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2012 Gameday

Gameday: Phillies (81-80) vs Nationals (97-64)

Philadelphia Phillies (81-80) at Washington Nationals (97-64)

Cliff Lee vs Edwin Jackson

Time: 1:05 PM, Nationals Park
Weather: Overcast, 78
Media: Twitter and Facebook

And then there was one. It’s the final game of the regular season, and I’d like to take this space to thank everyone for once again making Phillies Nation the best website for baseball on the planet. Every day thousands and thousands of you come out to cheer, laugh, cry, and chat about your Phillies. We appreciate every one of you.

Cliff Lee will have the honors of trying to give the Phillies their 11th consecutive winning season. Think about that. This is the worst season the Phillies will have had since 2002, but it still could be a winning year.

All around baseball, it’s the final night of the regular season – maybe. So it should be a lot of fun. Remember last year? It looks like we’re headed down that road again. The Rangers and A’s are fighting for the AL West. Miguel Cabrera might win the Triple Crown tonight. The AL East is up for grabs. So much happening.

But don’t forget to stick with the Phillies for one last day. Spring Training is always just around the corner.

Victory Lager

Your gameday beer: Stoudt’s Oktoberfest

Why not finish off the regular season with another Oktoberfest beer. Had this one by Stoudts over the weekend and it’s smooth and easy to drink. It doesn’t overpower you like some of the other spicier October brews. It’s got a medium amber color and is pleasing to the palette. Enjoy it with some sausage and peppers and settle in for Game 162. – Pat Gallen


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  1. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    Big day today. Huge day. Gigantic day. Mini’s cracking 2 homers* to end is Phillie career leaving all his crtics speechless. Book it.

    * homers is a relative term to a player’s skill set. Pop ups to short for Mini count as dingers.
    My shortstop, my rules

  2. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Mini could de4finitely go deep here. Real deep.

  3. chuck schreiber

    October 3, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Why is Mini batting 8th when Lee is in lineup. It possibly cost us 2 runs just now. COME’ ON Charlie.

    • Ken Bland

      October 3, 2012 at 1:31 pm

      Mini is 1-20 when he leads off an inning. With overdueness like that, I believe Charlie is rightfully priveleged to hit Mini wherever he wants, and if he chooses to try to sneak him thru twice in an inning, then batting out of order should be praised, not scorned.

  4. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 1:29 pm

    This is what baseball is all about. Teammates picking each other up. Mini pounds a vicious grounder to short, and I mean pounded, and leaves 2 on. But we are so thankful for the sabermetropologists who with = effectiveness have recreated the game, and oh thank you so much taught us that rbi are a team thang. Therefore, no need to blame the Mini Man. After all, it was the whole team’s fault that the rbi wasn’t registered.

    Thank you, team. We can still love Mini.

  5. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Well, so far, so gooid. I figured it the other day, and came up with Cliff needing 8 shutout innings to hit 3 even in the ERA column, 9 would drop him to 2.98. I was never too excited by that finishing with a winning record as a goal, figured a lost season is what it is, but now that’s it’s here, it’d be cool, but Cliff under 3 has had me psyched as a possibility the last couple weeks. It’s cool that he’s even in position to do it.

  6. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Nice AB for rough. Didn’t try to pull the ball as EJ worked him low and away, and still lifted it to the outfield for the rib. Good work off the righty.

  7. Ken Bland

    October 3, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    “According to Nielsen, Phillies average audience was down 39.1 percent this year, with an average audience size of 168,000, although that still ranked fourth in the majors behind the Yankees, Mets and Tigers”

    That is some serious droppage..

  8. Lefty

    October 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    You’ve done a lot of good things this year Dominic, but if you want to be a major leaguer, you have to run them ALL OUT. It’s only 90 feet 4 times a game, so for what you are paid, it’s not too much to ask.

  9. lou possehl

    October 3, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    It’s been a long and frustrating season, notwithstanding the fact that even in the “perfect storm” that was/is 2012 we pulled up to .500, had a pretty good second half with some glimmers of playoff promise for ’13, and close out with some pleasant surprises (Frandsen, Ruf, Aumont, Horst among others).

    Having put a bit of lipstick on the pig that was, I shall go on to say that nothing epitomizes the frustrations of 2012 more than seeing Michael Martinez as our starting SS for game 162. At least, he should have been placed 9th in the order, after Lee. This might have presented untold problems for the Nats, who might have been inclined to intentionally walk Lee, so as to face Martinez. Then, with all kinds of pressure now facing the Nats pitcher, he might have grooved one and Martinez may have belted that offering into shallow left.

    The only explanation I can think of, regarding the season-long inexplicable Martinez phenomenon, is that there must be a dead body in the trunk of Charlie Manuel’s car, and Martinez knows it and how it got there.

  10. Andrew from Waldorf

    October 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    I actualy have this game on in the background.

    81-81 with the second highest pay roll in a sport without a salary cap is not acceptable.

    Sorry I dont have that warm and fuzzy feeling for next year.
    I dont see Ruben Minaya Jr. and Charlie leading this group back.
    They will all be a year older.

    They only got decent this year when Ruben was forced to trade some of his precious line up. Unfortunately the right guys werent even moved.

    I wonder where they will trade Ruf?
    We dont need players like that or Frandsen or Glavis.

    Ruben had the scouts at Roger Clemens last independant league game though.

    Anyway enjoy the off season folks!

    Ill be back opening day. All full of hope.
    But with the reality of what Ruben has created and his philosophy as a stone cold fact in the back of my mind.

    • lou possehl

      October 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm

      2013 can be a “light at the end of the tunnel” year for several reasons:

      – if Utley can play most (if not all) of the season
      – if Howard is healthy from Game 1
      – if Worley is healthy, and Halladay reverts to “normal” for him
      – if it’s Charlie’s last year – to be replaced by Sandberg
      – if in the off-season the Phillies use their payroll space to make a big-time signing

      None of these are pie-in-the-sky hopes; the first three merely reflect the run of bad luck that was 2012. An example of pie-in-the-sky would be Charlie platooning Ryan Howard … but that, of course, is too much to hope for and, besides, who would back Howard up after we trade Darin Ruff for PTBN?

  11. Andrew from Waldorf

    October 3, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Seriously why Martinez?

    The Phillies got 99 problems and the util infielder aint one.

    Just like Bruntlett never was or Blanton or KK or Moyer.

    Your problem isnt the back of the bench its the top of your line up ( not jimmy specificly).

    OK just happened to see that and responded.

    Brooks have a shot for me.
    Ken thanks for acknowledging my genius.
    Lefty Ill talk to you soon.


    October 3, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    I think we will see an end to Dominic Brown in a Phillies’ uniform. I am watching the game on MLB.COM and Brown hit a tapper to the pitcher in the middle innings. He obviously DID NOT hustle to first base. In fact, he loafed. Well, the pitcher made a high throw to first base, pulling the firstbaseman off the bag. Brown was out by a step. Had he hustled just a little bit, he would have been safe. The Nationals ‘announcers commented on this and the camera focused in on Charlie Manuel’s expression, which was not positive.

    I predict that Dom Brown will be trade bait in the offseason. And we will not get much for him. I think that “loafing” play cost this kid a whole lot of future. It’s a shame,but I cannot blame the Phils for seeking a better player who hustles.

    • PhillyFanSam

      October 3, 2012 at 3:57 pm

      I thought Dom Brown was beginning to improve on his fielding; but, after seeing last night’s game I’m back to wondering what his problem is. He jumped @ the fence for a home run ball that was about 5 feet behind the direction he was jumping toward. Then did the same thing on a foul ball down the line which should have been caught. He over ran the ball by 5 feet and missed it! What’s up with that?


    October 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    Lefty— You are 100% correct. I think Dominic is done in Philly. That loaf to first base today was a death march for Dominic. Most unfortunate.

    • schmenkman

      October 3, 2012 at 3:51 pm

      It seems like you’re drawing a lot of conclusions from a meaningless game.


    October 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    It may seem so, but Brown has been chastised for lack of hustle before and at the time of his loafing to first bast, the score was tied. I may be drawing conclusions, but in this case, I believe it adds to that pile of facts on the negative side of a decision. And Brown is not hitting .250 and has not been very impactful during this “test.” I hope Brown turns it around, and the Phils continue to give him chances. Loafing is not a good way to end an opportunity to show off his heart and his desire to win.

    • Brooks

      October 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm

      A believer

    • schmenkman

      October 3, 2012 at 4:27 pm

      I was hoping for more from him this year, but he did hit better than Mayberry, Howard, or Wigginton (to name three admittedly low bars), is very cheap, and has a high ceiling.

      If they can get something valuable in a trade, great. Otherwise I see no reason to give up on him. And I don’t think they can get enough in a trade to compensate for his combination of decent hitting/cheap/high ceiling.

      • George

        October 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm

        Brown also has a strong throwing arm.

        Part of his lack of hustle may be due to the fact that he’s had leg issues most of the season, including for a time after he was called up.

        He’s probably worth giving more chances to, because teams generally don’t pay much for “potential.”

  15. Andrew from Waldorf

    October 3, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Utley has some gas in the tank. Which is a nice suprise.
    But I do feel hed be better served at 3b or LF.
    I guess they have decided that is not happening.

    D Brown is a part of the solution not part of the problem.

    Worley I think you saw his best in 2011. But he could be usable as a 4th or 5th starter for some time.

    Halladay is by far my biggest concern.
    In 2011 he is the best player in baseball.
    in 2012 he is not top 50.

    Older players tend to not get better. Unless they find the golden nectar liek Clemens and Bonds did. Most likely the age and wear on the arms (all of them) is going to show up more next year not less.

    Oh yea and this Nats team is good. they wont win it all this year but they may next year. and are a lock fo rthe division in 2013.

    But this Bob Carpenter announcer is the worst ever.

    • Devin

      October 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm

      Left Field and 3B both wouldn’t be any easier on Chase’s knees. 3rd might actually be considerably worse. The rest I agree with.

  16. DCmikey

    October 3, 2012 at 4:29 pm


    I really enjoyed reading the postings.

    You guys are all awesome…Lefty, The Dipsy, Schek the stat man, Pat G, Beth w all those letters, the PN WRITERS, Ken Bland, etc etc etc- you are all awesome and passionate fans.

    • Ken Bland

      October 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm

      You mentioned Lefty ahead of me, implying you think he’s more awesome than me.

      I knew if I read enough stuff on this site, I’d find something that was true. I mean aside from any of AFW’s interpretations.

  17. Chuck A.

    October 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Sounds like a lot of people are saying their goodbyes on here. Guess it’s just be us few diehards during the off-season….

    • George

      October 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm

      I don’t think it’s “goodbye” so much as it’s “see you after the series.” There will be some really heated debates then about what the Phils should do. There really isn’t much that can be said right now or anytime soon until trade rumors and free agents begin to pop up. That is, unless one wants to talk politics, which would be even more of a death knell for a sports site than a .500 season.

      • Ken Bland

        October 3, 2012 at 5:04 pm

        hey George, lemme ask you a question.

        How bad would it be if arc expressed his opinions on the American League?

        That’d be pretty ruf, huh?

  18. DCmikey

    October 3, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    @Ken Bland, hahaha. Lefty is more local

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