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Daily Debate: Oswalt – Stay or Go?

Listen to today’s “Daily Debate” between Pat Gallen and Mike Gill of 973 ESPN FM in South Jersey. Today’s topic stems from last night’s wacky game: should the Phillies keep Roy Oswalt in 2012?

Oswalt is having a sneaky-good season, layered beneath missed starts, back issues, family concerns, and an odd start on Tuesday night against the Dodgers. His numbers (3-3, 3.05 ERA) suggest he’s doing just fine. His retreating velocity allows for lingering doubts.

Today, we look ahead – perhaps too far. Next season, Roy Oswalt has a mutual option for $16 million. That’s a lot of scratch at a time when the Phillies can barely scratch out a run.

The question is basic, yet complicated. Which side do you take? The one that says keep Roy Oswalt, the 4 Aces are too valuable. Or, the other that believes $16 million is better spent somewhere else?

Let us know who you side with on the issue by commenting below.


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  1. Dave

    June 8, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    i like oswalt and he’s been a great pitcher for years and a good pitcher for the phils but this team needs to get younger at several positions including starting pitcher. worley showed enough that he can a be a quality 4-5 starter easily next year and should be much cheaper. they could use that $16 million on a young right-handed corner outfielder or a younger middle infielder…

  2. TheDipsy

    June 8, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    Go. 4 aces is a luxury when your offense blows.

    The Dipsy

  3. Emile

    June 8, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    If that money we save for not paying Oswalt could be used for Reyes and extending Madsen and Hamels, I’m all for it

  4. Don M

    June 8, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Worley has a career 3.91 ERA in the minors, with a 1.30 WHIP (which is decent) just about 7 k/s per 9

    its not like he was doing amazing things and is some can’t-miss prospect..

    Worley has a chance to be pretty good, but to put our eggs in his basket, get rid of Oswalt, and hand Worley a starting spot in the rotation kinda scares me

    That said… Oswalt looks disinterested in the times i’ve seen him pitch.. He looks like he’d rather be somewhere else

  5. Don M

    June 8, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    I think people aren’t giving enough credit to the fact that we’re in first place… the purposfully spent money on pitching instead of offense because that is what wins … as evidence by most World Series champions, and the fact that we’re currently in 1st place

  6. TheDipsy

    June 8, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Don – We won’t win the WS with this offense. Look at our record when we score three runs a game or less, which is just about half the time. In the playoffs, where the pitching is better, expect to score three runs or less at least half the time. Balance wins championships.

    The Dipsy

  7. Andrew From Waldorf

    June 8, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    But wouldnt this team still be in first without Lee or Oswalt?
    Nevermind that youd get something in return. That would make you better?

    There is something going on with Oswalt. So maybe other teams wouldnt even want him.

    It looks like his back is hurt or he is just upset about the tornado in his home town or something.

    As with any trade or deal depends what youd get back..
    If it makes the team better make the deal.

  8. Shaun

    June 8, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    We need a bat to compliment what we have. We have the power and a contact guy but we dont have that 3rd reliable bat right now with utley on the mend. We need to spend that money on someone to take pressure of howard, utley, and victorino to perform. A spark plug like a Jose Reyes because Rollins just is not getting the job done anymore.

    So take that money and go get someone who hits and can support our team when the offense goes into the collective slumps

  9. The Original Chuck P

    June 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Worley is a back end guy… a 5 at best. I like the Vanimal but I also understand that he is what he is. Like Kendrick, we can’t get enamored by a stretch of good starts. Young pitchers have an advantage over the hitters – they are unknown commodities. Hitters haven’t seen them so they don’t really know what they throw.

    With that being said, I’m not sure if the Phillies will want Oz back at $16 million and I’m not sure if he really wants to come back. I think that he’s ready to ride off into the sunset but he probably won’t leave money on the table. It’s probably going to be a game of posturing… the Phillies will probably try to bluff Oz into thinking that they’re going to bring him back and Oz trying to bluff the Phils into thinking that he won’t retire. At the end of the day, a buyout might be the best thing for all parties. I’m not saying that Oz can’t be effective for one more season but at $16 million, it’s a stretch to think that we would want him back. Not sure there is anything on the farm but $14million (his $16 million salary less a $2 million buyout) could really help us fill some holes. I would almost be inclined to go with Worley or someone else as the #5 starter and seek out a free agent for the four spot.

  10. Chuck

    June 8, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    I think that’s the way Oswalt is. He sort of gives you the impression that he’s not interested or whatever….but I just think it’s his general demeanor. On another thread Jeff referred to him as a “d i c k”……which is unfair.

    But is he worth $16M?? I don’t know. I like this kid Worley, but, like others have said, is getting rid of Oswalt and just handing a rotation spot to someone like Worley the right thing to do?

  11. bacardipr05

    June 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    I say keep him if we can off load Blanton some how.

  12. Ron

    June 8, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I would keep Roy Oswalt if he does’nt retire and if the price is right for the Phillies but we’ll see as for next year if Oswalt leaves I hope Vance Worley will be ready for a full season i’ve seen enough of Kyle Kendrick as a starter.

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