, and Howard will ALL have better seasons than 2010 is wishing for something that has a small likelihood of actually
    happening. We can blame things on injury if it makes us feel better, but players get hurt more often as they age. Just facts here. We all know these things, but at times being a fan makes it hard to accept that our favorite players are winding down. Statistically, all these guys have had their best seasons already. Sure there can be an outlier from time to time, but having ALL these guys “bounce back” just isn’t going to happen.

    RAJ has assembled the best starting rotation I’ve seen in my lifetime, but I’m still concerned with this lineup.

    I’m Ted Bell.

  8. Chuck

    December 18, 2010 at 10:48 am

    The likelihood that all these guys have injuries and DL stints like last season is pretty remote as well. So…by default….you have to make a case that THIS year…2011…the lineup will produce more runs….even without Werth and maybe with a D Brown that’s not quite ready. Just my feeling.

    I agree, however, that in a few years the natural decline will start to really kick in for some of these guys, although I have to think that a guy like Howard…who really works his butt off…will stay healthier longer. Compare him to a guy like Prince Fielder, who’s pretty overweight and to David Ortiz, who’s been relegated to DH duty. Again, just my feeling.

    As for Jayson Werth….he hasn’t gotten the recognition (although he DID score that contract) and I think Phillies fans will now be quick to bash him now that he’s gone…and that’s not fair, either. I hope Brown eventually lives up to his expectations and that last season’s brief time and limited at-bats that produced very little will soon be a thing of the past…just a blip on the screen. Fans need to be patient…at least a little bit…and maybe with the acqusition of Lee the pressure will be taken off of the offense a bit to score a gazillion runs every night.

  9. betasigmadeltashag

    December 18, 2010 at 11:57 am

    finally I can post whooo whoooo

  10. Lefty

    December 18, 2010 at 11:59 am

    This has absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed, I just found it interesting and funny.

  11. Phillyfanatic

    December 18, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    These guys are pretty good!

  12. Robert Kahn

    December 18, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I don’t like the new site at all and HATE the RED and white. I know the theme but it makes it hard to read. Also sign in and the rest is all downhill. Note the lower number of posts.

    • R.C. Cowie

      December 18, 2010 at 6:47 pm


      The upgrade to Phillies Nation was not only long over due but necessary in order to provide all of you with the best website possible. That is why we have been laboring over the last 18 months to conceptualize, draft and finalize this site for you. We all feel that it is innovative, sleek and better than the previous version.

      Is there a lot going on here, yes. But, there always has been a lot of content on Phillies Nation and no one ever knew how to access it. We have created a way for everyone to see what we have to offer and then some.

      I challenge you to go find a sports-centric blog that offers the better quality, community and dedication than this one.

      I’ll be waiting.

      Happy Holidays,


      • Chuck

        December 18, 2010 at 7:40 pm

        Well said, RC!! This is and always has been the gold standard for Phillies blogs and now is probably one of the best OVERALL sports blogs out there. The now defunct (at least for now, I guess?) The Fightins was fun, but it didn’t have the content and intellect that PN has. The writers and posters here at PN make this almost like a “family” of sorts. I enjoy conversing with my friends on here on an almost daily basis and now, hopefully, it will be easier and even more rewarding. Is it different? Yes. Is change sometimes difficult? Yes. But I think in the long run the changes you guys have made will make this place something really special. It almost feels like this is a Christmas present to all of us and for that I want to extend my heartfelt thanks!!

        • Don M

          December 21, 2010 at 3:30 pm

          TheFightins is done… I work with Meech (who used run the site) and he told me its just too much time
          and money, and he has a(nother) kid on the way.

          I want to get him posting over here, but i know he’s been busy

  13. betasigmadeltashag

    December 18, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    Robert you can not blame the new site on lower posts they have working out some kinks and the site has been up and down, also after the Lee signing which went on for days of posts, there has not been much news. I will agree slightly that the new site is a little busy for me also, but it is the posters and comments that make PHILLIESNATION the best blog. I am not sure I could get through a season without arguing with the Dipsy every week. And laughing at the stupidity of guys like Geoff and other negtive people on here Ted Bell seemed to come around a little lately so there is still hope for him.

  14. Chuck

    December 18, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Robert Kahn…

    NOTE the fact that it’s the weekend before Christmas and that people are busy and maybe don’t have time to post. And….I don’t reconginize you anyway. How much did you actually post on the old site??

  15. betasigmadeltashag

    December 18, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    So other than another World Series win, what would we all want for the Phillies this Christmas. I know individual awards do not win rings, But there is two I would like to see come back to Philly one is for Chase to come back huge this year and get the MVP. Something .325 120 rbi 31 HR. I know I am dreaming with those numbers, but I think if he can stay healthy it may be a great year for him. The second award which will never happen mostly because of the rotation is for Charlie to get Manager of the year. One more would be that they find ways to score runs for Cole and he gets 20 wins. One more that might be too far out there especially with little roy’s age is 4 20 game winners. Wouldn’t that be really cool. Ok one more which is by far the most far fetched none of the rotation or regular eight players go on IR all year.

    • Lefty

      December 18, 2010 at 7:51 pm

      LOL- Betasig- I’m glad I don’t actually have to buy you presents! You ask for alot! 🙂

      I predict Cole will get his 20 this year. Total I’d like to see 70-74 wins from the four. We can scratch out 30 more with whovever is the fifth starter and the pen.

      But mostly I just want to see a much healthier year, because if we get that, the numbers offensively and wins will all fall into place.

  16. Chuck

    December 18, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    All are great choices.

  17. Greg

    December 18, 2010 at 8:13 pm

    Wow, to whomever disliked the new site, I must wholeheartedly disagree. I have been begging for a login feature forever. I wouldn’t be surprised to see about 200 comments a night during the regular season, especially with the best Phillies site, TheFightins, gone. I’d have to say this takes over as the best, now.

  18. Chuck

    December 18, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    So here’s the weird part of this site that will take some getting used to…. using the “Reply” feature. The responses are right under the original post. I am used to just scrolling down and seeing responses. Now I might miss a response because it’s further up on the thread. Not sure how I feel about that.

    Lefty, In my mind I predicted 70 wins from the four. 20 Doc, 18 Lee, 17 Cole, 15 Little Roy. Throw in 10 from the 5th starter and that’s EIGHTY WINS just from the rotation!!

  19. Lefty

    December 18, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Chuck, whew 80 from the rotation! I just have this nagging feeling that Doc can’t possibly be as good this season as last. So I’m thinking he falls to about 17-18 wins, and Cole who deserved so much more last year might be the lucky one to get 20 this time. Even Carlton had trouble putting together back to back 20 win seasons. He did it only twice, but also had a few 13,15,16’s in a row too. And he was a first ballot HOF’er so I’m okay if Halladay falls off a just a bit this season, it happens to all the greats.

  20. betasigmadeltashag

    December 19, 2010 at 12:42 am

    I just notice the time stamp on the post is still an hour in the future. I think there is a little difference between Doc and Lefty and that is the first 3-4 years Lefty pitched on a real bad team a young team that eventually won it all but from 72-75? it was a pretty bad team. I think that if Charlie can grow with this team and learn how to rest some guys. I really think Ryan can and should play almost every day, but Chase a couple of times a month but more so Poly and JRoll almost once a week I would think. Also I am probably the only one that thinks Raul can play most days especially if you end up using a platoon in RF with Brown. But IMO I really think Ben Fran will everyday RF and Dom will be AAA at least for the month of April.

  21. GoPhils

    December 19, 2010 at 1:26 am

    I heard some talk about how locking up Lee will prevent us from locking up Hamels. This is not coming from the Phils, but just fan speculation. My response to this is that there’s no way the Phils could be this dumb. If Lee coming over would handcuff them in their control of Hamels, they would never have done it. Hamels might be the most valuable piece of the rotation, as he is young, homegrown, extremely talented, and still has upside. I would hate to see Cole leave and I know that Amaro loves him and Hamels loves it here. I don’t think he ever leaves here unless something really goes wrong in terms of his productivity and we just are forced to part ways.

    • Ted Bell

      December 19, 2010 at 7:04 pm

      Anything is possible when the payroll gets this big. RAJ stated at the Lee presser that the Phillies payroll had no more flexibility. If RAJ gets the feeling that Hamels is going to explore the market after 2012, it wouldn’t surprise me if he traded Hamels after 2011. The Royals just got a pretty good return for Greinke (who has two years left on his deal), the Phillies should be able to get something valuable for Hamels with a year remaining. It’s all pure speculation at this point though.

      Brookover looked at some possible scenario’s in his column today:

  22. betasigmadeltashag

    December 19, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Ted I just read that article, and do not really get it, Unless Lidge has another great season circa 08 the Phillies will not pay him 12.5 million they will be able to get a good closer either from the minors or FA. Raul comes off the books, Little Roy will retire after this year so that Cole can sign a long term deal that is slightly back loaded So yes the big four will only be around for one year, but Cole will be better in ’12 and some young guns from the minors should be ready to step up also. Even if they Keep Big Joe for two years at what he is ;making. I think Cole would sign for around 15-16 million a year and isn’t that what Oswalt makes? Any way this team will be fine for years to come in 3-4 years one of the best minor leagues in baseball today will be on of the better MLB teams in Phillie for years to come

    • Ted Bell

      December 20, 2010 at 7:39 am

      You’re describing one possible scenario. Another is that Hamels will want to test the market when he’s eligible. If he has two more good seasons, which is very probable, he’ll be about a year older than Sabathia was when he hit the open market. With big money being spent on pitching, I doubt he’ll be signing for $16M a year when he could be getting $22M a year.

      The team also has said they want to be a lot closer to a $150M payroll than a $170M payroll. There are plenty of variables that will determine if they get their wish. Is Rollins resigned? Is Polanco’s 2013 option picked up (when he’ll be 37)? It’s really hard to even project the Phillies’ OF in 2013. We all hope that Brown lives up to the hype, but that’s not a lock. Victorino is a free agent after 2012, and it’s anybody’s guess who’s playing LF by then.

      Also, I doubt that Oswalt will be in Philly for 2012, but when did he say he was retiring? He’ll be 34 and I’m sure plenty of teams will be interested in his services.

      I’m Ted Bell.

  23. Brooks

    December 20, 2010 at 8:06 am

    I really got myself in trouble last year with my predictions – it was a rough season. To predict a 20 victory season for Cole – 80 wins for our 5 starters – basically we are saying that everything should go right – on paper this is looking like a ‘no lose’ situation, kind of like last year? And I only say that because losing Werth to me is just about as important as gaining Lee – I’m sure emotionally the Lee signing is of more value but, losing the bat and defense that Jayson gave us is huge to this team – especially since it looks like there is nobody to replace him. Every RH powerhitting OF is now off the market.

    If good health blesses our summer and the stars are aligned, we are looking at another NL East Division title. If the bats falter and we suffer injuries similar to last year, its a possibility we must accept that the Braves have enough pitching and bats to take the title from us. PUKE!

    Hey, if Rollins struggles again, if Utley cannot regain his stature as an MVP candidate – there will be a lot of movement next year. This year is tell all folks (I agree with Andrew).

  24. betasigmadeltashag

    December 20, 2010 at 11:47 am

    doesn’t the Lee signing show people will take less to play here, especially to someone like Cole, at his age he can take a more back loaded contract, and the Phillies will be in the ball park when it comes to signing him. And Little Roy has mentioned Retirement once this contract is up, of course that is when he was playing in Houston. If the Phillies want to retain these guys they will find a way to do it, especially the ones that have come up through the system.

    • Ted Bell

      December 20, 2010 at 12:27 pm

      The Lee signing showed us that Cliff Lee would take less money to play here, but who knows what Hamels and his agent are thinking? Did Jayson Werth stay when a bigger offer was on the table? Every case is different. This is all premature speculation anyway…a lot can happen in the next two years…

      I’m Ted Bell.

  25. Don M

    December 21, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    this whole new setup is going to take some getting used to…

    I got emailed a cool, ‘Twas the night before Cliffmas, thing i’ll share, but it should be its own post, its that good

  26. Brian Michael

    December 23, 2010 at 8:13 am


  27. Josie Lowery

    December 24, 2010 at 2:30 am

    All are great choices.

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