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PN Interview: 2012 Draft Pick Cooper Talks Pro Transition

From the “Lost Tapes” files, I bring you a never-before-released interview with 2012 Phillies draft pick Zach Cooper.  The righty hurler was in the midst of an excellent campaign during his first season in the pro ranks, after the Phils selected him in the 15th round out of Central Michigan University, when I spoke with him in August.

Cooper, who turned 23-years-old this off-season, is aggressive on the mound, as he attacks the strike zone and goes after opposing batters.

As a senior last year with the Chippewas, the 5-foot-10-inch 185-pound Cooper went 7-5 with a 2.82 ERA and was honored with an all-conference nod.

After debuting as a pro, combined at two levels, with the short-season Williamsport Crosscutters and the Class A Lakewood BlueClaws, Cooper posted a 2-3 record with six saves and a 1.30 ERA while holding batters to a .183 batting average in 23 appearances.

Read ahead to check out my full interview with Zach, as he talks about transitioning from college ball to the minors, being selected by the Phillies and plenty more.

– Zach you’re off to a hot start to your pro career.  I just wanted to get some thoughts from you on your early success here.

You know, it’s been something that I kind of just turned in from college.  Just tried to get into a groove and I’ve been able to.  And I’ve had some outstanding plays behind me and stuff like that and great games called by the catcher, so it’s kind of been me, but a team thing too.

– I know you pitched at Central Michigan and I wanted to see how you think your collegiate career helped you transition into the minor leagues.

I was drafted last year by the Marlins and I decided to come back (to school) and I just think that this last year in college was huge for me and to be able to come in and do what I’m doing now is just, you know- I’ve learned a lot in the past year with my pitching coach, Jeff Opalewski, and I think that was a big thing with the success that I’m having right now.

– You mentioned being drafted by the Marlins the previous season…how difficult was that, because I know a lot of guys feel they have more leverage to negotiate as a junior…how difficult was it to make the decision to return to school?

The decision, being drafted that late, the offer wasn’t really what I was looking for.  I thought I was worth a little bit more than (what they offered).  All in all, I wasn’t that sure, too, if- I got to play in the Cape last summer and I got to experience some good competition out there.  And I wasn’t sure if I was exactly ready to go, so I kind of sat down with my coaches and my parents and I decided, “Hey, you know…I might as well be as ready as I can be for pro ball”, so I decided to go back to Central and finish my degree and get all that stuff going and it turned out to be the best decision.

– Absolutely.  And now you’re here.  Now, glancing at your college stats, it’s clear you were mostly a starter there.  Now, in a relief role here, is there a preference for you at all, either pitching in the rotation or out of the bullpen?

It’s a little different, because as a starter, you have a routine.  You know when you’re going to throw.  But, I kind of like the spontaneity and the craziness of being a reliever, not knowing when you’re going to throw.  It kind of creates the adrenaline and I like that a lot, so it’s been a lot of fun.

– We eluded to you being drafted this year.  A lot of guys talk about tracking the draft, but at the same time, there are players who are in the midst of regional and postseason tournaments when the draft is going on.  Were you able to track the draft, how did you learn you were picked by the Phillies and how did you celebrate?

I kind of understood the process better (this year) after being drafted last year.  I was just kind of hanging out at home with my family.  We got knocked out of the conference tournament early, so I was able to be home for a little bit and just kind of relax and just enjoy it.  I was actually watching the draft a little bit on the computer and then the 15th round was the last round of the second day and I wasn’t sure what was gonna go on, and having to watch all the way through and then the Phillies picked me.  From there, it was awesome.  A dream come true.

– Were the Phillies among the teams on your radar or was it a surprise when they selected you?

I definitely knew they were interested, but I wasn’t sure how interested they were.  There were some other teams that I thought were a little more interested than the Phillies, but it was awesome.  It was cool being drafted by them and, so far, it’s been a great thing.  All the coaches, all the facilities…it’s been a great organization to be a part of, so far.

– Sounds good.  I took a look at some bio information on you and I noticed that your college major was sports studies.  What does that entail and what can you tell me about that?

Coming into college, I wasn’t exactly sure what I wanted to go into, but I knew I wanted to be involved in sports somehow.  I have a major in sports management and a double minor in business administration, and I just kind of thought that would broaden the horizons on me being able to do any kind of thing in sports, whether it was working with kids, putting on tournaments, or working in the front office, but I knew I wanted to be involved in sports, so I knew that having all those degrees would make it so I could do basically anything, if baseball doesn’t work out.

– That sounds great.  Speaking of being armed with multiple tools, what’s your pitch repertoire like and what do you consider your out pitch?

Pitch repertoire…fastball, slider, change up.  And I would consider my out pitch to be my slider.

– And what’s your velocity like on the fastball and what is the drop off to the off-speed stuff?

The fastball ranges from 90 to 95, the slider is anywhere from 82 to 86 and the change up is about 80, 83.

– And just a couple more things…Coming up as a youngster, who were some of the players you looked up to as a fan, before turning pro?

Growing up, it was kind of interesting, because I wasn’t sure if I was going to be a pitcher, or what, so I just grew up, looking at Derek Jeter, you know, Ken Griffey, all those kind of guys.  Those were some of the guys that I emulated during my younger days, hitting.  So, those were some of the guys that I liked.

– You’ve pitched in Williamsport and some cities on the road too, but what are your impressions of Lakewood thus far…the facilities, the fans, the community here?

The facility, the stadium, I haven’t played anywhere better.  Being on the road here, I wasn’t sure what to expect, coming into pro ball, but here you get 7,000 or 8,000 people and that’s the most people I’ve ever played in front of.  The community support is awesome.  It’s a great place.  And the fans, there’s no better fans than Lakewood fans, so it’s been awesome to be here.



  1. Bart Shart

    February 9, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Wish Zach Cooper oodles of luck and success. Is he the smallest pitcher in the Phillies’ system? Sounds like he has a nice array of pitches with a decent fastball. He might benefit from a cutter.

    • Jay Floyd

      February 9, 2013 at 3:40 pm

      @bart shart
      There are plenty of Phils pitchers in the 5-foot-10-inch/6-foot range, but I think a few of the 5-10 guys add an inch or two. I don’t measure anyone, but on occasion, following an interview, I’ll write about a guy being listed in the 6-foot range and I think back to him being much closer to my height (5-foot-8 or 9), when we spoke. The magic of bio’s.

      Zach was certainly a nice guy to talk with and the coaches liked what they saw in him. He may begin next year back in Lakewood, but time with Clearwater may not be far off.

      • Ryne Duren

        February 10, 2013 at 7:37 am

        jay not to sound sarcastic, but he’s gonna be buried for the next three yrs. i get so sick of the phils drafting college player who they say has as a position player great tools, or a pitcher has good stuff. then already at age 22-23 after four yrs of college they stick them in the low minors and we won’t see that drafted player unless he does something really outstanding. (see darin ruf). i mean don’t they say college ball is the equivalent of AA? if so why do the do this? they stick them in low A. it makes no sense. i know if it were me not only would it be a blow to my ego, but i would think knowing i just played 4 yrs in AA equivalent compition that they must not think i’m good enough for that level. then why did they draft me?
        after a drafted player has that happen maybe they struggle for awhile, then the brass thinks he could be a few yrs away. then the wait begins. yes you don’t want to rush a player but sometimes you just gotta see if he’s up to the challenge. put him right at AA and if he doesn’t work out then lower him a notch. if you don’t think highly enough of a four yrs college player to put him at AA then why waste a pick?
        maybe i’m missing something or just frustrated, i don’t know, maybe a little of both.

      • schmenkman

        February 10, 2013 at 8:06 am

        I’ve heard the AA equivalence idea before, but it may not be right. I thought this was useful:

        “What are non-MLB associated baseball league talent equivalents?”

        Which includes this:
        “Top End Division I College Teams are probably not even as good as a Rookie league team, all things considered.”

      • George

        February 10, 2013 at 8:44 am

        Here’s a point to consider when comparing college teams and the minor leagues:

        Coming out of college, not very many players are even drafted. Even in the lowest of the minors (rookie ball) EVERY player has been drafted.

        I think that alone should be sufficient to compare talent level, and to prove why most of the best draftees are kept in the low minors for a while.

  2. Jay Floyd

    February 10, 2013 at 11:34 am

    This is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone say that D1 college ball is equal to AA in minors. It’s not. That is why it’s rare for college draftees to begin their careers anywhere else besides low A.

    Guys’ opportunities are often defined by their draft spot, and subsequently the money they signed for. Players drafted in the 6-10th rounds will get a way longer trial than a guy drafted in the 30th round or later. See Eric Pettis, a UC Irvine product who sported great numbers in 2 seasons with the Phils and was cut last spring training, while other players from earlier rounds that didn’t produce like him still have their sports.

    I would like to say it’s up to the player to hold his spot, but it’s not. Players can find themselves squeezed out of a job for reasons other than their output.

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