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2012 Gameday

Gameday: Phillies (23-23) at Cardinals (25-20)

Philadelphia Phillies (23-23) at St Louis Cardinals (25-20)

Cliff Lee (0-2, 2.66) vs. Kyle Lohse (5-1, 2.91 ERA)

Time: 8:15, Busch Stadium
Weather: Sunny, 79
Media: Twitter and Facebook

The Phillies and Cardinals combined for nineteen runs on 33 hits in last night’s wild game. Eleven of the 33 hits were for extra bases, and the starting pitchers surrendered a combined thirteen earned runs.

Expect nothing like that tonight, as two pitchers–Cliff Lee and Kyle Lohse–will take the mound tonight with ERA’s under three. Lee has been exceptionally great away from home, as he’s only given up one earned run in 16 innings away from Citizens Bank Park, along with a very low .170 AVG against.

He’s also been pretty darn good against this current crop of  Cardinals hitters, as collectively they’ve only posted a .230 average against him. The best hitter against Lee would be Rafael Furcal, as he’s 4-10 against the Phillies lefty with a triple, a home run, and 2 RBI. The worst would be Carlos Beltran, who is 2-12 against Lee, although both hits were doubles. Interestingly, Cardinals pitcher Kyle Lohse has a double off Lee in three career PAs against him.

As for Lohse’s pitching, he’s having the best year of his career so far. His 2012 ERA would be his career lowest, as would his strikeout rate and K/BB ratio. He’s been one of the better pitchers in the NL this year, and has decent numbers against the Phillies in his career. He’s posted a 3.43 ERA in ten starts against them, and has a .286 AVG against to the current group of Phillies hitters. Hunter Pence has a .318 average against him, Placido Polanco has a .333 average against him, and Ty Wiggingon, who will get the start tonight at first base, has a .533 average against him over his career. Tonight will be nothing like last night’s game in terms of offensive output, but will surely deliver the same level of excitement on the pitching side of things.

Lineup: Rollins SS, Pierre LF, Pence RF, Ruiz C, Victorino CF, Wigginton 1B, Polanco 3B, Galvis 2B, Lee P


When the Phillies are in St. Louis [or hosting the Cardinals], we always go for the smooth, crisp, cheap taste of Busch beer. Tonight, we’ll go light for you, to ease you back into it. They don’t call it “easy drinkin’ for nothin’. This is an underage drinkers dream out in the sticks. Many a time you’ll find empty cans scattered in a wooded area from the local punks. It’s still $15 for a 30 pack, if I’m not mistaken. But really, Busch won’t kill your taste buds, either. It’s not the worst light beer ever invented, but it’s also far from the best. –By Pat


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  1. teejvee

    May 25, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Can’t feel good about this game.Cards lineup laden w. righties.I see them scoring a ton.
    Phils? Don’t see it.

  2. Jeff

    May 25, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    God lee is bad. Trade him. The little span hit one out

  3. teejvee

    May 25, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    He’s not going to last long tonight.

  4. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Good for the Phils scoring. It’s really difficult to see Lee & Halladay performing at mere mortal levels, we have gotten used to the elite. I cant imagine the Phils scoring more than 4 or 5 at the most tonight but lets see..

    • schmenkman

      May 25, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      Halladay’s ERA is higher than it’s been, but as you may know, Lee’s ERA (2.82) is lower than in either 2009 (3.22) or 2010 (3.18).

  5. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 10:47 pm

    A 1-2-3 by Jose was just too much to ask for

  6. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Shaaaane Victorinoooooooo! How sweet.
    The Phils should rap this game up now!

  7. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 10:56 pm

    Now that was a quick 1-2-3
    Thanks for taking that first pitch there Jimmy

  8. Jeff

    May 25, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Come on phillies. My rangers get knocked out by a bunch of nobody’s

    Devils stink.

  9. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    Paps or stick with Diekey?

  10. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    sets up a double play, right?

  11. Andrew from Waldorf

    May 25, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    The Phillies announcers are going to try to sell the fans the BS that the NL east is the best division in baseball?


    They are shameless.
    The weakness of the division is what is going to keep the phillies in long term.

    It may be the best div in the NL but it isnt by alot if it is.
    And the AL division poop on it.

    I guess though setting it up if they finish last they can be the greatest last place team ever.
    Like the last 2 years when the best team lost in the first and second round respectively.

  12. Andrew from Waldorf

    May 25, 2012 at 11:09 pm

    Im crossing my fingers here Brooks

    The true exxon valez here

  13. Andrew from Waldorf

    May 25, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    The ship didnt sink

    On to extras

  14. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    St. Louis missed the opportunity there AFW

  15. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Amazing, Pence is 1 for his last 17 and I dont know how many left on base

  16. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    Like Cholly says, its the last atbat that counts! Way to go Pence!

  17. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Let me ask this simple question to my PN friends – AFW, Lefty, Bacardi, Beta & the Chucks and Donny – nobody really liked the idea of signing a closer, regardless of his reputation of being the best (arguably) closer in all baseball in the past 10 years for this amount of money or length of contract – so I ask you, what is the only way this contract could prove its mettle and prove Rube to be the boy genius –
    – a near flawless season like we saw in 08? (not much to remember if the Phils fall short in the post season)
    – at least 3.5 out of the 5 years to see stellar pitching like he had in Boston? We have to agree that seeing 5 years of awesome pitching and good health will never happen but will 3, 3.5 or even 4 be worth it? I’d say yes – toss in a few championships along with that and I would agree that Rube is the boy genius for signing Papelbon to this type of contract – will it happen in reality? In my dreams perhaps!
    14 for 14 is just what we’d hope for. Can he keep it up?

  18. Brooks

    May 25, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Awesome win BTW, very awesome

  19. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    May 26, 2012 at 6:37 am

    Great overall win. How about the strike that Shane through to Freddy and Freddy to Ruiz to get thug life wanna be Molina? Awesome!

  20. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    May 26, 2012 at 6:39 am


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