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Bullpen Falters After Rally

The Phillies lost the final game of the series to the Atlanta Braves, 12-6.  The Phils had a huge rally, but the bullpen could not keep the game close.


-Kyle Kendrick finished the night with an unpleasant line: 3.1 innings pitched, seven hits, six earned runs, and three walks.   The Braves had a four-run second inning, with the biggest hit of the inning coming off pitcher Tim Hudson.  Hudson doubled to center field, driving in two.  The Braves would add two more runs off Kendrick in the fourth inning, thanks to Michael Bourn’s ninth home run of the year.  You know a pitcher is struggling when an opposing pitcher gets a huge hit and a player with a career .367 slugging percentage goes yard.

-After the game, Charlie Manuel discussed Kendrick’s role on the team.  According to Todd Zolecki of MLB.com, Manuel said he was unsure if Kendrick will remain in the rotation.  A discussion with pitching coach Rich Dubee will take place, determining Kendrick’s fate.  “We don’t have too many options,” Manuel said of the rotation.


-Jimmy Rollins hit a leadoff home run, but the Phillies quickly fell to a 6-1 deficit.  Rollins would later double in the fifth inning to bring home a run, kicking off a rally for the Phils.

-The Phillies rallied in the fifth, scoring five runs to tie the game at six.  Domonic Brown doubled to drive in a run, but the big blast came off the bat of Ryan Howard, who smashed a game-tying three-run home run.


-Entering tonight’s game, the Phillies’ bullpen had a 1.45 ERA since July 20: the second best in the National League.   The bullpen couldn’t get the job done tonight.

-In the seventh inning, Antonio Bastardo got two quick outs.  Jason Heyward doubled, and that led to a lot of trouble.  Chipper Jones and Freddie Freeman walked before Bastardo was replaced by Josh Lindblom.  The bases were loaded for Dan Uggla, and Lindblom couldn’t escape the jam.  Uggla lined a shot down the left field line, clearing the bases.  The Braves went up 9-6, and didn’t look back.  The Braves ended up scoring four runs in the seventh, and two in the eighth.


-Former Phillie Chad Durbin, who pitched a 1-2-3 sixth inning, was credited with the win.  Antonio Bastardo received the loss.

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  1. bacardipr

    August 8, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    I think they will give KK another start before deciding. He seems to do well out of the bullpen, they should keep him there. I also think its time for the Phils to get rid of Dubee. This whole teams needs tinkering a makeover or whatever you want to call it. I think its about time the Phils found a new pitching coach as well.

  2. arclight

    August 9, 2012 at 12:11 am

    The Phillies as we knew and loved them are over. Ruben Amaro wrecked this team beyond repair. I mean, lets be honest, What the hell can Amaro do to repair this team for next season? Their are no above avg 3rd basemen on the market. After Cabrera, and Bourns seasons they will command top dollar, and whos to say even if we can afford them they want to leave their situations? we need a whole new bullpen, we need two starting pitchers now, and after all the trades and acquisitions, the only thing Amaro has given us thus far is Ben Francisco back aka Scheirholtz. Howard is a non-factor in clutch situations 95% of the time, Jimmy Rollins is inconsistent with terrible hitting droughts, Utley is the biggest stiff at the plate in MLB, Hallidays will to pitch was broken in that 1-0 playoff game, C Lee is somewhere in-between brilliant and Slingblade. I honestly believe this team as we know it is beyond repair. All we can do now is count down the days to where Utley is gone, Howards contract is low enough to dump him to an AL team as a designated hitter, and Rollins steals his 33 mil and jets back to California. I would like to say it was fun while it lasted, but knowing that it didnt have to end like this reinvigorates the bitterness that I harbor within. This is not Manuels fault, not the batting, or hitting coaches fault, in actuality this is none of the players faults; they are just pawns. He who must bare all blame is he who made the moves. This is in the hands of a few men with Amaro at the head. He will go down as one of the worst GMs in baseball history. My wife will get the T.V. back between 7:05-11:00pm, and I will turn in all the more brilliant term papers to all my Professors, and in lieu of the Phillies collapse they will actually have time to read them. Finally, this team, as supposed of all matter must follow the second law of thermodynamics, moving ever closer through entropy to a final equilibrium; Perhaps a Citizens bank park equal parts empty, and filled seats, and a .500 ball club.

  3. bacardipr

    August 9, 2012 at 2:15 am

    Rube did try and get a 3B. He did try and move Polly and Blanton no takers. I do think Jimmy can do better and at times i feel he is simply going through the paces. No one is going to take Howard. No AL team is going to pay 25 million a year for a DH hitter. Especially one that is struggling at the plate . You are correct this team has its fair share of troubles. Utely was signed before Rube was GM. At the time the contract was great for the best 2nd Baseman in MLB. I do agree Utley contract is going to handcuff this team for another year. This is assuming he doesnt bounce back next year. Rube got a little Yankee on us and thought he could buy another Championship. We have 4 starters dont forget about Worley. Team needs are a fifth starter, 3B, CF and one or 2 bullpen guys. Rube has a lot of work cut out. One problem was Rube thought the core could compete for another 2 years. Figuring when the run was up he would re-tool the team. Unfortunately the brown stuff hit the wall earlier than was anticipated. While Rube is partly to blame i dont think it was 100% his doing either.

    • Ken Bland

      August 9, 2012 at 8:55 am


      Ya know, you did say no one IS going to take Howard, and that present tense holds to a lot of truth.

      And it doesn’t matter now, but I feel at least fairly confident that if he didn’t go down on the last swing of 2011, they’d have tried hard, and probably succeeded at moving him this off season.

      Might have cost them eating a lot of coin, but I have doubts he’d still be here.

      I know it’s sacreligious to give Amaro any credit, and I can’t back this up with anything other than hunch, but I think both Amaro and Manuel have grown tired at his lack of improvement at pitch selection.

      I guess that conclusion is based on how could you not be tired of it?

      It seems a little shallow to be critical of the guy, much as he’s done, but it is what it is.

  4. Jaron B

    August 9, 2012 at 5:39 am

    I like KK in the bullpen. Manuel needs to insist on Amaro calling up Cloyd despite him starting the year in AA Reading. After all, his audition can’t be worse than KK’s inconsistent numbers.

  5. artemis

    August 9, 2012 at 6:19 am

    Phillies Phans don’t forget it was Bastardo who loaded the bases leading CM to replace him with Lindblom who was too inexperienced to get out of the jam HE started in the first place! He needs to be replaced same as KK!

  6. Chappdaddy

    August 9, 2012 at 6:31 am

    In my opinion Kendrick is a lot like Ryan Madson, both have/had issues as a starter but pitch well from the pen. The thing with Kendrick is he doesn’t seem to bounce back from bad innings like most of the starters do, if Hamels has a bad inning it’s normally just one inning, if Kendrick has a bad inning it normally turns into two or three. Since I have a feeling that they have already mailed in this season just bring one of our young prospects up and see what they can do and put Kendrick back in the pen where he pitches better and could still help the team.

  7. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    August 9, 2012 at 7:54 am

    Dear Cholly Marbles,
    Kendrick needs to remain in the f@(king bullpen. Bring up Cloyd already! He might be the next Worley. Antonio hasn’t seen his shrink, and we’ve been waiting a year for him to come back around. It’s quite obvious he is not our go to set up guy, or the guy that holds a lead. Let’s give Horst a chance there; he’s earned it. This season is akin to have a splinter under your skin.
    Ed Delahanty.

    • George

      August 9, 2012 at 8:29 am

      Dear Big Ed,

      Manuel is not the only guy making roster decisions. He has to use what he’s got until the front office and the scouting staff decide someone else like Cloyd is ready.

      Bastardo had been having a string of good outings, so there was no reason not to have him in the game.

      Horst is getting a chance. He’s been in a number of games lately, in case you hadn’t noticed.

      • Ken Bland

        August 9, 2012 at 8:47 am

        He didn’t say give Horst a chance.

        He said give Horst a chance THERE in Bastardo’s spot.

        Did you really think Ed didn’t know that Charlie isn’t the only ones making personnel decisions?

        Speaking of Cloyd, whom Ed mentioned, I understand the interest, and hell if I understand the delay in exposing him to the bigs, and they might as well get him up sooner than later, but I was curious if at one time perhaps Kyle Kendrick was in the same position, as in we need more pitching (who doesn’t, and when is that ever the case), and people wanted him up, even though the team was not as yuck as it is now. Refreshing my memory, his minor league digits were pretty routine (being slightly to the nice side, no less). And here I was, thinking maybe Cloyd is good, but maybe he’s another Kendrick.

        Kendrick, when you come down to it just isn’t a good pitcher. But his once in a lifetime 94 pitch CG shutout V the Cards this year is one of the most amazing feats in Great Game history.

      • Ryne Duren

        August 9, 2012 at 9:32 am

        in reply to ken. charlie has a lot of input into his needs and i think amaro unfortunately gets him what he asks for example pence! charlie wanted a RH bat and rube went out and got one.
        rube doesn’t seem to be a GM who will dictate to the manger. the org. goes with what the manager asks for. when he asked for vet pitchers look what he got!

        as far as KK goes he never even was at AAA. and i don’t think his numbers where that great to begin with. he came up and won what 11 games with an era well over 4 but he won cause the phils had one of the best mashing lineups in the bigs. cloyd on the otherhand is dominating the AAA league he’s in with a team that’s not that good offensively. yet in a post game int. 2 days ago charlie was asked about cloyd as an option so KK could go back to the pen where he’s been decent. charlie stuttered and stammered about cloyd being ok and then he says he don’t throw very hard and he throws mostly cutters to be effective! that’s a bunch of bull. he throw harder than KK 90-92 and throws 4 good pitches for strikes he commands them all and uses all that’s why he’s been sucessful. so to me charlie is clueless. he should be replaced with sandberg who knows what players we have and their capabilities. charlie will stand by he failing veterans till we own the worst record in baseball. it amazes me that people don’t see how his methods are not working and his skill moves are duh! and the whole coaching staff should go too . no he doesn’t hit, pitch or whatever for them. but he can go to rube and say we need to replace some of our vets asap. if you want to compete.

      • George

        August 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm

        In case you didn’t notice, Ken, Big Ed addressed his initial comments ONLY to Charlie. Many fans do the same: they complain as if Manuel were the only one in charge of the roster. I’m sorry if I lumped Ed in with those uninformed types, but his post smacked of blaming Manuel solely, so I felt maybe he, too, needed a reminder. My comment about Bastardo still holds; he’d been pitching well of late, so why not give HIM a chance. Horst has been good, and deserves his shot, but Bastardo clearly has had more experience. Using one or the other could be argued either way; both of those pitchers need to show what they can/can’t do. Manuel just chose to give this chance to Bastardo. Had the results been different, everybody would be praising him for allowing Bastardo a chance to regain his confidence. If I’m not mistaken, Horst has been brought into a few tight games, anyway; maybe not tie games, but any late inning situation in a close game isn’t exactly a walk in the park.

  8. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    August 9, 2012 at 9:41 am

    @ Ken: Thanks!
    @ George: I am well aware Cholly isn’t the only one who makes decisions, and maybe I should have addressed my concern to Cholly and et al; however, if the front office is supposedly willin to do as much as it can to keep us a contender in 2013 then maybe, like most solid teams, they should take the manager’s concerns into account. When Cholly said he doesn’t have many prions last night, that was his frustration that no one above is really listening just placating. I addressed to Cholly to get the marbles out of his mouth and really tell Ruben to give him a listen, like the firebrand he was when he was hired. Also, I have been watching. In fact every game, despite workin full-time an getting my masters from UPenn, so I am not clueless but frustrated and not comprehending the unbridled chaos of this season. That being said, I feel from watching Horst and his intensity, that he should take Bastardo’s spot as the set up man and goto guy in a tie game if need be. Bastado’s psyche like his ability to get a third out is fragile. I honestly do not know what else this team can doto right itself; it is an unmitigated disaster. Your very insightful in your posts and I respect what you have to say greatly, as I do the majority of people who comment here. PN, how do we stop the wheel of fortune from crushing us as it makes it’s way around?!
    – Ed

  9. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    August 9, 2012 at 9:44 am

    Man, I hate typing on the iPhone. I always have errors. Lol

    • George

      August 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm

      Big Ed, I respect your opinions, too. I do have a tendency to overreact at time, and I am very picky and sarcastic by nature. I always worry later that I’ve worded things badly and offended someone, which is not my goal (unless I’m replying to a troll!!).

      As far as making mistakes on your iPhone, I wouldn’t worry about it. I type on a conventional keyboard, but that doesn’t keep me from typing “teh” instead of “the,” or using “there” when “their” is called for. If I had an iPhone, my comments would be worse gibberish than what they are now.

  10. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    August 9, 2012 at 9:54 am

    “Cloyd entered Wednesday 11-1 with a 1.93 ERA in 18 starts with Lehigh Valley. But the Phillies and other talent evaluators in baseball don’t appear to be very high on Cloyd.”

    I think if they give him at least a chance, that he might be another Worley, which would be nice. : )

    • Ryne Duren

      August 9, 2012 at 11:38 am

      personally big guy i’ve seen, cloyd pitch last season at reading which i reiterating on prior posts . and i came away thoroughly impressed with how he commands all his pitches and his poise and demeanor, which KK in my eyes doesnt have and never had it! maybe once in a while but mostly non existant. but cloyd for some reason or another maybe because he doesn’t (throw hard) they don’t project him as a major league pitcher. which i don’t understand because most of the pitchers throughout the history of base were PITCHERS not all threw the ball through the wall but pitched intelligently. ei greg maddux! just to name one. the ones that did throw hard that ended up in the hall became pitchers when they couldn’t blow the ball by people. warren spahn. then again a lot of pitchers who rely on heat mostly don’t last but a few yrs. once their velocity diminishes they lose their edge or they blow out their arms! i’ve seen it so many times over the years i can’t begin to count. alls said they should bring cloyd up! they didn’t even know what they had in worley. i think they were surprised. and i think they’ll be suprised with cloyd also. but they hung onto a guy who threw a straight flat fastball 98-99 mph like matheson until somebody probably from another org. told them no movement on his heater he’s never gonna cut it up here.

      • George

        August 9, 2012 at 12:32 pm

        You are right about Kendrick’s inconsistent poise. You’re also right about guys succeeding with little velocity, although Maddux did hit ninety until rather late in his career.

        The example I would use is Jamie Moyer. He never could throw more than about 86-87, and yet has won 260+ games.

        It’s possible that Cloyd’s secondary stuff is suspect, though. Major league hitters are more selective than minor leaguers.

        In any case, Cloyd should be given a chance, and I think he will be given Kendrick’s struggles. Something’s got to give. Manuel and Dubee know it, and Amaro should, and there really are no other options except a piece of crap off the waiver wire.

  11. SavannahPhilliesPhan

    August 9, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Really….it’s ridiculous that they are continually dealing with the same problems and doing nothing to correct it. Does it take a year to see that Bastardo has lost his confidence? Send him down to AAA to gain his confidence back! How many games is he going to lose for us before we move him? At this point I can’t see that using some of the minor league players could be any worse than using KK! He seems more comfortable in the bullpen pitching just a few innings. I knew this game was doomed as soon as I saw that KK was pitching! The bright spot in the game was that they came back to have that 5 run inning to tie up the game.

    • George

      August 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm

      It may be a little more complicated. If, in fact, Bastardo has lost his confidence, being demoted could be the final blow to his psyche, because if he’s timid in AAA, he’ll lose it even more.

      While it seems like a good plan to send him down where the batters aren’t so dangerous, that may be a risk I wouldn’t take. At least the staff can point out that he did get some dangerous major league hitters out and maybe work from there. He can’t do any real harm to the team in a lost season already lost, and farming him out, to me at least, could do damage to Bastardo.

      • SavannahPhilliesPhan

        August 9, 2012 at 4:43 pm

        George….I realize that these guys are under alot of pressure to perform. I’m sure there have been many wonderful talented athletes who crumbled under that pressure and could never perform at a major league level. How long is long enough to baby this guy? It’s been over a year or close to it that he has been having problems. Is he seeing a sports Psycologist to help him through this crisis or are the phillies just hoping he wil snap out of it? My feeling is that it is the latter. Some of the guys that have come up recently are doing great…..Horst, Diekman was for awhile, Swimmer, Rosenberg…..I think Bastardo needs a good coach to help him get his game together and a good Psycologist!

  12. Ken Bland

    August 9, 2012 at 11:32 am

    Here’s a Charlie Manuel story that I hadn’t heard before this week. Found it pretty funny, with the advantage of having seen Billy Martin’s routine, and being able to picture it.

    Charlie Manuel pinch-ran once for Hall of Famer Harmon Killebrew in 1969. Billy Martin, a man remembered as much for his volatile temper as his baseball acumen, was the manager. Sure enough, Manuel got picked off. “When I got [back to the dugout], he was standing there screaming, but there was nothing coming out of his voice, but you see the veins,” Manuel said. “Nothing was coming out. I went over and sat down. He came over – and I never will forget this – and he looked at me and said, ‘Don’t worry about it. It’s my fault for putting you in the game.'”

    • Ryne Duren

      August 9, 2012 at 11:40 am

      good one ken! that’s sort of what charlie must tell mini mart after the game when nobody is around.

      • George

        August 9, 2012 at 12:45 pm

        Actually, he’s probably telling Mini “It’s Amaro’s fault for keeping you on the #@$%& roster.”

  13. Brooks

    August 9, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    At the game last night and I have to say, it has been a long time since I lost my voice – my wife always knows if a good time was had when I come home raspy.
    From Jimmy’s first pitch hr it seemed like it would be the Phillies night. There were a couple of balls hit very deep only to be caught in AS fashion. When the score was 6-1, I told my grandson if the Braves score 1 more run OR, if the Phils go 3 up and 3 down for 2 innings in a row, we’re gone. Now let me say something about Ryan Howards HR. Although it only traveled 394ft, this was a moon shot. From the crack of the bat (heard out on Broad street) nobody mistook where that ball was going to land, a thing of beauty!
    And there you have it. The rest was AB and our new reliever destroying any kind of hopes we might fester.

  14. betasigmadeltashag

    August 9, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    The thing about bull pens is they are usually very inconsistant within a year and more so from year to year. We have been spoiled over the last five years to have caught lightning in a bottle a couple of time with bull pen arms. Romearo, Durbin, Eyres, and a few others that had good years here but were not expected to be top notch pen guys when they came here. So before we right Bastardo off or send him down, I watch him and still see some real good stuff, so I think though he may not be an eigth inning guy I thought he could be at the begining of the year he will be a good bull pen guy in the future. It is the ups and downs of the game of baseball. If you name is Rivera, you have poor streaches or poor years. Even look at Lidge before his perfect season did any one see that turn around. Look at Broxton after he was demoted in LA and traded or let go I hear he is having a pretty good season as a non closer. A lot of times your bull pen comes down to luck

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