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2011 Gameday

Gameday: Reds (25-23) at Phillies (29-18)

Cincinnati Reds (25-23) at Philadelphia Phillies (29-18)

Johnny Cueto, RHP (2-1, 1.45 ERA) vs. Vance Worley, RHP (2-0, 1.12 ERA)

Time: 7:05 p.m. Citizens Bank Park
Weather: Chance of thunderstorms, 79
Twitter: Phillies Nation

I sure did enjoy that seven-run third inning last night, didn’t you guys? What’s more, it sure was fun to see Chase Utley back in red pinstripes, even though he did go 0-for-5. Tonight, we get more of the same, as the Phillies pray their good offensive fortune from last night carries over against Johnny Cueto. Cueto has only made three starts so far this season, but he’s done quite well, with 14 strikeouts and a WHIP of 1.02 in 18 2/3 innings. Cueto’s been something of a familiar face for Phillies fans over recent years. Though he’s only made five starts against Philadelphia, including the playoffs, in his career, two of them were memorable battles against Cole Hamels: the first was a 22-1 loss in 2009 that got so out of hand shortstop Paul Janish came in to pitch, and the other was the losing end of Hamels’ Game 3 complete game shutout in last year’s NLCS.

I know we gripe about the Phillies’ offensive struggles, but as fans of one team we’re often somewhat myopic about our complaints. If there’s another good team that’s run into as much bad fortune as the Phillies, the Reds might be it. They started 5-0 and as recently as a week ago were eight games over .500 and a game and a half up in the division, but since then the Reds have lost six on the trot, by a combined 24 runs, and fallen out of first place in embarrassing fashion. Not like you ought to feel bad for them or anything–I hope the Phillies win by 15 runs.

Vance Worley takes the ball for Philadelphia this evening, in what could be the first of many appearances as the Phillies’ No. 5 starter, depending on how bad Joe Blanton’s elbow actually is. Which brings me to an important point: Vance Worley needs a nickname. I mean, not like his given name isn’t awesome enough, or that “Vanimal” isn’t a good start, but I think we can do better. If you have ideas, leave them in the comment section. Extra points will be awarded for anything menacing, goofy, or alliterative.

Oh, and I bet you didn’t know this (I had no clue until I checked the date on Wikipedia), but today is the anniversary of the first night game in MLB history, contested May 24, 1935, between…the Reds and Phillies, believe it or not. So that’s pretty cool, huh?


Rollins SS, Utley 2B, Polanco 3B, Howard 1B, Ibanez LF, Ruiz C, Brown RF, Mayberry CF, Worley P

Your Gameday Beer– Free State John Brown Ale

I was paging through Wikipedia, and a bunch of interesting stuff happened on May 24. Plus it’s my fiancee’s birthday, and while I feel a personal obligation to honor that date with tonight’s beer recommendation, I know full well that none of you guys give a crap. Therefore, in honor of the (and I hope this is less convoluted than it sounded in my head) 155th anniversary of the Pottawatomie Creek massacre, I give you Free State Brewing Co.’s John Brown Ale. Brown, as you may know, was not only a rational anti-slavery militant in the Bleeding Kansas era of the antebellum west, he famously raided the federal armory in Harper’s Ferry, Virginia (now West Virginia) in 1859 with the intention of arming the slaves and starting a rebellion in the South. Of course, that raid was put down by the 2nd U.S. Cavalry that included future Confederate generals Robert E. Lee, who led the unit, and J.E.B. Stuart. Of course, I can’t imagine many of you give a crap about John Brown either.-by Michael


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  1. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Much bigger test tonight.

    Coming in the pitching match up should favor the Reds.

    Very glad the old man used the same line up.

    Worleys first time facing a a start vs a real team and line up. As his other 2 starts were vs the Mets and Senators.

  2. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Glad to see Worley back. I liked what I saw from him.

  3. The Dipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Vance Worley will never go back to the minors again.

    The Dipsy

  4. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Ah well, there goes the no-hitter…

  5. The Dipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    What….who….what. Why wasn’t Ibanez anywhere close to that ball? Jesus. Did it at least hit the fence?

    The Dipsy

  6. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Bad luck there for Vance

  7. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Owie… and there’s the shutout. Let’s see how Worley handles the pressure…

  8. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    I thought the same thing Dipsy
    He was making it look like a homer
    When it hit off the base of the wall.

    Dunno if he could have or should of caught it but he looked a little lost

  9. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    YES! Nice K!

  10. TheDipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Gimme a effin break AFW. That ball shoulda been caught. It was a deep fly. This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. The score is now 1-0 and as far as I’m concerned that run goes on Ibanez. He is now a -1 for the game. That is so totally lame. How can Charlie sit in the dugout and what that sh@t.

    The Dipsy

  11. TheDipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Don’t you people just wanna pull your hair out when you see a guy on YOUR team play the field like that? Just put a cardboard cutout in LF.

    The Dipsy

  12. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Dipsy I dont have a DVR
    Or Id go back and look
    All I am saying is I am not sure HE would have caught it

    A good fielder would have I am sure

    Dipsy most LFers are a detriment to the defense. thats why they play LF

    If the Phils get a RF like Pence. Id be happy with brown in left

  13. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    This is just ugly.

  14. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Vance is having NO LUCK

    as wheel is saying its a shame for worley

  15. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Yes Chase has gotten to run alot so far

    Hope he is in the line up tomorrow

  16. TheDipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    I can’t accept his level of incompetence. I’m sorry. He’s terrible for even a LFer.

    The Dipsy

  17. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    I like the way Vance is holding up to the pressure. He doesn’t seem to be letting it rattle him. Struck out a batter who had already seen him once. Nice work.

  18. krukdriver

    May 24, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    No panic Worley. Gotta like this kid.

  19. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    I thought that would be out of here, but I won’t complain about a lead-off double!

  20. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Luzinski, Burrell
    There is a history of this.

    But he needs to put up better offensive stats I agree

    Especially on the road where is is the worst.

    He is servicable at home with 18 RBI and all 5 of his homers and a .300 avg
    I could deal with the defense if he did that home and away

  21. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    What’s the deal with Worley’s fan club? What’s the significance of dressing up like waiters in a Greek restaurant?

  22. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    I hope Ibanez doesnt K
    Dipsy may stroke out 🙂

  23. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    And theres the RBI double
    Makes up
    Hes swining a bat at home that makes him very good

  24. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm


  25. TheDipsy

    May 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Nice hitting, Raul!

    The Dipsy

  26. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Who will never recieve one vote for the hall of fame

    But can play on my team every day of the week and 2 times on sunday

  27. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:37 pm


  28. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    I have a feeling Worley is going to be one of these guys who pitches better in the Majors Than he did in the minors.
    It happens

  29. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    What the hell was that? Glad to see Chase get a hit, but JRoll never should have gone.

  30. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Need to stop having guys thrown out at home.

    Not good

    Chase got his first hit

  31. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm


  32. therookie300

    May 24, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Keep on hitting Raaauuuullllll!!!!!!!!!!!!

  33. therookie300

    May 24, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    How many runs in Brown costing us in right?

  34. Jeff

    May 24, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    I like Vance but you cant walk the horrible pitcher. he is not even a player…come on boy

  35. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    You got to ask yourself if Blanton would be pitching any better than Worley, I think – no.

  36. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    You cant stop David Herndon only try to contain him.

    Lets get 3 innings from the big horse tonight!

  37. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Worley is the 5 starter now

    Too bad Blanton we cant even give away now

  38. Tracey

    May 24, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    nicely played by Howard!

  39. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Excelllent AB

  40. bacardipr05

    May 24, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Bad luck for Worley today the Reds are a good hitting teams an some balls fell.. Walking the Pitcher caught up to him….i still like that he held trough the pressure….glad Cholly made the right move an took him out….boy can Worley sweat….

  41. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    That just means he is well hydrated

    Worley could turn into a fun story for this year.
    something like that would be a nice distraction to the grind of going for 5 straight division titles

  42. bacardipr05

    May 24, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Big test for Stutes here…

  43. Sse01

    May 24, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Test passed.

  44. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Wow, just read the Baumann article and comments- Quite an afternoon here.

    • krukdriver

      May 24, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      The article that was supposed to be about trading for Hunter Pence turned into a Shane Victorino donnybrook.

  45. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    You missed all the fun
    Baumann tweeted he wanted to beat me up with Shanes gold gloves if he ever meets me.
    Which made my day
    That with the length of the commentariet column have made me promise to be better and not try to cause a ruckus.
    And I get the stat guys points etc etc.

  46. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Andrew, It was classic.

    I think The Dark Overlords thought we couldn’t view their tweets. And they call us Mos Eisley!

    You let the cat out of the bag, Big Brother now knows the lab rats can see them.

  47. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Need a big hit Chooch, raise your WAR!

    Ok a walk will do, no stats for good AB’s

  48. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Sometimes I worry you will get upset Lefty that I am going to far causing too much trouble.

    Phylan was tweeting to some Mets guy about how great Piazza is.
    Baumann said he couldnt go in and look but Phylan had gone in to fight the good fight.

    The stat guys come off sounding eliteist. They cant help it though.
    And I am glad they make columns I can comment on. Because I would not have patience to do a column and enjoy commenting.

  49. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    This could be a late night.

    I like the athleticism Brown and Mayberry bring. Just have to have enough patience for their full game to come along.

    Neither one of them can be doubled up on a typical GIDP, not that that is a such a great thing, but it shows the raw speed.

    • krukdriver

      May 24, 2011 at 10:00 pm

      Brown’s gonna be a stud – I sure hope Ruben doesn’t flip him for someone like Pence.

  50. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Thats not good.

  51. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    I am liking mayberry more the more he plays. At any position

    I like how he handles himself too

  52. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    I love watching a good fight. And I never shy away from controversy. I’m too old for bar fights, but I like the closest seat I can get.

    All I ever say is try to see it from both sides.

    I like people who are not fake. Be yourself and you can be my friend, whether I agree with your position or not.

    Oooh they almost got Stubbs

  53. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    It’s a shame to get an E-5 for a making a great play, hope they score it right.

  54. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Too bad for Madson

  55. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    I guess, not such a let night after all. Ugh-

    Well, no one can cry about Charlie not pitching Madson in a non save situation. (oops I forgot Big Brother is watching what I’m saying LOL)

    Can’t expect the a good team like the Reds to lose 7 straight games.

    We’re on ESPN tomorrow night, rather win that one.

  56. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    You cant win them all

    I do see signs of life from the offense and thats a good thing.

  57. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    I know there arent save situations tied in the 9th at home
    but Madson is now more comfortable in save situations

    He has finally learned its easier to close than be the set up man. Apparently Mitch williams and some other peopel were trying to explain that to him.

    I think he gets it now

  58. Jeff

    May 24, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    hey someone get madson a diaper. HE CRAPPED HIS PANTS.

    Hurry back brad we need you. Madson is a fake. A man that gets upset when things go wrong. Help Brad help. Hey Ryan you are a py…….We lost against this joke of a team. The pitcher cant speak english. Send him back baby…

    • Lefty

      May 24, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      Uh oh, Cancel the cable again!

    • Andrew From Waldorf

      May 24, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      That one makes your top 10 list.

      Remebering fondly Ledge and wanting him to come back

      not me

      Hope he can get some outs in the 6th or 7th

  59. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Madson will be a fine closer. Hope we can sign him.

  60. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Utley and brown to sit tomorrow vs the leftie

  61. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I just think someone will get dumb with madson and over pay him like the Nats did Werth and the Phils cant do that.

    The good news?
    Tomorrow is a Halladay

  62. Lefty

    May 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    You may be right. We better concentrate on our young arms and not count on Madson.

    Stutes and Bastardo show promise and the 57 year old Contreras will probably still be available. See you tomorrow

  63. Phylan

    May 24, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    How clever of you to discover my tweets Andrew!!! After I told you my Twitter handle. Regular Nancy Drew right here.

  64. bacardipr05

    May 24, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Be interesting to see how Madson handles his next save chance. This will be the test if he can be the Phillies closer for now an possible future…

  65. Phylan

    May 24, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    I don’t give a shit about his next save chance. Madson has proven, time and time again, that he is the best reliever on this team, and it’s not close. So let’s give him the most important situations that come up in the late innings of games, instead of worrying about arbitrary criteria like save/non-save situations.

  66. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    The profanity Phylan
    It offends me

  67. Andrew From Waldorf

    May 24, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    But if there is ever a save situation in 2011
    And Madson isn healthy and available and ready and he isnt used.
    In favor of a Conteras or Ledge

    And ill shit myself.

  68. Lina

    July 2, 2011 at 4:14 am

    Superbly ilmluianting data here, thanks!

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