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Halladay Throwing, Red Sox/Tigers Interested in Papelbon?

Roy Halladay - Philadelphia PhilliesTwo big news items from this afternoon – the first comes from Phillies beat writer Todd Zolecki who says that Roy Halladay is feeling “good”. Zolecki notes that Halladay has been throwing from 60 ft. The Phillies are hoping Halladay will return in late August at the earliest.

Rich Dubee had this to say about watching Halladay in Zolecki’s piece:

“It looks very, very good,” Phillies pitching coach Rich Dubee said. “The arm action, he’s able to get his arm back up very easily. No effort at all. Whereas before, because of the stuff that he had going on in his shoulder, he couldn’t get it up on a consistent basis. But now his arm slot is fantastic and he’s doing very, very well so far. He’s a long ways from pitching, but everything so far is going according to plan.”

Jonathan Papelbon - Philadelphia PhilliesAnd the other big news item today was Jayson Stark reporting that the Phillies are talking to both the Red Sox and Tigers about closer Jonathan Papelbon even if the club themselves denies it. An unnamed exec had this to say in the Stark piece:

“Don’t be surprised if you see Papelbon end up in Detroit. If the Tigers have a chance to get the closer they need, they won’t let [a big asking price] stand in the way. So if you’re Ruben, how can you not do that if the Tigers step up the way I think they’re about to step up?”

The Red Sox and Tigers both have several top prospects but it may be a stretch to expect one as a return considering Papelbon’s high contract value. The Red Sox entered the year with Baseball America’s #8th, 31st, 40th, 49th, and 91st-ranked prospects while the Tigers have the 21st, 74th, and 95th-ranked prospects in the game.

Stark also noted that Chase Utley may be able to fetch the club a decent return should the team decide to retool. Stark believes that Utley is the player most likely to be traded should the Phillies become sellers. The Orioles have been noted to be in need of a second baseman and Utley could fit on just about any American League team in a DH role.



  1. Lefty

    June 25, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    # 21 is Nick Castellanos right? He looks like a pretty good hitter from his minor league numbers.

  2. Dave

    June 25, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    Doubt Detroit would give up Castellanos for Pap but perhaps Avisail Garcia would be a nice addition. Same in Boston where Bogarts is out of reach but Jose Iglesias might be worth a shot.

  3. Phil

    June 25, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Agree with Dave. Probably not gonna get a Castellanos, Bogaerts type for Papelbon, even if we send $$. In addition to Avisail Garcia, another more realistic name from the Bosox is Bryce Brentz, major league ready power hitting corner outfielder.

    • Double Trouble Del

      June 25, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      They will pay the price of Castellanos to say good bye to Valverde.

  4. George

    June 25, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    What the Phils get if they trade Papelbon will be determined largely by how much of his salary they’re willing to eat. The Sox and the Tigers may be desperate, but they’re not stupid.

  5. walt

    June 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Castellanos is blocked by miggy, prince and Martinez for years the tigers need a closer and have said they are all in this year. get it done Rueben

    • George

      June 25, 2013 at 8:44 pm

      Just teasing a little, but Rueben with an “E” is a sandwich. Ruben is the Phil’s GM. (And the “E” in the sandwich actually comes before the “U,” not after.)

      I also didn’t realize that Michael Martinez was blocking anybody except for certain Phils prospects.

      • George

        June 25, 2013 at 8:52 pm

        Actually, I can see why a person might confuse Amaro with a sandwich, or at least the lettuce in one.

        Of course now I’ll probably be acused of insulting the poor sandwich.

      • hogey's role

        June 25, 2013 at 9:17 pm

        he was talking about Victor Martinez of the tigers

  6. Damon

    June 25, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    I think Castellanos is definitely in play. I don’t think the Phillies make a deal unless they get him back.

  7. bacardipr

    June 25, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    So they giving up on the season?

    • schmenkman

      June 25, 2013 at 11:39 pm

      There usually aren’t any trades before late July, so no reason to give up anything before then. It hasn’t looked good at all so far, but things can turn around quickly and stranger things have happened. And other cliches, as well.

    • jobang

      June 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm

      Not giving up, giving in. This team is cooked.

  8. jdm

    June 26, 2013 at 2:32 am


  9. Dave

    June 26, 2013 at 8:02 am

    If the Phillies trade Utley and Lee I will have ZERO interest in this team as will many other fans. Expect attendance to plummet.

    • hogey's role

      June 26, 2013 at 9:42 am

      I’ll second that

  10. USC

    June 26, 2013 at 10:20 am

    With the emergence of Franco, I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Phillies include Asche in a deal to get a better prospect. While he isn’t a great prospect, he does certainly rank as fair and projects as a ML regular.

  11. Dylan

    June 26, 2013 at 10:53 am

    papelbon for victorino and a prospect gives us something to cheer about

    • schmom

      June 26, 2013 at 5:04 pm

      i miss victorino sooo much!! he is a leader on a team (that now needs leaders) and has such a great personality not to mention fielding (are you listening Revere?)

      that would be amazing to get rid of papelbon (who stinks and is a downer) and get back victorino –who would love to come back to philly

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