Philly Dream Series – Game 2 Preview – Phillies Nation

Philly Dream Series – Game 2 Preview

After a surprising and dramatic Game 1 victory for the 2008 Phillies, the 1929 A’s look to rebound with George Earnshaw on the mound in Game 2. Johnny Goodtimes, Dr. Bruce Kuklick and Corey Seidman return to analyze Game 1 results and preview Game 2 of the Philly Dream Series.  Check back this afternoon to see the results.



  1. Fat Joe

    October 26, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    In 1928 Lefty Grove had a 6.9 WAR, Cole Hamels in 2008 had roughly 4 WAR. Their ERA+ are also very different.

    This whole faked “Dream Series” is part of the problem with the Phillies, it’s the same type of delusional that Rube Amaro had when he before the 2013 season still had a group of players that could go to the world series.

    I really like the Phillies, but nobody is going to make me believe the 2008 version was one of the best teams ever.

    There are some very real, structural, problems with the Phillies of today. Why not talk about those instead of pretending we were really good – once?

    I’m just waiting to hear arguments for J-Rol to be in the HOF.

    On the current Phillies roster there is only one player who should be in the HOF, and that’s of course Roy Halladay.

    Mark Twain said that there are three kinds of lies. Lies, damn lies and statistics.

    That’s what you’re kind of doing here.

    I love the Phillies, and the Phillies nation. But it does nobody any good to pretend things are ok.

    Odds are Phillies will end up second to last in their division next year.

    My bet is that even the Marlins will finish ahead, and Phillies in last place. Because the money spent is spent in all the wrong places.

    • schmenkman

      October 26, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      The ’29 A’s lost lots of games, some of them, I’m sure, to bad teams. The ’08 team wasn’t a great team, but it was a very good team, and I can’t imagine why anyone would be surprised that they could win ONE game against the ’29 A’s. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phillies won the series, since, after all, inferior teams win short series *all the time*.

      Any simulation that had the A’s winning every single game would not only be boring, it would be extremely unrealistic.

    • Ken Bland

      October 26, 2013 at 6:01 pm

      Seems to me there’s some flaw iin your pretty well presented thoughts.


      Seems fair to say that somewhere between 5.5 and 6 out of every 10 “smart’ baseball fanms would have expected Tampa to take the matchup that evolved. That edge would have been based on better starting pitching, and winning a tougher division. And I don’t remember if they won the AL East, but they played in it, and Boston was a tough competitor. But the point is it’s not like the Phils beat some slouch.

      Secondly, the Phiuls might not have had tremendous top to bottom starters, but that was a talented club. Awesome back of the pen, terrific offense, real good defense.

      The A’s were awesome. Won 104, beat the Yanks by 18 games, and would rate a heavy favorite over most any club in history in similar water cooler discourse. But that the Phils beat Tampa tells you that maybe they were a better club than credited. It’s not like it’s comical if it’s a competitive series.

      By the way, in what might heve been a similarly conducted what if competition, thye Phils ’08 club beat the ’86 Mets (don’t recall the games won tally, but that ’86 Met club was pretty awesome, and the Phils beat them.

    • Johnny Goodtimes

      October 27, 2013 at 10:28 am

      I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here about the Phillies. But it kind of misses the point of this exercise. I laid it out in my initial post…there will be 4 full cold winter months after this Dream Series is over to talk about what a disaster RAJ is. There is no reason to be in a rush. And with the World Series upon us, we simply want to have a little fun with that 2008 team, while teaching Phillies fans about the greatest team in the city’s history.

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