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Bats Once Again Fall Silent In Loss To San Diego

Shortly after learning that they’d lose Cliff Lee for at least 15 days to a left oblique strain, the Phillies had their 13-game win streak in San Diego snapped in a 5-1 loss.


– The Phillies had just three hits tonight, and one of them came off the bat of Roy Halladay.

– In the fourth inning, the Phillies wasted a gift from the Padres. After Polanco led off the inning with a single, Jimmy Rollins reached on a fielding error by shortstop Jason Bartlett. With two on and nobody out, Hunter Pence struck out on a fastball up in the zone, and Shane Victorino flew out to center. Following a walk by Ty Wigginton to load the bases, Galvis was retired on a lazy fly to center. Two on,  nobody out. No runs. It’s becoming a familiar story.

– This team is not coming through on situational hitting, as the fourth inning indicates. They’re now hitting  just .227 with runners in scoring position, and .179 with two outs and runners in scoring position.

– The Phillies came within one out of failing to notch an extra base hit for the third time this season. However, Wigginton bailed them out with a meaningless double to score Rollins in the ninth. The Phillies are 0-2 in games in which they fail to slug an extra base hit. They’re 7-6 in games in which they register an extra base hit. Though it is a limited number of games, this statistic is more evidence that the Phillies biggest problem offensively is a lack of pop. This team is capable of stringing a few hits together; the problem is they’re predominantly singles. When it comes to scoring runs, extra base hits are crucial.

– For the first time this season, John Mayberry Jr. did not get the start against a left-handed pitcher. He did have a pinch hit appearance against Luebke in the eighth, but struck out, looking lost in the at bat. There’s not too much more you can say about Mayberry right now. He’s been a far cry from the man we saw in the second half of last season. Still, it’s early, and the law of averages suggest he’ll come out of this terrible funk.

– The Phillies have scored 2 runs or less in 9 out of 15 games this season.

Pitching and Defense

– Halladay and Brian Schneider were battery mates for the first time since 2010, and though he pitched well, Doc didn’t look quite like himself being paired with Schneider. He went 7 innings, allowing five hits, with four walks to five strikeouts. It took him 117 pitches to get through seven. The walks and high pitch count made for an uncharacteristically inefficient start by Halladay’s standards. Still, he only allowed two runs, and certainly pitched well enough to win. To borrow the familiar term, he battled tonight.

-In the second inning, Doc did something he has never done before. After striking out Nick Hundley to start the inning, the good doctor issued three straight walks to load the bases. It was the first time in his career that Halladay had ever done that. He was bailed out though when Freddy Galvis made a fantastic play, diving to his left, and throwing to first from his back to get Orlando Hudson. The play was superb, and that’s something we’ve come to expect from Galvis as he has been nothing short of amazing at 2B this season. The Padres would score a run on the play, but Galvis’s effort allowed Halladay to get out of a bases loaded jam with minimal damage when he struck out Cory Luebke in the subsequent at bat.

– Walks have been something of an issue in the early going for Doc. After walking just seven batters through all of April last season, he already has eight walks this season. There is not too much cause for concern, however, as Halladay has walked more batters in the month of April than any other month throughout his career.

– Michael Stutes pitched a rough 8th inning. After getting the first two outs, he walked Cameron Maybin, opening the door for a three run rally by the Padres. With a player like Maybin at the plate, who was hitting just .167 coming into the game, Stutes has to be more aggressive and get the out there.

– Four of the Padres five runs came with two outs.

Game Notes

– Halladay has yet to throw a home run ball this season.

– This was another demoralizing loss for the Phillies as their starting pitching was once again good enough to win the ballgame, but the bats failed to pull their weight.

– Despite the loss, chances are this day will be remembered more for the injury to Lee than anything else. After starting the season with Howard and Utley on the DL, the Phillies now take a hit to their greatest strength–starting pitching. The injuries, coupled with the current lack of offensive execution, certainly make it seem as though the Phillies are a snake-bitten team right now.

– The Phillies go for the series victory tomorrow when they send Joe Blanton (1-2, 4.26) to the mound against rookie righthander Anthony Bass (0-2, 3.38). The Phillies haven’t lost a series in San Diego since 2006.

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  1. Andrew from Waldorf

    April 22, 2012 at 12:08 am

    The good news.

    I won a couple hundred at the track tonight.
    I have Luebke in fantasy and tongiht helped.

    The bad news.

    I had a choice between fat Joe tomorrow and the Padres skell for sunday in fantasy and I took fat Joe.
    I could use the win and some Ks. So have a burger for me in the morning Joe.

    • Ryne Duren

      April 22, 2012 at 12:18 am

      good for you AFW! lol

  2. Ryne Duren

    April 22, 2012 at 12:16 am

    i don’t blame schnieder being the reason for doc’s off day with control, stuff like that happens to the best. however schnieder can’t throw! he couldn’t even reach the bag! yes maybin had a good jump but a good throw would have made it close. and then of coerse maybin scored on a hit. then stutes was charge with a wid pitch when it clearly was a passed ball! and if chooch wasn’t able to play because of his wrist being swollen who’s the backup catcher? if schnieder gets hurt who the hell catches? i don’t know what’s going on but it seems to me the whole organization is in a funk! schnieder should be released, kratz should be brought up , poly should be designated or traded, luna should be brought up. we need to see if anybody can hit or we’re in deep doo doo! not that we’re not already in it.

  3. Andrew from Waldorf

    April 22, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Just read some of the older threads. I dont think Chuck A is going to ever be happy for me 🙁
    That hurts me on the inside because I like him.

    Regarding all the other points. When you field a team this old its part of all of it.
    The franchise is in a funk because of Ruben.

    He chose to do this even with the best salary situation in baseball.
    He is on the Omar Minaya path to ruining a franchise.

    Its tough as a fan to watch it happen. But its been going on for years.

  4. EricL

    April 22, 2012 at 1:00 am

    So, where’s all those folks who were predicting an MVP type season from Pence?

    (Hint: MVP’s dont swing at pitches over their goddamn head)

    If you want to see what a real MVP candidate looks like, watch a Dodgers game.

    • brooks

      April 22, 2012 at 8:30 am

      Pence definitely has some issues he needs to fix – he probably believes that he is the only hope the Phils have for a winning season. This is a distraction -just look at how Howard has fallen in grace over the past few years.

  5. Andrew from Waldorf

    April 22, 2012 at 1:15 am

    Pence is a free swinger.
    With a big loping swing.

    Best suited for a team with a few disciplined hitters and he sticks out as the free swinger in the middle. Not at all a good fit for the Phillies.

    MVP on the Phillies who isnt a pitcher?
    That wasnt me.


  6. bacardipr05

    April 22, 2012 at 4:40 am

    Stutes is terribly off. Even in the outings where he got through them he was throwing garbage stuff and hoping for the best. I like Sutes but he has to do better. I had a sense when he was bought in it was like Cholly was waving the flag.

  7. Fritz

    April 22, 2012 at 6:31 am

    Retool means revise or reorganize.Something the Phillies don’t need. They are fine just the way they are.

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  9. TheDipsy

    April 22, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Thanks, Fritz.

    A decision to turn a roster over must be a very difficult one. I also think that the smart GMs know to start doing it before it becomes obvious to everyone else that it needs to be done. I think that in the Phillies case, Ruben can do it and still field a playoff offense next year. Everything that is happening to the Phillies now, while regrettable, are things that are completely reasonable and forseeable given the age of the roster. The team got old. Its a very hard thing to keep blending youth with age year after year while still staying a WS team and payroll contraints. The Phils didn’t do it and now they are too old. I think Cliff Lee will be shut down. Thats a bad injury for a pitcher.

    I think Ruben should try to make few trades this year with an eye towards next year. Then he can look at the FA market in the winter. If Shane wants 5 years, he is not gonna get it. I think two years in enough. Galvis can stay at second. Putting actual offense at 3B and LF is gonna make this team look a lot better. Its time to change, I think.

    The Dipsy

  10. Chuck A.

    April 22, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Fritz…please tell me you are indeed serious.

  11. Chuck A.

    April 22, 2012 at 9:15 am

    I’m not counting this season out at all. It’s way too early for that. But if you’re looking to the future…as in next year…. I think the following needs to happen:

    – As expensive as it will be, try to re-sign Cole. Young, home-grown lefties don’t grow on trees.
    – Insist that Ryan Howard work hard all winter long so he is in top baseball shape for the start of the ’13 season. Anything we get this year is great, but I really don’t expect too much.
    – Keep developing Freddy Galvis. He’s the future of this infield. It’s time to face the fact that Chase is not coming back to play consistent, meaningful baseball.
    – Same with Domonic Brown….unless he can be packaged in a good trade. If he’s consistently hitting well at AAA on June 1 and this offense is still scuffling, I would bring him up here for good.
    – Re-sign Vic, but NOT at 5 years. 3 years tops, maybe with an option?
    – Do NOT pick up Polanco’s option.

  12. TheDipsy

    April 22, 2012 at 9:26 am

    Chuck – I would not turn down a chance to improve my club for next year if it means sacrificing a bit for this year. I think this is a “take a step back” year. This club does not have the personnel to contend. My plan for this season:

    Trade Joe
    Trade Polanco
    (not saying you can get a ton for either)
    Stick Galvis at 2d and keep him there

    And the biggie: If you can’t sign Cole by July, then you HAVE to trade him. If he’s not signed ny then, he’s not gonna sign. You cannot let walk and get nothing in return. A bitter pill to swallow. But you can get a ton for him.

    A big FA in the winter and a few smaller ones and you’ll be set. If someone wants Jimmy, you can trade him and move Galvis to SS.

    The Dipsy

    This is harsh medicine but in my mind necessary.

  13. TheDipsy

    April 22, 2012 at 9:28 am

    And please just trade Dom Brown. Someone will give you value for him.

    The Dipsy

  14. Chuck A.

    April 22, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I said not too many weeks ago that I wouldn’t be shocked at all if ne of the Big 3 spent some significant time on the DL. And, what do you know??…. Cliff Lee has landed there. Oblique strain?? Yeah…that’s at least a month. And who knows what else may pop up for these guys. So trading Joe would ONLY be an option if 1) all three are healthy 2) the Phillies are out of it by the deadline 3) Cole has indeed resigned. If Cole is traded you gotta keep Joe.

  15. TheDipsy

    April 22, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Joe is an FA, so he’s gonna walk anyway, Chuck. You can trade them both and then your rotation for next year becomes: Doc, Cliff, Worley (who I’m convinced can pitch), FA, Kendrick.

    The problem with all of this is that it goes against Ruben’s philosophy of needing to have absolute certainty in his roster. He is gonna have to understand that the pieces that he loses this year, he can and will pick up in the off season.

    The Dipsy

  16. SavannahPhilliesPhan

    April 22, 2012 at 9:59 am

    I haven’t had a opportunity to read all of the comments today or the articles, so if someone has already mentioned it ….sorry. I have recently read some of the comments that suggest trading Cliff Lee. I wouldn’t want to trade him anyway, but I think because of his first experience of being plucked out of the Phillies to be traded away for Doc, he made sure he has a NO TRADE contract. He wanted to end his career in Philly.

  17. bacardipr05

    April 22, 2012 at 10:13 am

    We have to keep Cole Dipsy..Every one else can be traded…I still have hope that Dom Brown can correct his problems enough…We preach youth and complain about aging/old stars but then want to get rid of the youngest of the Aces…??

  18. Chuck A.

    April 22, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Here’s the latest on Cole from MLBTR:

    “The latest from Buster Olney of

    There’s still no conversation between the Phillies and left-hander Cole Hamels on a new contract, Olney tweets. A high profile agent who doesn’t know Hamels told Olney (Twitter link) that between the Cubs, Dodgers, and other major players, the lefty will get a six-year offer as free agent. Other agents presume that at some point this season Hamels will be so close to free agency that he’ll test the market rather than sign with the Phillies, tweets Olney.”

    6/138. Ruben, just do it. NOW. Get it done.

    • Lefty

      April 22, 2012 at 11:03 am

      They can’t do this if there is no conversation. And which side stands to benefit from not talking? Not the Phillies.

      If however, these pundits don’t really know WTF is going on, if they are just shooting their mouths off to make news, then maybe there is dialogue. Who knows?

      • Chuck A.

        April 22, 2012 at 11:27 am

        Having “dialogue” doesn’t necessarily mean that you have to be talking all the time. Sometimes being silent is just as loud and effective and not always in a negative way. I still think the Phillies will get this done …. or at least have a very good chance of getting it done. Or maybe I’m just full of sh!t.

      • Lefty

        April 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm

        Haha, Or maybe we all are!

  19. TheDipsy

    April 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Think about this: Why would Cole sign NOW? The only way he would sign, I believe, is if he could get close to the deal he feels he can get on the open market. My guess is that Cole will get 7/175. I doubt Ruben is offering anything close to that. IMO, if it was gonna get done it woulda been done by now. Once Cain’s contract went down……well, that was very bad.

    The Dipsy

  20. Andrew from Waldorf

    April 22, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Dom Brown should have been traded a year ago when he had value.

    The greatest GM in the world has turned the #1 prospect in the sport into valueless.

    But its what he does.

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