Phillies Add Four To 40-Man Roster

Catcher Tommy Joseph,  outfielders Aaron Altherr and Kelly Dugan, and lefty Rob Rasmussen were added to the Phillies 40-man roster today, bringing the Phillies active roster to 39.

Joseph, 22, is playing Dominican Winter ball after missing a majority of the 2013 season with concussion-related issues. Joseph was the headlining piece of the trade that sent Hunter Pence to San Francisco in 2012.

Altherr, 23 in January, hit a career-high 12 homers to go along with career high on-base and slugging percentages for High-A Clearwater with 23 steals in 28 attempts.

Dugan, 23, hit a career-high 20 homers between Clearwater and Reading, continuing a power surge that took hold once he became fully healthy in 2012. Dugan was the Phillies’ first pick in the 2009 draft.

Rasmussen, 24, was the Marlins second round pick in 2010 and came to the Phillies in August for Michael Young. Rasmussen averages about seven and a half strikeouts per nine innings pitched. Used primarily as a starter, Rasmussen likely has a future in the big leagues as a reliever.

Analysis: The two names that stand out as missing for me are reliever Mike Nesseth and outfielder Anthony Hewitt. Nesseth, 25, may have pitched himself out of contention with a poor AFL and the Phillies may believe Hewitt, 24, the 24th overall pick in the 2008 draft, would be able to survive the Rule V.

Of note, Seth Rosin, 25, piece of Pence trade,  and Nefi Ogando, 24, bounty in John McDonald deal, were also left unprotected.



  1. Cs

    November 20, 2013 at 9:40 pm

    Nefi? Or alexi?

  2. Double Trouble Del

    November 20, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Just saw that the Tigers were able to unload Prince Fielder and $30 million in a deal that will net the Tigers Ian Kinsler. RAJ are you reading, listening, getting creative????

    • schmenkman

      November 20, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      It’ll be interesting to see how Kinsler does outside of Arlington.

      Career road OPS:
      Byrd .759, D.Youbg .748, Rollins .724, Mayberry .720, Kinsler, .710, Revere .696

      Last 3 years’ road OPS:
      Byrd .834, D.Young .707, Rollins .706, Mayberry .705, Revere .701, Kinsler .690

    • hk

      November 21, 2013 at 7:07 am

      After reading about the deal, i wondered whether the Phils, if they hadn’t extended Utley, could and would have traded Howard and $30M to Texas for Kinsler.

      What’s better from the Rangers’ perspective, 3 years of Howard (age 34-36 seasons) for $55M or 7 years of Fielder (age 30-36 seasons) for $138M?

      What’s better from the Phillies’ perspective, effectively paying $92M for four years of Kinsler and having to replace Howard or having Howard + Utley for $125M for the next three years (assuming Utley’s 2016 option vests)?

      • Hogey's Role

        November 21, 2013 at 8:17 am

        We could have moved utley to first after the Howard trade though….
        Either way you spin it doesn’t matter Ryan Howard isn’t going anywhere, I’m 99% certain of that

      • schmenkman

        November 21, 2013 at 8:28 am

        That’s a tough choice, even if the Phillies didn’t have to pay some of Howard’s contract.

      • hk

        November 21, 2013 at 9:22 am


        Because of how well Utley positions himself in the field, he is still a plus defender at 2B and his hitting numbers combined with being a plus defender at an up the middle position makes him much more valuable at 2B than he would be as a 1B. Last year, Utley’s wOBA was 4th among all 2B’s with enough PA’s to be considered qualified by Fangraphs while his wOBA would have been 12th among all 1B’s. Therefore, making that deal and having Utley at 1B and Kinsler at 2B is not necessarily going to be better than going with Howard at 1B (especially if Ruf or another RHB platoons with him) and Utley at 2B.

      • Hogey's Role

        November 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm

        Where did Howard and ruf rank on that list last year??

      • hk

        November 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm


        Neither Howard nor Ruf had enough PA’s last year to qualify. Ignoring that fact, Howard’s .334 wOBA would have placed him 17th and Ruf’s .354 wOBA would have placed him 12th. However, even in an injury plagued season like last, Howard produced a .371 wOBA vs. RHP’s. If the Phils had employed a platoon and only allowed Howard to face RHP’s, his wOBA would have placed him 6th among 1B’s. Further, Howard’s career wOBA is .410 vs. RHP’s, a number that was only exceeded by Chris Davis among 1B’s last year.

        Since Utley the 2B is more valuable than Utley the 1B, a Howard / Ruf platoon at 1B and Utley at 2B would have a very good chance of being more productive than Utley at 1B and Kinsler at 2B. Of course, all of this is based on the premise that Howard is healthy, but if he’s not healthy, the whole point is moot because the Phils would not be able to trade him to Texas for Kinsler if he’s injured.

      • George

        November 21, 2013 at 2:04 pm

        There’s absolutely no way the Phils could have traded Howard and $30M for Kinsler. He’s coming off of TWO seasons ruined by injuries, so there’s no way Texas or any other team would be stupid enough to take on such a risk by giving up a talented player in a premium position like Kinsler. Maybe Howard and 99% of his pay would get some dialog started, but not a mere $30M.

      • Lefty

        November 21, 2013 at 2:24 pm

        Both Kinsler and Fielder had what would be considered for them, “down years”. My first reaction was that Fielder would be aided significantly playing in Arlington, but the ESPN park factors shows that Comerica Park yielded more home runs last year than Arlington.

        As far as Howard, he’s ours- three more years, he’s ours. I advise all my friends to get over it, and hope he plays great, because he ain’t going nowhere.

        Good point about Howard George. And we’re talking about a player in Fielder that played the following game totals the last 5 years-
        Pretty amazing for a guy his size.

      • schmenkman

        November 21, 2013 at 2:41 pm

        Lefty, at least Kinsler’s “down year” was a slight improvement on his 2012 down year, so maybe he’s headed in the right direction.

        As for Arlington vs. Comerica, one-year anomalies can happen, and even including 2013, over the last 6 years Arlington is the 6th best HR park in MLB (Comerica 13th, CBP 10th).

        In terms of overall hitting, over the past 6 years Arlington is 2nd best in MLB (behind only Coors), Comerica 9th, CBP 13th.

      • Lefty

        November 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

        Agreed, Kinsler was down in 12, but 13 brought injuries. Prior to going down in May ( and much of June) he was hitting in the low .900 OPS range. I don’t think he was quite the same after that.

        To me, this is about a salary dump for Detroit. I don’t really get the move on Texas part, they could have taken that overflow of infielders and got a primo pitcher, I think. Mitch Moreland hit two less bombs than Fielder, 20 points lower slugging. I really think Fielder is in decline, the RBI’s are a product of the guys hitting in front of him.

        BTW- Not that you care, but I’d like to be wrong about that, as I have him in my keeper league, and I was seriously thinking about letting him go before this trade. Now that you point out the years of Arlington stats, I may have to reconsider.

  3. bacardipr

    November 21, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Might be a pipe dream but if Howard has a decent year maybe we can unload him….I wonder besides adding a SP if Rube is done with the signings?

  4. Lefty

    November 21, 2013 at 5:54 am

    It seems they always leave (at least) one spot on the 40 man open this time of year for a Rule 5 pick.

    • George

      November 21, 2013 at 9:27 am

      I’ve noticed that, too. But this year it may be for another free agent signing. They do still need rotation depth and a bullpen piece.

      No matter what, let’s just hope they don’t fill that last spot with a Michael Martinez clone.

      • Lefty

        November 21, 2013 at 2:13 pm

        You know I thought of that George, but I think I remembered reading somewhere that in order to draft a rule 5 player, you must have an open spot on the 40 man. (If someone knows better, feel free to correct me please )

        Whereas, I think if you sign a regular FA, you can just make a “corresponding” move to free the space. It does’t have to be left open so you can protect more players.

        Anyone know different?

      • Hogey's Role

        November 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm

        I think you’re correct lefty

      • George

        November 21, 2013 at 6:40 pm

        Yes, Lefty, a team does need to have an open roster spot to make a Rule 5 claim. That, however, doesn’t guarantee they’ll make one. To sign a free agent, they also have to have roster space.

        I was only speculating, and they very well could pick up a Rule 5 player.

    • Ryne Duren

      November 21, 2013 at 9:56 am

      Lefty I actually think your right! I think Ruben is hoping that somehow someway Mini mart can become a rule 5 through some kind of technicality so he can jump on it and claim he’s doing his diligence .

      • Lefty

        November 21, 2013 at 4:52 pm

        god help us.

  5. PhillyMike

    November 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Howard is simply cannot be traded. Fielder wasn’t coming off of 2 years of injuries. I am just hoping that Howard can give us 30/110 again. I know, wishful thinking but what choice do we have?

    I am also curious to know how Joseph looks in winter ball. Has anyone heard anything?

    • schmenkman

      November 21, 2013 at 7:46 pm

      I think there’s a good chance Howard will be healthy this year, and if so 30/110 would be within reach.

      On Joseph, he didn’t start playing until Nov. 9th, and has been in 5 games since then, all behind the plate (4 as starter, 1 off the bench). He’s only had 13 at bats and is 3 for 13 — stats for all Phils in off-season leagues can be found here:

  6. PhillyMike

    November 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Thank you!

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