Joyner and Samuel Returning For 2014 – Phillies Nation

Joyner and Samuel Returning For 2014*450/20130327_dn_0mibsqul.jpgThe Phillies announced today through their Twitter that Wally Joyner and Juan Samuel will be returning to the Phillies in 2014 in their respective roles, assistant hitting coach and first base coach. Joyner  joined the Phillies staff for the 2013 season while Samuel has been a coach with the Phillies since 2011. Under Dave Henderson and Joyner, the Phillies ranked 21st in MLB in batting average, 24th in on-base percentage, and 21st in slugging while the Phillies under Samuel ranked 21st in stolen bases while they were tied for 16th with a 72% success rate in 2013.



  1. Lefty

    October 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Joyner is a surprise.

  2. Ken Bland

    October 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

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  3. wbramh

    October 18, 2013 at 6:08 am

    Hard to be an effective hitting coach without raw talent to work with but Joyner’s one apparent success was Dom Brown. That alone should make him deserving of sticking around. But basically, I have no idea why MLB team hitting stats should have much reflection on a hitting coach if the players flat out stink – and how do you come to any conclusions over the performance of a first-year assistant hitting coach like Joyner. Seems a stretch to blame him for the team’s failings in that department.

    Same is true for Samuel. Frankly, I don’t think it takes all that much talent to coach first base and little or no more to coach third. As for teaching base-stealing, I think most good base-stealers rely more on natural brains and talent than coaching. Guys like Wills, Brock & Henderson had speed but more importantly, they were great students of the game. Wills had his second highest stolen base total (94) at age 32. Coco Crisp is another good example. He was a better base-stealer at age 31 than he was at 21 despite age and injuries slowing him down. And then there was Lou Brock, a record 117 stolen bases at the tender age of 35. Ricky Henderson’s best years for stolen bases occurred early but he still managed to steal 66 bases at age 39 (this year’s MLB leader was 29-year-old Jacoby Ellsbury with 52 SBs). And none of the greats ever waited for the first base coach to tell them when to run.

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