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Phillies Get Swept Out Of Canada

Jim Thome makes home run history.

Losing 6-2 to the Toronto Blue Jays capped off the Phillies 12th loss in 15 games and the third time they have been swept in a series this season.

Thome makes history –

Jim Thome hit his fourth home run of the season in the second inning becoming just the fourth player to hit at least 100 home runs with three different teams.  The other three are Darrel Evans, Reggie Jackson and Alex Rodriguez.  Thome hit his home runs with the Phillies, Indians and White Sox.

Thome’s home run put the Phillies on the board 2-1 and John Mayberry Jr. added his own long ball in the third to tie the game at two.  It was Mayberry’s second home run in two games and fifth for the season.  Mayberry was 3 for 4 on the day.

While the Phillies did add six more hits today, they would fail to cross the plate another time.

Kendrick being Kendrick –

This was the third consecutive start Kyle Kendrick has allowed at least five runs.  In his last three starts, he has allowed 16 runs compared to only five runs in four previous ones.  Since his complete game shutout May 26, his ERA is tipping the scales at 7.59 in just four starts.

Kendrick is no ace, but he knows how to pitch.  Rich Dubee is going to have to put some extra work into this one.  I don’t want to see KK headed back to the bullpen.

Looking ahead –

The Phillies will, hopefully, enjoy an off day tomorrow before welcoming in Colorado, Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh for a 10 game home stand.  This is a team leading the division, second in the National League, in hitting.  The problem lies in leaving runners on.  Better situational hitting is what’s going to get this team over the hump.

Philadelphia is sitting nine games back of the Nationals and six games under .500.  I won’t even try to pretend that I remember the last time that has happened.

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  1. Ken Bland

    June 17, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Well, Kieran, I do like the spirit underneath you that says you don’t want Kendrick moved back to the bullpen. After all, if he starts 5 more games, he collects a 100 grand bonus. More profitably, if he gets 10 more, he collects double that. I think it’s nice that you want to keep him in the rotation to allow for the pursuit of well spent money.

  2. Psujoe

    June 17, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    The shame of it is the Phil’s won’t recoupe much even if they are sellers.

    • Jeff Dowder

      June 17, 2012 at 7:57 pm

      Especially this year (at least as far as trading Victorino & Hamels). Teams receiving rental players will no longer be awarded draft picks if that player leaves as a free agent after the season. In past years they have. Under the new CBA, only teams losing a player they’ve had on their roster for a full season are eligible for draft pick compensation.

  3. Fritz

    June 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Don’t Care anymore.

  4. EricL

    June 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Kendrick is a AAAA-level pitcher. Not sure why he’s making $7.5 million for this an next year, other than, of course, AmaroLOL.

    Granted, the team they’re running out there isn’t very good right now, but the other thing is that with better management of the pitching staff and better play from the fielders this team could have won a good 5-6 of the games they’ve lost, which would put them right in the thick of things, and with reinforcements returning in the not too distant future.

    But that didn’t happen, and they’re mired in last place in the NL East and stuck behind a fist full of teams in the WC race. Not looking real good. I wonder what kind of return they’ll get for Victorino, and if they even think about moving Cole. Should be interesting.

    They should sign Manny Ramirez and Vladimir Guerrero just to make the rest of the season interesting. Or, maybe go with a modified OF, using just a left-center-fielder and a right-center-fielder so they can get Thome his 4 ABs/game. It’s time for some creative, entertaining and futile moves.

    • c schreiber

      June 17, 2012 at 8:56 pm

      Please NO, not that F—–g A– hole Manny. I will give up on them if they sign that J— O– and I’ve been a fan since 1951.

      • Chuck A.

        June 17, 2012 at 8:58 pm

        Tell us how you really feel, c. s.

      • EricL

        June 17, 2012 at 10:20 pm

        hahah, why? Who cares if he’s mental midget and acts a fool? What, are the Phils going to fall into last-er place?

        You have to admit it has the potential to be very entertaining, which, ultimately, is why we watch the sport in the first place.

    • Ryne Duren

      June 17, 2012 at 10:47 pm

      agreed to everything you said eric! cept the last paragraph. cholly would have an orgasm with all those boppers out there! but they would make pence look like a good fielder. they would sure raise the ave. age up.
      come to think of it eric it might be a good idea! jimmy would feel good about it.sorta like if you want to feel skinny hang around people not so skinny. rollins would look faster younger etc etc. even when he trots to first.

  5. bacardipr05

    June 17, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Just dont know anymore……Dejected….

  6. Catcher

    June 17, 2012 at 7:25 pm


  7. Chuck A.

    June 17, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    Well, look at the bright side…. the Phillies now come home where they have a 12-19 record…

    • brooks

      June 18, 2012 at 11:06 am

      The bright side is today they wont be losing

  8. phillystyle12

    June 17, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Well I knew in the beginning of the year we where going to have trouble
    the pitching staff was not sharp in springs training and your key hitters
    are out plus you pick uup joke player that are done, Why cant this
    organization do the right thing. Charlie Manual all ready knew we where
    in trouble from day one

  9. Andrew from Waldorf

    June 17, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    This is a bad bad bad bad bad team.
    Top to bottom.

    I do pledge to be here with my friend Chuck A. through good times and bad times.
    Because we are fans.

    • Ken

      June 17, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      Almost every NL east team lost this weekend so its not a huge deal. Washington was swept by the Yankees, Atlanta lost 2/3 to the Orioles so all is not lost. If they can stay within 6 of the wild card they still have a shot when people start getting healthy again. No team scares me. The Phils traditionally have played better in the second half of seasons too. Way to early to panic folks.

      • Chuck A.

        June 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm

        It IS a big deal because we had a golden opportunity to gain ground on a lot of teams.

      • Ryne Duren

        June 18, 2012 at 11:38 am

        ken i agree with you on the phils being a good second half team. however not this team! this is a different team. right now if you look at who’s on this team only 3 players rollins, vic and chooch are members of the teams that had good second halves. last year we ran away with the division and the year before there wasn’t much doubt in my mind that they would win the div. 09 yes 08 yes 07 definately good second halves but most of those players are gone now. and this current team doesn’t in mind from what i can see have what it takes to do that! not only have they not yet come from behind to win a game this year but it looks like they don’t have the heart! it’s hard to say that but there is no spunk at all on this team. that is why i think they’re doomed this year. i hope that they can change that, possibly with a managerial move and trading a few slackers.

  10. TheDipsy

    June 17, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    We can rebuild him. We can make him better than he was. Better. Stronger. Faster. Anyone wanna take at shot at that?

    The Dipsy

    • Dave

      June 18, 2012 at 11:39 am

      Dipsy…I believe you are talking about Colonel Steve Austin.

  11. bacardipr05

    June 17, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Ken that makes all the worse. This is why the Phils had to win to make up lost ground.

  12. JohnMatrix

    June 17, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    Ken- good post. Your right that no other team is scary. You watch teams like washington, NY, LA. They are winning, butt theyre not that good. Sloppy play, so so pitching but theyre winning. The phillies are more sloppy right now. Should be interesting to see if they can catch up. Till then at least we get to watch baseball every night, even if it is lousy baseball.

    • brooks

      June 17, 2012 at 11:36 pm

      I’d rather watch the game than be at the game to see little the league. Good money.

    • EricL

      June 18, 2012 at 10:55 am

      Um, Washington’s pretty damn good all around, save for a couple positional players that can’t hit, which is okay when you’ve got a pitching staff as dominant as theirs is. (Same reason the Phillies had a winning record through May 23rd last season despite running Wilson Valdez and Michael Martinez out there on a daily basis).

      That Nats are a good team, it just so happens that the Yankees are also really good. Better, in fact, than the nationals.

      • Lefty

        June 18, 2012 at 1:13 pm

        Not saying I agree or disagree, I don’t know enough about their team except that they seem to have a great pipeline of minor leaguers to step in when guys are injured.

        But I just happened upon this fact the other day, and it’s got me thinking they may not be as good as advertised.

        The Nationals record when Strasburg and Gonzales start games is 21-5 (seems unsustainable, but you never know)

        Record when all others start is 17-21. ( Not so good )

        If they are true to their word, and really will shut down Strasburg at 160 or so innings, I don’t think they are a real contender this year. Now if they add a Dempster or Garza at the deadline, that’s a different story.

  13. Psujoe

    June 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Need more time to see if they need to sell.

  14. Henry Crush

    June 17, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    We’ve had our run. I’v been a phillies fan since 1964 (Yep, I remeber that year) and have stuck with them for many a stinky year. Well, its back to the cellar again…another sub 500 year! Thankfully we have the iron pigs…a really exciting team that wins!

  15. bacardipr05

    June 17, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    Good article Jeff D, thanks for posting the link. However, most of what was said on it a good portion of the PNations poster pretty much known that for a while. Just before it was more “disguised” and this year its more “exposed”.

  16. Dave

    June 18, 2012 at 8:24 am

    I think the wisdom of Tom McCarthy said it best. “If the Phillies are going to get themselves out of this hole, they are going to have to play better.”

    • Chuck A.

      June 18, 2012 at 9:45 am

      He probably made that profound statement when he was in the middle of some sort of mindless babble with Sarge.

      • Dave

        June 18, 2012 at 11:35 am

        He most certainly did! Almost everything he says is mindless…

      • Dave

        June 18, 2012 at 11:37 am

        Dipsy…I believe you are talking about Colonel Steve Austin. I guess you have to be over 40 to get that one?

  17. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 18, 2012 at 8:41 am

    @Jeff Dowder: great article. Thanks for the link. I know it won’t happen, but I’d love to see Schmidt become the hitting coach.

  18. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 18, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Kendrick just doesn’t get the fact that he sucks major a$$ lately, and needs to work on his mechanics. The guy lives in a dream world:
    “I felt like I pitched a lot better than what my numbers showed,” said Kendrick, who lasted 6 1/3 innings, allowing six runs (five earned) on eight hits, while walking two and striking out four. “A couple mistakes they hit and didn’t miss. It’s a pretty good hitting team over there, I have to give them credit. I felt fine.”
    Ok, Kyle, everything is a utopia in Phillies land.

    • Ryne Duren

      June 18, 2012 at 11:50 am

      hey big ed! you know what ! if i was the manager and i heard that statement i chastize the $hit out him in the media. then i’d have a good conversation immediatly after befor he read it in the papers or online. i’d basically tell him that if he ever opens his mouth about that $hit after pitching like $hit he’d have a direct line back to A ball to learn how to pitch! after all he came from AA so i’d tell him you pitch worse than you did 6 yrs ago when you were in AA so you’ll go straight to A ball now get the eff out of my office!

      • Ryne Duren

        June 18, 2012 at 11:55 am

        oh yea big ed i’d tell blanton too! if you like philly and the fans as much as you say then pitch on you downward planr like you can. because when you don’t you suck! and if you suck too much you’re gonna be pitchin somewhere where you don’t like so much. now you get the eff out of my office! (hey Gross sent effin j-roll into my office please, and get vic ready he’s next)

  19. Ryne Duren

    June 18, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    hey everyone i’m sick of poly too! if i was running the show i’d rent a room at jefferson hosp. so that when poly gets nicked or tweeked or what ever his next minor nagging injury is he can just go check in and leave a text for us. all it has to say is ( i’m with jeff NOW) and then we can ajust the lineup accordingly!

  20. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 18, 2012 at 12:39 pm

    @Ryne: Awesome response! That is the type of fire the Phils need from a manager. However, I think Cholly is too chummy with the guys to bring them back to reality. When he lost a big gun or two in Cleveland, his inability to manage a game situation reared its ugly head and they let him go.

    • Ryne Duren

      June 18, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      thanks big ed ! i think you’re right though. it was a nice fantasy though. that said you hit it right on the nose. he’s too chummy! now in my mind that’s why RAJ should take him into the office and …… you get the picture pal. hahahaha

  21. brooks

    June 18, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    We probably don’t have to wait that long before Cholly is out of his job. The “retreading” has to start somewhere and where better than the top?

    The point is, you still cannot win enough with these guys.

    • Jeff Dowder

      June 18, 2012 at 6:21 pm

      Isn’t RAJ the top? After all, he’s the guy who assembled this roster. I’d like to see the manager who could win with this group of players.

  22. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 18, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    @Jeff Dowder: I think Tony LaRyssa would have a tough time winning with this crew. However, the close games, use of the closer, etc., etc., a manager like Tony would have got these guys to win. He isn’t afraid to bench a starter and doesn’t stand for the general malaise that Cholly does. I like Manuel. He was a great fit for the Phil’s when they were brimming with young talent, and had the clubhouse charisma to match. Now he is at the end of his managerial career, and, honesty, I don’t think he had the coaching staff or endurance to pound these guys the way a younger, hungrier manager (like Sandberg) would, or a Joe Madden of the Rays. If the Phils can’t turn the ship around, the fire sale needs to include a lot, and maybe even Ruben?!

  23. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    June 18, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Meant LaRussa. Damn iPhone keyboard.

  24. bacardipr05

    June 18, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    Pretty sure Rube is going to take a wait and see approach…but how much waiting and seen remains to be said…then what would he do? Unless they some how turn it around there is not much that can be done to right the ship… not this year..and next year they will have a tough time of doing it as well…Rube’s master plan didnt contain any or much contingencies built in…It was win with this group or bust… and “Bust” for the next 1-3 years at that..

    • brooks

      June 18, 2012 at 10:26 pm

      Wait for what and see what?
      Things to change? It looks as though they are getting worse and worse with little to no hope on the horizon. Sure, the beginning of July promises Utley and Howard but really, what can we expect?

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