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2012 Gameday

Gameday: Phillies (36-45) at Mets (43-37)

Philadelphia Phillies (36-45) vs. New York Mets (43-37)

Vance Worely (4-4, 2.92), vs. Jon Niese (6-3, 3.55)

Time: 7:10, Citi Field
Weather: Partly Cloudy, 84
Media: Twitter and Facebook

The last-place Phillies head to Citi Field to face the New York Mets, who are 3.5 games behind the Washington Nationals.  The Phillies have only won nine games since they last played the Mets, which was on May 30.  The Phillies can’t seem to find a groove as they have lost five consecutive games.

Looking to end their losing streak, the Phillies will start Vance Worley.  Since coming off the disabled list, Worley is 1-2 with a 2.70 earned run average.

Worley’s counterpart, Jon Niese, is coming off a tremendous month of June where he went 3-1 with a 1.89 ERA.  As of Monday, the Mets’ rotation is  fourth in the majors in ERA for starting pitchers.  Johan Santana and the emergence of R.A Dickey are the two main reasons, but Niese has also been a contributing factor.

We’re officially halfway through the season, and the Phillies have the worst record through 81 games since they went 23-58 in 1997.  Also, the Mets are 6-3 against the Phillies this season.  Things haven’t been good for the Phillies, but let’s not forget their reputation as a second half team.

Lineup: Rollins SS, Polanco 3B, Utley 2B, Ruiz C, Pence RF, Victorino CF, Wigginton 1B, Mayberry LF, Worley P

Your gameday beer: Corona

Why not celebrate the peak of the summer with an ice cold Corona. Nothing beats one of these on the beach, by the pool side, or while tending to a grill stacked with your favorite meats. Lime or no lime, it’s a refreshing reminder of the summer for many. Enjoy the next two months, because they’ll go by so quickly. -By Pat


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  1. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    In honor of the 4th of July, we have fireworks at the ballpark. Unfortunately, the fireworks are for the opposing team.

  2. Jeff

    July 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Shut up Tracy. Also get rid of Vance wild thing wanna be. He Sux

  3. David

    July 3, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Bad play by Mayberry to start off with. What the heck was he doing on that play? Is he terrified of walls?. He wasn’t even that close to to the left field line. Just gave them a run. Worley is completely off so far.

  4. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    Jeff: I really feel sorry for you that your life is so pathetic that you have to be a tool in blog comments to feel important.

  5. brooks

    July 3, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Who knows what makes Jeffy so pleasant but who really cares –
    Regardless, Vance does stink tonight

  6. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    This is just painful to watch.

  7. Ryne Duren

    July 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    coming soon fellas, i can smell it! they’re so predictable. phillies 36-46) mets (44-57) oh well!

  8. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Worley had been one of the few bright spots in this dismal year for the Phils.

  9. phills_nills

    July 3, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    please we need change!!!! a change of smell because this team and how its ran (management) stinks!!

  10. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    July 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    It seems the starting pitching ineptitude bug has at last finally infected Worley. Stick a fork in us this game, we are done. Does anyone no when we are mathematically eliminated from contention? Still holding out for hope until the all-star break, unless the math says otherwise. We need a complete reboot. Has any other team fallen from such great heights after winning a 102 games?!!! Morale has to be in the negatives.

    • Jeff Dowder

      July 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      The 1970 Reds won 102 games and fell to 79-83 in 1971. The 1993 Giants won 103 games and fell to 55-60 in the strike shortened 1994 season. They are the only two teams in baseball history to have at least 102 wins and fall to under .500 the following season. This Phillies team is on a 71 win pace. They’re flat out awful.

    • Ryne Duren

      July 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm

      yea big ed we were mathamatically eliminated yesterday! lol

  11. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    awful, awful, awful

  12. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    From First to Worst. That’s not the usual pattern. But really, this slide started last season, after we clinched the division and got complacent. This team hasn’t played right since then.

  13. David

    July 3, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    Is there anyone else whose employer has denied them a bereavement day based on the Phillies performance? HR says losing streaks are not grounds for bereavement days. You can take one day for a relative you never see but nothing for the doomed season of your favorite team.

  14. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @David: I haven’t tried that one, but in 2000, I wanted to write off my season tickets as a charitable expense on my taxes.

  15. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Just out of curiosity the other day, I checked on the Phillies’ ability to come from behind this year. They have NEVER come back from more than a 2-run deficit. Only once (May 30) have they won a game when they were 2 runs behind. They haven’t come back from a 1 run deficit after the 7th inning.

    • Tracey

      July 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm

      Of course, past history is not necessarily an accurate predictor of future performance.

      • David

        July 3, 2012 at 10:18 pm

        Starting this losing streak, they came back from a 6 run deficit against McDonald and a 5 run deficit against Burnett to make them 1 runs game.

  16. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 8:55 pm


  17. Tracey

    July 3, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Ugh. Just let this game end already.

  18. Ken

    July 3, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Good news from Milwaukee: Heath Bell allowed a 2 run homer with 2 outs in the 10th. Brewers win 13-12 ! So sad it happened to a guy like Ozzie Guillen.

  19. David

    July 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Why hasn’t Cloyd been brought up to the Phillies yet? 9-1 at Lehigh Valley with a 2.11 ERA. Could he be more effective than Kendrick? The Phillies need to give him a shot.

    • Brooks

      July 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm

      Better than Kendrick, Blanton, Lee and tonight Worley – hey, 3 of our 4 starters!

  20. chuck schreiber

    July 3, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    This is brutal…the f——g mutts.

  21. Chuck A.

    July 3, 2012 at 10:14 pm

    Yeah, well….better get used to it. The f———-g mutts are playing well and are better than the Phillies. Hard pill for some fans to swallow…….. but it’s true.

  22. Andrew From Waldorf

    July 3, 2012 at 10:14 pm


    No effort no heart

    Just quit charlie and get away from the embarrassment.

    I bet the captain of the Titanic wishes he could have bailed half into the journey.

  23. JohnMatrix

    July 3, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    This team has hit rock bottom. Swell. And that obama pop up at the top is not helping my mood.

  24. Andrew From Waldorf

    July 3, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    The Mutts lost all thier high dollar primma donnas and all the sudden are good?

    Its something people like Don just can never understand. Beltran can win the triple crown this year for St louis. But if he had done it for the mets it wouldnt have mattered. He drained them.

    It was all about chemistry.

    This is a bad mix for the Phils. Mets circa collapse years mix.

    At least tomorrow is a holiday.

    Losing 100 games missed my progression chart though.
    And I am losing my Mets-Phillies best record bet.

    Its laughable.

    • schmenkman

      July 3, 2012 at 10:50 pm

      It was all about chemistry.

      Not pitching, or hitting. Chemistry.

      • chuck schreiber

        July 3, 2012 at 11:40 pm

        I know your kidding schmenk, you can have all the love (chemistry) in the world but if you can’t hit, pitch or field it doesn’t matter. All you get with the chemistry is a bunch of “fellas”.

  25. Chuck A.

    July 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    @Jeff Dowder… Take comfort. The ’71 Reds might have fallen like that to a losing record after winning 102 in 1970….. But then they CAME BACK in 1972 and won 95 games and made a WS appearance. After that 99 wins, 98, 108, 102. Two championships. The Big Red Machine.

    • Jeff Dowder

      July 3, 2012 at 11:43 pm

      Chuck – Those Reds had a young nucleus just beginning their run. It’s the exact opposite here – an aging core at the end of their run. The proverbial window of opportunity has closed.

  26. Ken

    July 3, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Geez this is a tough crowd. The Phillies have made 2 WS appearances in the last 5 years. Arent they allowed a down year ? Geez we sound like spoiled Yankees fans.

    • Ryne Duren

      July 3, 2012 at 10:54 pm

      yea ken you’re so right! i’ve been fighten with myself and saying this and that! but i’ve finally come to realise that it’s a down year. it’s not as painfull when you think of it that way. still hurts to watch though. now is the time for the phils to see what they have down in the minors. if you’re gonna lose might asm well fight some stuff out and give the younger guys some experience. it’ll help the brass for any off season changes they are thinking about. no matter what happens the rest of this year they HAVE to sign hamels and get sandberg up here to manage. actually i think they should do that asap. it’s the quickest way to change the chemistry.

  27. Double Trouble Del

    July 3, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    Certainly a ritualistic firing or two is imminent.

  28. psujoe

    July 3, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Phils aren’t coming back this season. It is imperative that everyone not expected to be back or anyone of no value to the club next year be traded for maximum value. Pierre, Fontenot, Victorino…They must try to resign Hamels. If they can’t then get Olt or the 3b prospect from the Tigers. Other minor pieces should come with them.

    RAJ got a pretty good return for Thome IMO. He needs to maximize the rest. The team just lost too much firepower this year to compete. Get healthy and get some more minor pieces and with the extra money next year from Blanton, Vic, Contreras(that’s 18.5 right there).

  29. schmenkman

    July 3, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    Tracy, just curious — where did you see the stats on coming back from 2-run deficits? Also, do you know how the Phillies compare to other teams (presumably among the worst).

  30. Jeff

    July 3, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    Like pat the bad hair says. It’s early.

    Tracey tell mom I said hi.

  31. Darren Daulton

    July 3, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I just got back from my trip to Venus. What happened to the Phils? How are they so bad? Please let me know before I time travel back to 2008.

  32. Jeff Dowder

    July 3, 2012 at 11:47 pm


    “The Phillies are 8-21 since they were 28-25 and 2 ½ games out first place June 1. They have the worst record in baseball in that span.”

  33. psujoe

    July 4, 2012 at 12:05 am

    Pirates leadoff hitter is their LF and he stinks and he’s young. they can’t afford salary. It’s a perfect for for Pierre. get on it RAJ.

  34. David

    July 4, 2012 at 12:16 am

    Pierre can be exciting too watch sometimes. A relief from this team’s mediocre play. Remember the slap bunt double in the Florida game. Scoring on the wild pitch against Baltimore when almost nobody else would have. And, the first run scored in Sunday’s Marlins game.

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