Phillies Nation TV: Dom Brown, Baseball Reference, The Blue Meanie – Phillies Nation

Phillies Nation TV: Dom Brown, Baseball Reference, The Blue Meanie

Pat and Corey are back this week with their unique perspective on Phillies baseball. They make a case for Dom Brown starting the All-Star game, preview the Phillies current road trip (and why now is the time to bury the Nationals), plus figure out what’s going on with Mike Adams. Ryann relays some of the best fan questions of the week, like when is the right time to promote Darin Ruf and should the Phils trade Cliff Lee (gasp!)?

Corey sits down with Sean Forman, founder and president of the “cathedral of baseball statistics” They discuss the origins of the web site, the usefulness of the Play Index tool and how Chase Utley is an underrated player.

Then Ian is shown the ropes – both literally and figuratively – by pro wrestler and South Philly native, The Blue Meanie.



  1. bigkahuana

    June 12, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    OK fans, what do you think about Cliff Lee and Ben Revere for Mike Trout. The Angels may bite on this considering how poorly they’re playing.

    • schmenkman

      June 12, 2013 at 3:22 pm

      a) pay Lee/Revere $25+ mil to provide less value than Trout
      b) pay Trout less than $1 mil to be one of the best in the game, and have $24 mil left over for other players

      Tough one 🙂

    • Devin

      June 12, 2013 at 3:54 pm

      That is absolutely insane. That is the silliest trade proposal I have ever heard. Mike Trout is not available. If Mike Trout was available, it would take players that the Phillies don’t have. And like 9 of them. You’re talking about a guy who was almost an MVP in his rookie season, a 21 year old with more raw talent than any other player in the league under team control for very close to the minimum. He would be the hardest player in all of baseball to obtain in a trade.

      • Devin

        June 12, 2013 at 3:55 pm

        If Cliff Lee was 25, and Ben Revere was Mike Stanton, and the Phils agreed to eat all of both salaries, at that point the Angels would take a few seconds to think before saying no.

    • bones

      June 13, 2013 at 3:48 pm

      Love to have Mike Trout,local boy from Millville,N.J. Would hate to see Ben + Cliff leave but Cliff is 34+Ben is 25 still young but Trout can hit long ball as well as average+ just 21!

  2. Mike in NJ

    June 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    I, too, must facepalm at this suggestion. Why the Hell would the Angels make that trade?!?

  3. woody

    June 13, 2013 at 11:10 am

    I would keep cliff lee , get rid of ben revear. bring up darin ruff send howard to the minors, until he remembers how to hit. ever since rollins got his contract he has no drive in him. freddy glavis should be ss

    • schmenkman

      June 13, 2013 at 11:29 am

      Afraid not — Rollins actually had one of his best seasons overall last year, and was one of the best shortstops in baseball. Not doing too bad this year, either.

      • hk

        June 13, 2013 at 5:15 pm


        Why do you think so many people want to get rid of Rollins (.313 wOBA YTD in a down year) and replace him with Galvis (.272 wOBA in 344 career PA’s)? This team struggles to score runs as it is. I can’t even imagine how bad this team’s offense would have been so far if they had Galvis as the everyday SS and Jimmy was on another team for the first 66 games. SS is the next-to-last place (obviously LF is last) that this team needs an upgrade.

        I have been very critical of RAJ’s moves, but I liked – and continue to like – the decision to re-sign Rollins.

      • George

        June 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm

        hk, I second that notion. I can’t think of why so many people want Rollins gone. Mass frustration, maybe; but picking on Rollins is still pretty dumb. He’s not perfect, but he’s not the problem, either. I’d take him over ten Delmon Youngs, and if you threw in half the bullpen, I’d still take Rollins.

    • Ken Bland

      June 13, 2013 at 12:16 pm

      Your point about Rollins might carry some truth. You specifically commented on his efforts, nit his results and as long as you apply proper credit to his current and projected future, you aren’t being unfair. Player wise, all around, Jimmy’s still an asset, and probably is for the balance of his deal. Probably even the option year. Asset’s kind of gray, but the guy hasn’t been enamoring a while.

      Attitude and heart can be tough to read. The go getters are easy. Jimmy, occasionally lackadaisical is another story. But I moistr definitely suspect that in a winning environment, his concentration improves. Maybe from good to great, as opposed to bad to okay, or good, as I said, it’s a hard thing to read. But I suspect he’s bored as hell with this bullshit, as may be quite a few.

      The Cardinals have had a tremendous start, and Raffy Furcal, a pretty major contributor in his time there is out, replaced by Pete Kozma. He gives you good effort, plays half decent short, and is at best acceptable offensively. The Cards would be a simply perfect next or last stop for Jimmy. A trade there would provide less question about Jimmy’s approach.

      My point is Jimmy could still be part of a retool. His situation isn’t that much different than Bowa’s was. Hopefully, they can do a better joib replacing Jimmy. Fredy may or may not be a good solution for a while. Roman Quinn is not necessarily gonna stay at short, and is 2 years away. But at this point, Jimmy is far more valuble to other franchises, and trying parlay for worth isn’t a bad idea.

    • schmenkman

      June 13, 2013 at 12:50 pm

      In any case, we can only guess at what he’s feeling. All we can go by is the results, and the results show that in the year-plus since signing his contract, he’s been about as good as he ever was (aside from 2007), which is not bad at all for a player in his age 33-34 seasons.

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