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Phillies Rained Out

The rain came, and it didn’t stop.

The Phillies were supposed to take on the Colorado Rockies at Citizens Bank Park tonight. But they’ll have to wait, as a series of storm fronts moved through the region, beginning around 5 pm and not showing any sign of letting up at 10 pm, when the game was officially called.

The teams will make up the games tomorrow when they play a doubleheader. The first game is scheduled for 1:05 pm, while the second game will begin at 6:35 pm. Cole Hamels is expected to start the first game, while Tyler Cloyd will start the second.

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  1. Brooks

    September 8, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    I have tickets to see Cole but it looks like I will be seeing Cloyd instead at 6:35 as Cole will pitch the first game. NP
    Will be fun regardless and, my first time seeing Cloyd pitch.

  2. Andrew from Waldorf

    September 8, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Cardinals lost again.

    Leads down to 6.5

    Win 2 tomorrow and you make up ground on everyone. Regardless of what they do.


  3. Ken Bland

    September 9, 2012 at 10:05 am

    This might well wind up as maybe even less than zero adieu about nothing, but I noticed several weeks back that Tom McCarthy had inked up with I think Westwood One to broadcast NFL games on radio. Usually Sunday early games. Being as the NFL kicks off its season today, I wonder if McCarthy will be in the Harry Kalas broadcast booth a la Bank (wow…a multi lingual post!), or off describing penalties and incomplete passes. Been years since I even gave any attention to where MLB casters were that doubled as NFL voices on the few days of conflict per year, and perhaps each guy’s case was individually determined, but is it possible we get some Franzke-Wheeler video today? Say what you want about T Mac as a baseball announcer, but he certainly strikes as a down to earth humble guy, so it wasn’t surprising that he avoided the usual twitter trap of self promotion by twitting an NFL destination for this Sunday, which is more research than the subject warrants, and probably means he’ll be calling foul balls and popups, although the popup reference gets no mention of names to protect their one way or another polarized image. One problem that is overwhelmingly unlikely to face that has developed the last 3 years now is Phils post season radio where the Franzke-LA team has been broken up to promote the Fabulous Phillies TV voices with precious air time. Gee, that’s too bad.


    You would think that with all the availability of statistics in the baseball industry these days, the writers at Phillies Nation that share in pre game article assignments would be accountable for their records of Phillie wins and losses for the games they have previewed. I mean, we can’t blame the players and Charlie for the abundance of losses, now, can we? But for all we know, Amanda Orr, par example might be 19-0, or 0-19 on her game previews. Well, the Phillies might be when she previews, but you get the point..

    But the thought of that takes me back to oh, around 3 months ago now when the Phils got
    stuck doubling up V Tampa on a Sunday after the same tv weathertype was responsible for a Saturday rainout. And the individual who previewed the Sunday double dip called it sweepable. So that individual is at least 0-2. Plus, there’s the all important issue of which Phillies Nation writer would get credit on their ledger card for win(s) today. Will there be a replacement article for last night’s net nothing? Could Phillies Nation be so deep in writing depth that one writer pens a 1st game preview, and a 2nd scribe verbalizes a Game 2 preview, maybe allowing for a co-ed sweep?


    I wish those that decided to enter the “Why I Love the Phillies” contest good luck. I never mustered up enough motivation to enter. I graduated from The University of If You’re Gonna Do Something, Do it Right, and easily rationalized it was a tremendous chance to do some great thought collecting, and soul searching, but had too much potential to be volumous in effort, time and content. That equated to the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply. So I grabbed me a pen and a paper, and I made up my own little sign and said “Welcome to the First and Last Very Unofficial Sunday-Saturday time frame Post of the Week.” The nominee was classically and decisively so singular that it annulled any and all competition.

    One individual wrote a simple enough comment when Polly was DL’d again for the upteenth time with a casual “didn’t we all see this coming.”

    But the RESPONSE was priceless. Words to the effect of, with actual numbers…FWIW, Polly was some number on the list of most games played for the years 2008-2010, or some period of time.

    Who the bleep gives a flying bleep? Anything to work a stat in there, raising the RHETORICAL (and thus zero need for a reply) question of what the frig does that have to do with the price of fortune cookies in downtown Peking? It was even more classic than the 2 or so days prior reply to a scouting report on one Jonathan Papelbon that speculated on the long term ability of the tender shouldered two pitch pitcher’s ability to be effective when his fastball slowed as he aged and he might be in even more trouble when pitching in a home run park. That gave birth to “information” that Citizen’s Bank Park is not a home run park.
    Ah, the joy of statistical overdose. Now Papelbon does potentially pitch 81 games at the oft described hitter’s haven of CBP, but they tell me a schedule is for 162, let alone some warm summer nights, when the ball is carrying, the Bank is conducive to homer hitting. So as anyone from Perry Mason to Jack McCoy would say, “Relevance, Your Honor.” The relavance is it’s still another in the never ending series of chances to present statistics. Ah whoop-dee-do.

    • schmenkman

      September 9, 2012 at 11:02 am

      Lefty said that very well, but I’ll add two bits of explanation:

      1) Polanco: the complaint on Polanco even before this year has been that he’s always hurt. The fact that only 8 third basemen played more in 2010-11 is (IMO) important in showing that you would have had to somehow get one of those other 8 third basemen in order to get one who stayed on the field more.

      2) CBP is not a great home run park (and certainly not hitter-friendly in terms of overall scoring), and any comment that perpetuates that misconception needs to be corrected. More here:

      • Ken Bland

        September 9, 2012 at 12:03 pm

        1) I get the idea of presenting a stat, and leaving someone the right to make up their mind of the application. But the shortness of that was classically hilarious. In terms of health, who cares about Polanco’s relativity to Cal Ripken a year or two back. there isn’t a right thinking person, no matter how crtical, or frustrated by Polly’s decline that doesn’t respect his past. And there is less than the chance Lefty quoted on the contest that Polly is the core 3rd baseman for 2013, so his playing hurt has zero to do with the fact that he’s at the shin bone’s connected to the hip bone, the hip bones connected to the rib cage, ad infanitum stage of his career.

        2) I don’t care if CPB resembles the wiffle ball parks I remember dominating through selective memory as a kid or not. The facts are that Papelbon is not gonna throw harder as he gets older, is highly reliant on heat, is a fly ball pitcher, and will potentiallty throw half his innings in a park where the ball carries well in heat with dimensions conducive to “outtahere” whether or not the overall statistics say the Bank is the homerun park it’s reputed to be. The bottom line is that wherever he pitches, he figures to become a higher homerun risk by contract end, and practically zero with whether it’s a homer haven. Like I’ve never referenced the Bank as a homer haven on the few occasions where I’ve mentioned the homer total that Cliff has this year is higher, nor as it been a thorn in my side with Doc, who 2 years ago gave up about 17 homers, pretty high relative to his earlier career. And as I said, he may prove me wrong. But whether his particular style and situation nearly inarguably have anything to do with the Bank as a whole is practically night and day to whether the Bank is a homerun park.

        What a waste of time.

    • Ryne Duren

      September 9, 2012 at 11:59 am

      loved your comment ken! i just might put you on my christmas list! lol

  4. Lefty

    September 9, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Wow, that might have been the lengthiest call-out I’ve ever read.

    Although I admit that I have had to do it a few times over the years, I’m not a fan of public call-outs, because they are unnecessary for several obvious reasons, but the three most important to me are;
    1) It has nothing to do with the Phillies or this posting.
    2) No one cares what you think about another commenter.
    3) PN gives you the ability to send private messages to other commenters, and you can address these types of issues there- if that person logs on, and I believe both of can and do from time to time.

    You can also address any issues privately to Brian.

    Now, I’ll appeal to your sense of good humor and just state that since you didn’t enter the contest, your chances of winning are 0%.

    • Ryne Duren

      September 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm

      lefty i didn’t enter the contest #1 because i’m not lucky enough to win stuff. i once lost the nj pick 6. i played the same numbers every week. and they came out in pennsy. i stopped playing the lottery after that! then about two yrs later the same numbers came out in jersey. god has a sense of humor i’ll tell ya that! but hey life goes on. i’m rich! i have a loving family and PN what else could a man ask for?
      if i were to enter it would have been something like this… i love the phillies for the same reason that a dog licks his b*lls. cause he can! i enjoy my phils and i’m sure the dog enjoys what he does!lol

      • Ryne Duren

        September 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm

        oh and by the way. if anybody calls me out publicly it’s fine with me! i’m a man i can take it! besides, sometimes i probably deserve it anyway. i promise i won’t cry that long.
        i think it was chuck a who called me out about two weeks ago about using the reference to rollins as j-bag. although i still feel that way, i will refrain from calling him that. not out of respect for rollins but respect for chuck. it seemed to bother him and when i post my object is not to offend my PN brothers. so if i get out of hand let me know fellas.

  5. Dave P

    September 9, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Lol ken. Let me get right on reading that.


    • Ken Bland

      September 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm

      You should have read it. Would have taken you straight to Tuesday, and you wouldn’t have had to face Monday morning. What a joyous time of the week that is for most people.

  6. Ryne Duren

    September 9, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    i think the main reason for the banks lower ranking is the fact that our pitching was so good the the 5 yrs! plus the fact that utley and howards total hr production also contributed to it!
    personally i prefer OUR pitching stopping the homers and OUR hitters mashing them! just saying.

    • schmenkman

      September 9, 2012 at 12:25 pm

      Those ratings are done by how stats by both teams in eac team’s home games compare to stats by both teams in the away games in other parks. The pitching HAS been better, but it’s been better both at home and on the road. The Phils are hitting fewer HRs, but they’re hitting fewer both at home and on the road.

      Besides, CBP has ranked as neutral since 2008, when the pitching was decent but not great, and they still hit a lot of HRs.

      • Ryne Duren

        September 9, 2012 at 6:03 pm

        on the lighter side schmenkman (statman) off the subject. since my mood is good because of wins by both the birds and the phils. a question for you. why is it when the temp. outside is say 92 the weatherman always says with the heat index it feels like 101! why don’t they ever tell us what the chill factor is when it’s 92 ? i’d feel a lot better knowing that with the chill factor it felt like, say85! or in the winter they say it’s 32 but the chill factor mades it feel like 20. again, why don’t they tell us what the heat index is ?if it’s 32 then it feel like 45 with the heat index.
        this is just some of the idiotic things that go on in my old feeble brain when both the birds and phils win in the same day! and hopfully another win tonite for the phils! whatta ya think schmenk.

      • schmenkman

        September 9, 2012 at 8:23 pm

        I’ve wondered the same thing myself, and someone more meteorogically inclined would have to chime in.

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