Halladay Says Comments on Manuel “Lost in translation” – Phillies Nation

Halladay Says Comments on Manuel “Lost in translation”

halladaySomething didn’t seem right. Roy Halladay has never been the kind of person to throw a manager or coach under the bus. He’s one of the most thoughtful players I’ve come across and last night’s comments seemed out of the ordinary for him.

Halladay cleared the air with the media today.

Here are yesterday’s comments following his start at Lakewood. Below are today’s:

“I’ve exchanged texts with Charlie,” Halladay said after pitching six innings in a minor-league rehab game Tuesday night. “Obviously, I loved him. He was great. But from what I’ve seen, Ryne [Sandberg] came in and made some changes and addressed some issues that I think were being overlooked. So from that standpoint, as much as I miss Charlie, I think that Ryne’s going to do a good job and I think he’s going to bring back a little more of the Phillie baseball style than we’ve had the last couple of years. You know, we really haven’t had that whole team effort and the whole team hustle that I think we’ve had in prior years.”

“Just different things,” he said. “Guys being in places on time. Being on the field on time. Taking ground balls, taking extra BP, and all those little things that nobody thinks makes a difference.

“So I think [Sandberg] has been very good so far. But, again, I don’t want to take anything away from Charlie. We all respected him tremendously. You know, I think he’s going to have the choice of what he wants to do at this point in his life, so I’m happy for him.”


Today’s comments:

“I felt like what was said necessarily wasn’t written. And I just want to make it well known that I have a lot of respect for Charlie. There were some articles put out that offended me and I’m sure offended Charlie. I called him today and talked to him about it. We’ve been in a lot of contact since he’s left. I loved playing for him, he was a great manager and everybody here loved him; the players loved him, and he was a lot of the reason they won the World Series here. I just want to make that point clear.

I was also trying to say that I feel like if there’s somebody that’s going to replace a guy like that, it’s gonna be a Ryne Sandberg type of person with the experience that he carries and everything else. But I really felt like a lot was lost in translation with respect to Charlie. I just want to make that clear, that I don’t endorse any managers firing. That’s the players who get managers fired.

Anytime a manager is fired you feel like you haven’t done your job. Really, that’s it. I just want to make sure that the air is clear there. And I talked to Charlie and we’re good. But I wanted him to know that I really enjoyed playing for him and as far as managers have gone, he’s the best I’ve ever been around. I really enjoyed the time with him.

On the same token, I look forward to working with Ryne, too. Really that’s about it. I think I saw one title that said I endorsed the firing of Charlie Manuel, and that really bothered me. Just wanted to make sure that we were all clear.”


Opinion: It seemed to me that Halladay was calling out his teammates more than anything. Everyone knows his level of respect for Manuel is through the roof and it’s not in Halladay’s nature to rip a guy that he has played for.

On a side note, Halladay will pitch Sunday at Double-A Reading.



  1. john

    August 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    glad he didn’t back out of his original comments. was never a charlie fan. would have won more titles with somebody more baseball savvy . bring back the hit and run,and squeeze play, and the double switch. bench jimmy till he asks for a trade, and keep playing the young guys.

    • schmenkman

      August 21, 2013 at 10:59 pm

      @john – “would have won more titles with somebody more baseball savvy”

      It’s possible they would have won more with a different manager — there is absolutely no way of knowing, or even guessing. It’s also possible they would not have won even one.

  2. Lee

    August 21, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    I take him at his word. If someone wants to tell the story and infer that Doc has no respect for Charlie, they re barking up the wrong tree. He has respect for both managers, and digging for a story that says otherwise is ignoring the respect Doc has for both Charlie and Ryne. Let it go.

  3. Chuck A.

    August 21, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    This is EXACTLY what I was trying to say in the other thread. It seemed as though some were implying that Doc was throwing Charlie under the bus but I had a feeling that really wasn’t the case. Doc is waaaaay to classy for that.

  4. G7

    August 21, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Hard to lose in translation that the new manager is addressing issues that were being overlooked..

  5. Carlos Danger

    August 21, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    Scarlett Johansson was hot in that flick!

    Some alarming numbers courtesy of Ryan Lawrence:
    “The Phillies rotation has a 5.79 ERA since All-Strak break; the next closest MLB team is nearly a full run lower. Take away Cole Hamels’ six starts and the Phillies post-All-Star break rotation has 7.08 ERA.”



  6. George

    August 21, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Some might call it clarification. I call it trying to extract his foot from his mouth.

  7. brooks

    August 22, 2013 at 5:56 am

    Can’t wait for Doc to come back. Fast ball up to 87 mph eh?
    Sounds like he is ready for batting practice!
    Doc realized that his comments started a little brush fire and he wanted to cushion is just a tad. Of course he loved Cholly, everybody did but that does not mean he did not have his faults. Cholly had to go, its just the method and timing that got me pissed to the point where I am at least considering not renewing my tickets for next year. Maybe a “6 pack” or 2…

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