Halladay Wins 200th, Phils Hold off Fish – Phillies Nation

Halladay Wins 200th, Phils Hold off Fish

Roy Halladay won his 200th career game, as the Phils held on for deal life, 2-1, over the Marlins.

Doc Looking Better

-Anything would be better than the first two starts, but Halladay was in full control for most of the day. Through eight innings, Roy gave up just one run and one walk while striking out two. He needed only 87 pitches to go that deep, as the young, inexeprienced, and downright terrible Marlins offense was impatient.

-The question that stands out about this outing from Doc; how much of it was Halladay figuring things out, and how much of it had to do with it being the Miami Marlins? The answer is both. Halladay was clearly more crisp, especially as the game got into the middle innings. But you couldn’t help but think that a more talented offensive team would have punished Doc a little bit more.

Offense Gives Little

-The Phillies put up just six runs in three games against a bad team. Perhaps most importantly, they won two of the three. It was a sluggish showing and one they’ll have to quickly forget. Coming up, a Reds team that can slug, meaning they’ll have to be more focused offensively.

-The issue that stands out is leaving runners on base. The Phillies managed 12 hits on the day, but finished with only two crossing the plate. They’ll have to tighten up their situational hitting or it’ll be an ugly three-game set with Cincy.



  1. Lefty

    April 14, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Congrats to Doc, it doesn’t matter if it was just the 2013 Marlins or not. Building confidence is important for every athlete, it has to start somewhere.

    • glutenous

      April 14, 2013 at 9:20 pm

      Agreed. Last time doc pitched against a AAA opponent he didn’t fair very well. Baby steps. I hope the Phillies can continue their recent success against the Reds and take another series on the road.

  2. Double Trouble Del

    April 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm

    More of the same from last year and even stretches of 2011. Poor situational hitting…Jimmy in another one of his pop-up funks…no right hand power bat.

  3. Devin

    April 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm

    I’m not going to worry about the “situational hitting”. The human brain is wired to find patterns in everything and then assign meaning to them. This is one of those times. There hasn’t even been close to a significant sample size in total plate appearances. These RISP numbers are so far from meaningful that they aren’t even in the same country.

    Besides, a pretty good team hits around .300 with RISP. Probably lower than that even, thanks to the silly tendency of stupid managers to sacrifice non-pitcher batters. At least 2 thirds of at-bats this season with RISP are going to end in outs. With the team collectively hitting .250 right now (meaningless number), it would be reasonable for 3/4ths of RISP at-bats to end in outs.

    The moral? Hitting with runner’s in scoring position is ALWAYS a silly thing to panic about, but right now it’s down-right stupid.

    • Phil Ease

      April 14, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      Maybe so, but (excluding Nix’s home run) scoring five runs on 26 hits and nine walks against an AAAA team surely has some significance. Yes this is small sample size, but unless we’re going to refrain from commenting on the Phillies’ performance more than sporadically, it’s worth mentioning and being concerned about.

      • schmenkman

        April 15, 2013 at 7:44 am

        What makes the Marlins terrible is their hitting, not their pitching. The Phillies could have done better against Slowey, but Nolasco is a solid major league starter and Fernandez is legitimate phenom.

        Devin is right that it’s a very small sample so far, and RISP stats tend to look pretty much like a team’s overall stats. In fact, the team that showed the most improvement in 2012 in hitting with RISP vs. other situations was… the Phillies.

        In the first 12 games this year, believe it or not, the Phillies have the 6th best OPS with RISP in the NL (.803), and the 5th best batting average (.278).

  4. DavidE

    April 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    The Marlins pitching is major league. Starting pitching is good especially with Jose Fernandez and the bullpen is pretty good too. They held Atlanta down in 2 of the 3 games and they held the Nationals down in 2 of those games. The Marlins can’t hit especially without Stanton in the lineup.

  5. bacardipr

    April 15, 2013 at 12:55 am

    More importantly this will probably help Doc in the mental capacity of his game some. Even if the line up where made up of Michael Martinez clones. It appears this is a transitional phase for him. Hopefully he can figure it out sooner than later.

  6. Bob D

    April 15, 2013 at 2:12 am

    Doc was painting the corners and throwing well. He was good. I watched the mid to late innings and at that point his pitches were down and all very close. He induce ground balls most of the time. Even good teams would have had problems

  7. Phillies fan from Germany

    April 15, 2013 at 4:39 am

    4 out of 5 is what I was hoping for after that loss to the Mets dropped the Phillies to 2-5. Of course, I was hoping for a sweep against the Marlins but I am pretty sure that at the end of the season the Marlins will have won more than a third of their home games so a series win on the road for the Phils is at least OK.

    Now, 4 wins out of 7 against the tough Reds and Cards would be great! Lee vs. Arroyo tonight could get the Phils off to a good start to those difficult series.

  8. teeejay

    April 15, 2013 at 5:41 am

    I thing the biggest positive was that Halladay kept his pitch count low.
    He hadn’t that against anybody this year, including spring training.
    The couple innings I watched he threw a lot of curveballs.Did he do that the whole game?
    That tells me he
    s committed to changing his whole approach.

  9. brooks

    April 15, 2013 at 6:44 am

    Now the competition gets tough, now reality sinks in.
    Sure its early but the Marlins and Mets are really desert on the plate – here comes the tough stuff.
    Note, Votto hit his first HR of the 2013 season yesterday and has 3 rbi. Bruce has 0 hrs, Broxton’s ERA is higher than Doc’s – Reds are struggling to get out of the box as well. Not worse than the Marlins but both teams (Phils and Reds) are looking for a spark.

  10. Ken Bland

    April 15, 2013 at 7:59 am

    The strategy in pitching to the Reds is pretty clear. When their best hitter is hitting .289, but has an OBP of .542, that do say it all. The ironies of Votto’s start include that by the time he gets his power in gear, teams will be more likely to pitch to him. 20 walks in 12 games would indicate either X ray vision, or teams not pitching to him. That is an obscene ratio, and with Brandon Phillips and Jay Bruce hitting behind him, that’s REALLY amazing, small landscape that 12 games represent.

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