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The Ultimate Season-Ending Phillies Polls — Part I

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We want your opinion, it’s important to us at Phillies Nation. Just fill out the polls below, telling us what you think about several topics pertaining to the future of the Phillies. Many of these will be featured in an upcoming episode of Phillies Nation TV.

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40 Comments

40 Comments

  1. Keith

    September 11, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    A couple of these questions need a “but” added to them. Rollins will likely be the starting SS BUT it’s because he wants to break records. Papelbon will be the closer BUT it’s because his contract is untradeable. It is tough for the Phillies when spots on your roster are filled because the team cannot get rid of them.

    • GTown_Dave

      September 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm

      The Phillies will sign a FA pitcher, BUT his name will be Kyle Kendrick.

      Kyle Kendrick will be in the Phillies starting rotation in 2014, BUT that’s because overpaying for mediocrity is a hallmark of the Ruben Amaro, Jr. era.

      Ruben Amaro, Jr. will be with the Phillies beyond 2014, BUT that’s because Monty & Co. have the baseball sense of a random blob of creosote.

      • frank

        September 11, 2013 at 2:36 pm

        I think the most important question that will show the fans confidence in decision makers is: do you think the phillies will win between 85 and 95 games.
        Do you think the phillies will win between 75 and 85 games
        Do you think the phillies will win between 65 and 75 games

    • schmenkman

      September 11, 2013 at 3:22 pm

      I’m glad Rollins said that he wants to break Phillies records. I took it as he was proud and happy to have been with the Phillies organization long enough and played well enough to climb those lists, and he intends to remain part of this organization for the foreseeable future. And he’s not making anything tough on the Phillies — Crawford is years away.

      By the way, here’s one that’s not Phillies related — most extra base hits as a shortstop in MLB history:

      855 – Ripken (out of 1078 total)
      830 – Jeter (846)
      753 – Rollins (754)
      752 (e) – Cronin (803)
      748 – Tejada (798)
      707 – Larkin (715)
      673 (e) – Wagner (996)

      Recent players’s numbers are from their splits at baseball reference.com; Cronin and Wagner’s are estimated based on games at each position by year.

      • midwestphillyphan

        September 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm

        forget crawford, what about galvis?? i’d pick galvis over j-roll

      • Chuck A.

        September 11, 2013 at 7:02 pm

        Galvis is a nice player but he’s not a regular. I think of him more as a super sub, someone that can play multiple positions…2nd, 3rd, SS, the outfield.

  2. Joe matla

    September 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    I don’t think this team is very far away .another starter and tweek the bullpen and the bench and there you go! The division is not that Tough! I think the young kids like Ruf, Ashe, Rosenburg, Brown and Revere made some noise! Whith a little luck and some good health we’ll be right in this thing next year!

    • joe matla is an idiot

      September 11, 2013 at 7:18 pm

      its not tough? Mets are getting better, braves, nats. what are you on dumbass

      • Adam

        September 11, 2013 at 9:28 pm

        Not to mention the fact that the Marlins are due to win a World Series soon.

      • Stuart

        September 12, 2013 at 8:26 am

        Mets wont have Harvey and still don’t have a great team besides a couple of good pitchers. Nationals are extremely overrated and showed that this year and the Braves were horrible for the first half then started feasting on the rest of the division with late division series against weak teams. We were horrible for the first half and were in it after the all star break.

        Have you been watching the season dumb ass?

      • petetoth

        September 12, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        What season have YOU been watching dumbass? You say the “Braves had a horrible first half”? They started out 13-1.

    • Bill T.

      September 12, 2013 at 3:23 am

      You can tweak the bullpen all you want, but unless you can field a team that scores more than 3 runs per game, you don’t stand much of a chance of going to the playoffs. Amaro thinks all you need to win is pitching. Look at the stats for the Phils starters. Quality starts from all, but nobody on the team can hit a sacrifice fly. Can’t count the number of times man on third, no outs, still on third with 3 outs. Brown fizzled out. Rollins usually gets hits when nobody is on base, otherwise pops out. Can’t count on Howard playing much. Too busy spending his big contract money. I think Ryne will be good for the team. He knows the importance of small ball. Too many hitters don’t swing at the first pitch. Start out behind in the count, 1st pitch is usually the best you will get. I don’t believe in platooning relievers either. Your best pitchers can face lefties or righties. Phils have a lot of small problems, not many large ones…..

      • schmenkman

        September 12, 2013 at 4:25 am

        @Bill T., most of those impressions don’t hold up to scrutiny:

        – the quality starts stat can be misleading, and in the case of the Phillies it certainly is. The Phillies have the hgihest ERA (and have allowed the most runs overall) of any team in the NL. Have you noticed the Pirates have only barely outscored the Phils this year (3.90 to 3.76 per game), and have done pretty well?

        – despite some memorable and frustrating failures, the Phils are better than average with men on third and less than two out. They’ve gotten the run home in those situations 52% of the time. The NL average is 50%. Only one team in the NL (STL at 54%) is higher than 52%.

        – Rollins has actually hit much better with men on base (and even better with RISP) than with no one on:

        empty: .212 avg, .583 OPS
        men on: .297 avg, .740 OPS
        RISP: .300 avg, .811 OPS

        – Brown was player of the month in May. Since June 1 he’s still hitting .275 with an .816 OPS. , with 12 HR in 69 games. Still not bad at all, and it’s true with any player that if you pull out their best month their stats won’t be as good.

        – Howard played hurt again this year, and in fact has played injured more than he should. From the time he got a cortisone shot in mid-May until he had to go on the DL for surgery in early July, he hit .289 with an .861 OPS — we’ll take that production any day.

  3. George

    September 11, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    All of these questions should have a “not sure” box, not just the one about Franco, or maybe a “but,” as indicated by someone else. I would think the “but” should not be about players being around due to bad contracts, or about calling the front office people morons. It should be more about qualifiers, such as “Will Ruf be a starter, and if so, how long.”

    Most of these questions can’t possibly be answered with a simplistic yes or no. Yes, maybe Ruf or Asche or even Franco will start the year as regulars, but what do fans think their chances of sticking really are? What are the chances that no starting pitchers are signed, or more than one? What about Halladay?

    The questions here are too black and white, and not even inclusive of things like the bench and the bullpen (other than Papelbon).

  4. Ken Bland

    September 11, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    It’s a shame that voting is encouraged and comments are an afterthought merely encouraged by an incentive of including the comment on the program.

    The reason I say that is because as of this message, 5 people have expressed the view that Sandberg won’t be the skipper next year. And I’d bet that out of those 5 votes, if the people voting attached a comment explaining their logic, 1 or 2 would be interesting to read, and shed some additional light on guessing at the outcome of his interim tenure. So if large vote counts give the results more on the surface creedence when it’s aired, that’s great, and validates the purpose businesswise, but to myself, as an individual strictly looking for interesting thinking behind some of the votes, it’s not important. Obviously, the priority is purpose for the show, so right on.

    How practical that idea is in terms of implementing might be a whole different story as well. .

    The wide margin of affirmatives for Ryno just doesn’t seem to say much at all, considering what seems an awfully unscientific poll, and it’s assumptive on my part to think that any of the 5 would offer anything interesting, but I suspect there’s be something in there that’d be interesting rather than just plain silly.

    The only ? that jumps out magnetizing a definitive answer is Franco, who I think has less than an ice cube’s chance in Sun City of making the opening day roster. He’ll get 2014 at bats, and maybe as soon as before the all-star break. And that’s probably the right thing to do, even if it’s more comment on the decision makers and the way they operate. Cold fronts move through Sun City, so I guess there’s a VERY minimal chance.

  5. Linda Smith

    September 11, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Some of my answers are based on my hopes and wishes, but being its the phillies, I have to be realistic

    • Lefty

      September 11, 2013 at 4:21 pm

      I did the opposite. I voted what I think they will do, not what I want them to do.

      But that’s the problem with this kind of poll, it’s going to be around 50-50 think/want I’d guess.

      • Carlos Danger

        September 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm

        Exactly. I did the same thing with many questions. For instance, I’m not as sold on Ruf as an everyday player as most people (including the organization) seem to be. If you start with September 2012 and go from there, his numbers have declined each and every month that he’s played in the Majors. He’s batting .227 since August 1 and striking out once every three ABs. People are enamored with the longball though, and the organization has a recent history of hoping an outfielder who’s better suited to be a bench player blossoms into a starter (Francisco, Mayberry Jr.). So it’s pretty clear he’ll begin the season as a starter (even though I’d be willing to bet he doesn’t end the season that way).

      • BruiserNJ

        September 12, 2013 at 1:01 pm

        I agree Lefty, The questions could have been asked in a more direct manor.
        For example:
        Will Ruf start in RF next year…I said no because I think he should play 1st…

        BruiserNJ

  6. Johnny Goodtimes

    September 11, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    I hope there is a follow up poll that expresses what we wish would happen as opposed to what we think will happen. Those of us who see what a complete and utter disaster Amaro has been don’t want him back past 2014 (don’t want him back past today, actually), but I suspect he will be. I suspect most Phillies fans don’t want Papelblown back either, but don’t see any way they could possibly unload him and his absurd contract (courtesy of the aforementioned GM).

  7. Dave P

    September 11, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    There’s no need to rush Franco to the majors in 2014. I expect to see him get the Spring Training invite, but at this point it looks like it’s Asche’s job to lose. Asche’s major league career started off with a 1 for 17 run. Since then he’s been hitting .305, and he has 5 home runs in 112 at bats. Just for reference, it took Michael Young until June 28th to hit 5 home runs. Add to that Asche’s glove not being a liability, and you have a young guy who deserves his shot at being the every day third baseman.

  8. Justin Arce

    September 11, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Im hoping the phillies take a look at timmy now that he might not be with the giants next season possibly add another ace during the offseasn could we have halladay lee lincecum hamels and gonzalez as our rotation?

  9. Jim Evans Jr.

    September 11, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    I can see the 2014 roster as: Howard Utley Rollins Asche Ruf Revere Brown Ruiz w/ C.Hernandez Galvis & Frandsen on the roster now coming from the bench. I can see Paps being dealt for a reserve OF w/ pop IE Hinske, and reserve C being a C.Rupp w/ Kratz signed as an Iron Pig. Rotation: Lee Hamels Pettibone Halladay w/ a FA. Pen: Rosenberg Martin Diekman Adams DeFratus Jimnez w/ Kendrick back where he’s most effective (Long Man)

  10. Joan Hylinski

    September 11, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    I have not received an email to activate my account.

  11. DavidE

    September 11, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Asche being the 3rd baseman for next year is basically a no brainer. The question you have to ask is why the Phillies didn’t recognize his talent sooner. Regarding Ruf, I thnk he will be with the team but I am not sure if he will be a starting outfielder on opening day. Again the question is why did the Phillies feel that they needed to go with Delmon Young in right field rather than going with Ruf.

    • schmenkman

      September 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm

      “The question you have to ask is why the Phillies didn’t recognize his talent sooner.”

      I don’t know why anyone would ask this, to be honest. He had his first good year last year, when he started in Clearwater and was promoted to Reading mid-season. After that they promoted him again to AAA for this year, and here he is.

      Ruf didn’t start the year with the club because he looked comically disastrous in the outfield in spring training (it didn’t help that he didn’t hit much there either).

    • schmenkman

      September 12, 2013 at 2:45 pm

      Ian R. made a good point about this on Twitter: “You know what’s a minor miracle? The fact the Phillies stuck with Cody Asche after he hit .192/.273/.264 in 268 PA w/ Williamsport in 2011.”
      https://twitter.com/IanRiccaboni/status/378223443340062721

    • smitty

      September 12, 2013 at 5:15 pm

      Asche wasn’t ready. He has a penchant for failing at a level first and then picking up steam and finishing with a flourish. He needed to start in the majors when he could adjust without being a liability – and have it ruin his confidence. I am sure all the pundits are surprised at his progress to date – meaning Keith Law & group…

  12. George W

    September 11, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    The questions make you think about next year and the question is go the Yankees way and try to buy a team or plug along with essentially what we got. I think RAJ will give this one more year. We will get mediocre results. Then spend the TV money and buy free agents. Give us a winner and the Park will be filled every night

  13. Jael

    September 11, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    Who will be back next year?.
    Who is the best player on the phillies?.
    Who be your all star on the teem?.

  14. phillyphankev

    September 11, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    #4 …how many games does howard play in 2014?…doesn’t say anything about for the Phillies…gotta say goodbye would be a sweet relief…
    #9…will darin ruf be in the outfield to start the season?…see answer provided for question #4 gotta give ruf the nod over the aging ailing howard…sorry big piece…but PEACE!!!

  15. Barry Eli

    September 11, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    As a life long Phillies fan, most of what I would like to see will not happen but here goes anyway. Try really hard to trade Howard and Papelbon despite contract issues. My starting lineup would look like 1b Ruf 2b Utley ss Rollins 3b Asche c Ruiz lf Brown cf Revere-Hernandez platoon and a FA in rf. starters Hamels, Lee, Petibone, Halladay and a FA. I’d give the closer job to Rosenberg and go frm there.

  16. Bob D

    September 11, 2013 at 8:37 pm

    I say Halladay will likely be back instead of Kendrick. (Gonzalez, Pettibone, Morgan, Biddle will battle for last spot.)

    Free Agent pitcher signed: I will go out and say Lincecum or Johnson to sign with Phils

    Ruiz will be catcher

    Another starting OF will be signed to battle Ruf for starter, taking Mayberrys spot

    Galvis and Hernandez will battle it out for 1 bench spot

    • Ken Bland

      September 12, 2013 at 9:44 am

      There is zero chance Timmy’s Philly bound. I mean 0. If you wanna know why that’s nothing less than hard core fact, lemme know, Mum’s the word ‘on the subject til then.

      Of greater possibility, although it’s almost comparable to debating a roster spot between Jimmy Foxx and Martinez, if Hernandez has a chance to battle Galvis for a bench spot, Jefferson Davis has a chance to throw a challenge flag and get them to reciew video of the Civil War and do a takeover. t this point, Galvis has them thinking he’s John Havlicek.

      A fact and an opinion in 1 message. Such diversity!

      Jimmy Foxx be dead. That might be an even battle.

  17. Howard Wachtel

    September 11, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Hard to predict what the Phillies roster will be, since nearly all teams will make several changes in the offseason. Easily 1 or 2 regulars could be brought in from elsewhere. Injuries will to a large extent determine the fate of the team. Most of the contenders this year have been relatively healthy.

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  18. Skylar

    September 12, 2013 at 2:49 am

    I’d just assume Rollins be benched ( because of his under-performing job at the plate ) not to mention the $ he’s making for hitting in the .240-.245 range All. Year. Long, and *hope* he waives his no-trade clause to go somewhere else.

    Rollins ( like Howard ) is merely playing on a “loyalty” contract that Amaro gave both of them, and neither of them are playing *anywhere near* up to par.

    • schmenkman

      September 12, 2013 at 3:54 am

      Skylar, with all due respect that’s ridiculous on many levels. When healthy they are both still the best option the Phillies have at those positions.

  19. Bob D

    September 12, 2013 at 10:54 am

    I don’t see Rollins waiving his no trade – thus he will be here for 2 years or 1 if he is injured next year and misses too much time for his 2015 contract to kick in.

    Also I am all for the best player to play regardless of salary. The payroll is the same if Galvis and Ruf start and Rollins and Howard are on bench as opposed to Howard and Rollins start and Galvis and Ruf on bench.

    • schmenkman

      September 12, 2013 at 11:05 am

      Completely agree on the last point. Which is why I think Rollins should start every game, and Howard should start against all righties and sit vs. lefties (assuming Ruf starts hitting them at some point like he did last year).

  20. BruiserNJ

    September 12, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    I voted no to Ruf starting in RF because I want him to start at 1st, I think the Phils should send Howard go to the AL to be a DH somewhere….He clearly is in not baseball shape, and has a better chance at longevity in the AL. 2008 has come and gone, time to move on.

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