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Rollins Reaches 2,000 Hits, Phillies Fall to Reds

Congrats to Jimmy Rollins on his 2,000th hit.

With a double in the fifth inning off Reds starter Mat Latos, Jimmy Rollins became the fourth Phillies hitter to collect 2,000 hits in their career.  The other three are Mike Schmidt, Richie Ashburn, and Ed Delahanty.  All three of which are in the baseball Hall of Fame.

Rollins would need just 235 more hits to take over first place from Schmidt.  The short stop already has 134 hits this season but has only collected more than 200 hits one time in his career.  For the current Phillies, Rollins joins Juan Pierre (2,123) and Placido Polanco (2,044) as current roster players with at least 2,00o hits.  And for those who care, the next closest is Chase Utley with 1,248.

So amongst the excitement from Rollins, the rest of the Phillies couldn’t get much working against Latos.  The Reds right went seven innings, allowed just the one run and struck out six.  The Cincinnati bullpen pitched two scoreless innings to secure the 2-1 victory.

The fourth inning was a bit fuzzy, a little confusing and the NFL replacement refs out there had no idea what was going on.  The Phillies had bases loaded after a Chase Utley double, a Ryan Howard HBP, and John Mayberry Jr. walk.  Domonic Brown got the lone RBI with a bases loaded walk that scored Utley.

After this, the umps really made a push for instant replay on traps in the outfield.  In your box score it will go down as a line out/double play.  An 8-4 if you will.  The replay could show otherwise, which left a lot of people scratching their heads after it was all said and done.  Either way, the Phillies manage only the one run and strand a couple runners.

Kyle Kendrick, again, proved that he might actually have a spot in this rotation next year.  It’s amazing the righty has 18 decisions this season taking the loss tonight (8-10).  Kendrick allowed a two run homer to Jay Bruce in the sixth.  For those playing fantasy, it was Bruce’s 31st home run of the season.

Justin De Fratus pitched a third of inning tonight in relief for the Phillies.  After he walked the bases loaded, he got Scott Rolen to fly out to right to end the inning.

With this loss, the Phillies are still six games under .500 and 8.5 games back in the Wild Card.  Nothing is done until it’s done and the Phillies have been playing better of late.  Don’t strike me down, just don’t give up quite yet.

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  1. Andrew from Waldorf

    September 5, 2012 at 1:40 am

    0% chance for the baseball hall of fame.

    I suppose the fans and organization will vote him into the Phillies wall of fame at some point though.

    He is a quality person off the field.

    Just wish some things on the field had been done better.
    But it isnt all his fault.
    The Phils have spoiled/ruined some of thier players.
    With over pampering and lack of discipline.

  2. schmenkman

    September 5, 2012 at 6:53 am

    Typical vague aspersions, with zero support or basis in reality.

    Yes, I “suppose” that the best shortstop (by far) in Phillies history will be added to the wall of fame.

    I “suppose” they’ll be able to squeeze in the team’s all-time leader in hits and doubles, and the #2 in extra base hits and total bases, and one of the key players of the greatest period in Phillies history.

    I “suppose” so.

  3. Chuck A.

    September 5, 2012 at 8:10 am

    Zero chance for the HOF???

    Not so fast there, friend. Let’s assume Jimmy has three more years on his current contract (2 guaranteed plus the easy vesting option). Let’s also assume that if he stays healthy he can collect about 150 hits per season and also let’s say he finishes this year with another 20-25 hits That would take him to somewhere around 2,475 hits at the end of age 36. There is no reason to think that he could play another 2 years maybe (whether it’s here or somewhere else) and get enough hits to to take him to around 2,700. That total puts him in VERY good company (even close to 2,500 and it’s impressive):

    Of course, there’s no guarantee here and there are lots of other stats to consider as well when electing someone to the HOF. But to just make the blanket statement, “0% chance for the baseball hall of fame” is a little premature, wouldn’t you say???

    • Chuck A.

      September 5, 2012 at 8:13 am

      ^^^ “that he COULDN’T play another 2 years”

    • Ken Bland

      September 5, 2012 at 11:26 am

      Kind of a side issue, but you get the feeling that 500 homers is about to clearly drop as a psychological Hall automatic, and I wonder if 3000 hitsmight follow suit to a lesser extent. Hard to imagine Craig Biggio being an overwhelming HOF guy (no disrespect to a fine career, but he’s not a name that you automatically think of as a Hall guy, although the Hall isn’t predicated on images and reps.

      I’d call Jummy an outside possibility. Been so long since he’s had major impact that I think he needs to do more than just accumulate over the next 3 seasons, which I don’t see likely. One thing he’s done has been to “prove” he could stay healthy, which Ruben was quoted as saying was important before he extended him. While he’s done that this year, the possibilities of his continuing that to me are highly questionable.

      As always, as opposed to usual, schmenkman has zero clue what he’s talking about. Classifying Jimmy as the best shortstop in Phils history is fine. I never saw Granny Hamner, and frankly, haven’t looked at his numbers in ages, and I don’t think that Jimmy’s legacy places him above Bowa anything close to what I’d call by far. But when the words by far are included in his assessment, it again shows the guy is completely lost without links and/or numbers. Bowa, a complete surprise to show any degree of success as a big league hitter, with 2000 plus hits his damned self was also a tremendous defender, and a heads up, max effort player. But, when a guy responds to a post about pregnancy information by describing pregnancy information as a subject that confuses him, objective thinking is a high hope.

      Wonder if there’s disagreement among peeps who read write here about Scott Rolen as an HOF guy. looks pretty good to me. And the possibility of a P on his cap is intruiging.

      • schmenkman

        September 5, 2012 at 11:56 am

        I won’t touch the ‘pregnancy info” comment as that speaks volumes by itself.

        So I am clueless, but you only disagree with the “(by far)”. Got it.

        So let’s address that. They were both very good fielders and I don’t see much difference between them. So let’s focus on their offense:

        Games:.. Bowa 1739, Rollins 1769
        Runs: …..Bowa 816, Rollins 1160
        Hits: …… Bowa 1798, Rollins 2000
        Doubles: Bowa 206, Rollins 420
        Triples: ..Bowa 81, Rollins 105
        Homers: Bowa 13, Rollins 187
        RBI: ……. Bowa 421, Rollins 780
        SB:……… Bowa 288, Rollins 398
        Walks: …Bowa 359, Rollins 615
        Ks: ……… Bowa 455, Rollins 938
        BA ………. Bowa .264, Rollins .270
        OBP ……. Bowa .301, Rollins .328
        SLG ……..Bowa .324, Rollins .431
        OPS …… Bowa .624, Rollins .759
        OPS+ …. Bowa 72 , Rollins 97
        Total Bs. Bowa 2205, Rollins 3191

        Ken, the floor is yours.

      • schmenkman

        September 5, 2012 at 12:09 pm

        That’s a lot of numbers, and it sounds like that’s not a comfort zone for you, so let me boil it down, and Wins Above Replacement is a handy way to do that:

        Bowa 22.3
        Rollins 47.6

  4. George

    September 5, 2012 at 8:40 am

    I won’t really care about Rollins’ HOF qualifications until he actually retires and his lifetime stats can be truly assessed.

    I’m more concerned with the here and now. It’s time something was done about umpires. Double plays on balls that are trapped are pretty crappy. Not only do they cost a team a run, they cost a team the potential to score even more.

    It hasn’t been just the Phils this season, but every team has been influenced by bad calls, and sometimes it’s not just the umps’ judgement, which would be forgivable, but a seeming lack of knowledge of the actual rules, which isn’t.

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    • schmenkman

      September 5, 2012 at 9:07 am

      I continue to be confused by these. What do these posters hope to gain? There is no information about a product or service, and no link to follow. Any ideas?

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        September 5, 2012 at 1:07 pm

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        And O/T – just in case you were wondering why I spelled “lead” that way, it’s an old-timer thing.

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  6. Dave P

    September 5, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    I can’t find this and I’m hoping schmenk can come through – I read somewhere that if Jimmy reaches 200 HRs, he’ll only be the 7th player in major league history to have some sort of combination of hits, homers, stolen bases, etc etc…

    • schmenkman

      September 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm

      Maybe someone else also pointed that out, but I mentioned it at the link below…

      Reaching 400 steals and 2,000 hits will make him just he 24th player in history with 400 doubles, 400 steals, and 2,000 hits. There are only 7 in history with that combination and also 200 HRs (Rollins is at 187).

  7. Andrew from Waldorf

    September 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Bowa is not in the hall of fame.

    Jimmy may catch Juan Pierre in hits.
    Is Pierre a hall of famer?

    Howard and Utley are less than a 0% for the hall of fame.

    But it if it makes you guys feel better Ill put Jimmy at 1%

    You know of all the things that have been constant since 2006.
    Charlie Manuel has the best chance to be in the hall of fame.

    Cole too but has to pitch another 15 years. So less likely.

  8. Andrew from Waldorf

    September 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    The stat compiling part of the HOF is pretty well over.

    I suppose that 100 years from now some veteran committee may look upon stats and put someone in. But we will all be long gone by then.

    What kills me is that some you are such homers that you would even want a guy who has to meet with the manager on a weekly basis about running to first base in the hall of fame?

    In game 5 of the playoffs last year there was a play he didnt run to first base.

    I still say they could have accomplished alot by just simply not resigning him last offeason.
    Youd still have Shane if they hadnt.
    Pence too although I am glad he is gone.

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