Phillies Offseason Plans: Eric’s Version – Phillies Nation

Phillies Offseason Plans: Eric’s Version

It’s time to roll out the offseason plans, where a few members of the PN writing team build their ideal 2014 Phillies Roster, taking into account team needs as well as payroll and luxury tax ramifications. 

None of us put together solid offseason plans last year. Through a combination of the financial restraints the team faced, and several targeted players producing poorly, not one of our plans beat the Phillies’ plan. It went to show how tough it was for the Phillies to build a winner. I was financially conservative and my moves followed a pattern: cheap productivity.

The story is different this year. The Phillies are in a tough spot as a franchise. They have enough talent to succeed if everything breaks right, but very little has broken right over the last two seasons. There are several youngsters deserving of extended looks, regardless of team success, but there’s also a strong desire to win now. There are question marks at numerous spots. Injuries are always a concern these days. To avoid that dead zone of 77-84 wins, the Phils will need to spend some money this winter.

My plan involves five free-agent signings that could put the team in a better spot to succeed.

Move #1: Sign Ubaldo Jimenez (4 yrs, $50 million)
Let’s play everyone’s favorite game — Guess That Player! From 2011-13, here are three different pitching lines.

Player A: 95 GS, 547 IP … 8.5 K/9 … 4.1 BB/9 … 43.1% GB … 4.10 SIERA
Player B: 93 GS, 564 IP … 7.2 K/9 … 2.9 BB/9 … 47.4% GB … 3.94 SIERA
Player C: 91 GS, 546 IP … 8.3 K/9 … 3.5 BB/9 … 42.8% GB … 3.93 SIERA

All three pitchers have very similar lines. Player B is Edwin Jackson, who signed a four-year, $52 million contract with the Cubs last season based almost entirely on his age, durability and potential. Player C is Ryan Dempster, who signed a two-year, $26.5 million contract last season, despite being in his mid-30s. Both pitchers signed for an average annual value (AAV) of roughly $13 million. Jimenez falls somewhere in between.

Jimenez had a poor 2012 season but tallied 3.3 WAR in 2011 and 3.2 WAR last year. His 2013 campaign was very encouraging as he fixed issues with his mechanics and was a clear-cut ace from May 1-on. Seriously, he finished April with a 7.12 ERA, but from May 1 until his final start on September 29, he put up a 2.72 ERA and 2.6 K/BB over 160 innings. Contrary to popular belief, his success was for far more than just half of a season.

He has also proven himself a lock for 32 starts and 185+ innings. His numbers should improve even more moving back to the senior circuit. Matt Garza may be the prized starter of this year’s crop, but this is a wiser investment.

On top of his own production, Jimenez would help stabilize a potentially shaky rotation. What do you really have beyond Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels? Kyle Kendrick is a solid enough #4 or #5 starter but he’s currently the Phils #3 option. Color me skeptical that Miguel Gonzalez immediately cements himself as a sturdy #3 starter.

Then there’s Jon Pettibone, Adam Morgan et al — guys who could perform well but remain question marks at this juncture. The likely floor for Jimenez is 180 IP with a 4.30 ERA. But he has an All-Star ceiling and the savings from choosing him over Garza will help elsewhere.

Move #2: Sign Curtis Granderson (3 yrs, $42 million, 4th-yr option)
Simply put, I would rather go after Grandy coming off of a down year than the left-handed Choo and Ellsbury coming off of stellar campaigns. He’s not an elite defender but he has elite power for the position and can still steal 10-20 bags a season.

Granderson is a lefty, but over the last three years has a .243/.312/.528 line against lefties. His line against righties is an almost identical .245/.328/.500. The key when discussing whether a lineup is too left-handed is whether or not those players struggle against lefties. Granderson hasn’t recently. Chase Utley’s career splits are almost identical. Just standing on one side of the box doesn’t automatically mean a batter becomes Ryan Howard facing Javier Lopez. Adding a lefty who hits lefties is perfectly fine.

Domonic Brown can move back to his more natural right field and Ben Revere can better mask his poor reads in left field.

It’s hard to see Granderson signing for much more than this. He still carries risk, but projection systems view him as a .334 wOBA player with 25 HR and 11 SB. Those systems more heavily weight his recent injury-plagued campaign, and his productivity should improve if the health woes are behind him.

Move #3: Sign Joaquin Benoit (2 yrs, $16 million)
Move #4: Sign Edward Mujica (3 yrs, $15 million)
The Phillies’ bullpen has been a major problem area these last few seasons. They paid top dollar for pitchers who either got hurt, performed poorly, or were poorly used. It’s too early to know if Ryne Sandberg has the chops to effectively utilize a bullpen, but one workaround involves stocking the ‘pen with solid bets to perform.

Both Benoit and Mujica have been solid performers for years, and while there is no sure thing when discussing bullpens, these guys are as close as it gets.

Jim Salisbury of reported Monday night from the GM Meetings in Orlando that the Phils have internally discussed Benoit.

Mujica is essentially allergic to walks, with a career 1.4 BB/9, and he has increased his groundball rate to 48% over the last few seasons. His late-season struggles are of certain concern — they appeared to be a result of shoulder soreness.

Benoit is seven years older than Mujica but has quietly put together a terrific relief career. While relievers don’t typically generate gaudy WAR totals, Benoit has consistently put up around 1.5 WAR per season. He misses bats, limits walks and generates weak contact when batters do make contact. He would be signed for the role Mike Adams was supposed to occupy and could certainly close if Jonathan Papelbon needed a day off.

Move #5: Re-Sign Carlos Ruiz (2 yrs, $14 million)
I’m not particularly enamored with Jarrod Saltalamacchia, and while Dioner Navarro is an intriguing name, bringing Ruiz back just feels right. He is coveted by many teams but it’s hard to imagine the offers being that different. In 92 games last year he still tallied 1.5 WAR (about 2.5 WAR prorated over a typical Ruiz season) and his true talent offensive ability is likely more in line with his late-season surge than his early struggles.

Chooch at .270/.340/.380 to complement his defense and pitch-calling is perfectly viable and certainly worth $7 million per year. He can also help mentor a youngster like Cameron Rupp, as well as younger pitchers. The Phillies have said they won’t wait to hear back from him, because they don’t want to miss out on other options, but this feels like one of those situations where both sides will make it work.

Overall Roster
The end result leaves us at about $179 million. Adding in the allocable portion of league-wide benefits would put the Phils slightly over the luxury tax threshold of $189 million.

But who cares? I don’t consider it a big deal if the team has to pay a relatively small tax if it means putting a potential winner on the field. Bad past decisions shouldn’t hinder current or future ones. Teams who do let bad decisions haunt them remain mediocre.

My rotation is Lee, Hamels, Jimenez, Kendrick, Gonzalez.

The infield is Howard, Utley, Rollins and Asche, with Galvis as a backup.

My catchers are Ruiz, with Rupp as a backup.

The outfield consists of Granderson, Brown and Revere, with Ruf and Hernandez as backups.

The bullpen features Papelbon, Benoit, Mujica and Bastardo with the rest of the spots up for grabs among league minimum guys like De Fratus, Rosenberg, Pettibone, and Diekman.

Both Mayberry and Frandsen are non-tendered in this scenario. This is another situation where things must break right to succeed, but I would much rather take chances on guys like Jimenez and Granderson than break the bank for Garza and Ellsbury.



  1. Jael

    November 12, 2013 at 8:43 am

    I like to know how much is the ticket holder’s go for season tickets for 2014

  2. Chuck A.

    November 12, 2013 at 8:51 am

    I like this roster better than Ian’s. I’m not a big Salty fan either and I agree that Ellsbury is too expensive. Plus Granderson has much needed pop in his bat and certainly won’t embarrass himself in CF. I definitely like Ubaldo for the rotation but I’m a little worried about Mujica in the bullpen. Bullpens are hard to predict but that is one area where the Phillies MUST get better NOW.

  3. Cs

    November 12, 2013 at 9:10 am

    That is an interesting spend your way to success. Hope somebody looks at potential trade candidates this time.

    • Eric Seidman

      November 12, 2013 at 9:12 am

      Trade targets were identified last year as well. My plan from last year included a trade for Peter Bourjos. The Phils ended up trading for Revere, but it was the same type of idea: trade for a young, team-controlled CF with potential. This time around I think signings are the best bet, unless a deal can be worked out for Stanton.

      • Ryne Duren

        November 12, 2013 at 11:36 am

        Eric that’s a pretty solid plan as far as I can tell. However with that said. You posted at 8:00AM . Since then the Phillies have thrown a monkey wrench into the mix. They apparently are going to sign Marlon Byrd ! Unless they have other plans I don’t know. I think there might be a trade coming. I like Byrd but I also like Ruf too! Ruf will give the same type of offense, Byrd is probably much better in the field. My thoughts are why sign a what 36 year old to a 2 year contract? Until this week is over I don’t think any of us can foresee what the boob is going to do. Anyway I like your plan.

  4. George

    November 12, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Your comments about lineups being too lefthanded are absolutely correct. Where the batter stands means nothing if he produces against same-handed pitching. I’m not all that certain, though, that Granderson will be cheap enough; there are many teams looking for power and those type players will likely demand, and get, some big and questionable contracts in both years and money.

    I like that you have addressed the pitching staff, which Ian didn’t so much. Another starter is a definite need. I’m not sure they need two new bullpen pieces, though. I’d hate to see another “proven” arm not perform, which seems to be a major shortcoming of relievers. Diekman might prove better than a $12 M for 2 years veteran. As Chuck stated, “Bullpens are hard to predict…” and throwing money at set-up men certainly hasn’t worked well for the Phils.

  5. bacardipr

    November 12, 2013 at 9:37 am

    Eh not feeling Granderson low BA. We need production lol. Yes i realize theres more to it than just a BA.

  6. lefty

    November 12, 2013 at 9:43 am

    Eric, it seems to me that the use of a three year platoon split for Granderson doesn’t really tell the true story. His career numbers are worse, and in particular the slugging pct. Also, I think a three year sample would definitely have been affected by plating in YS3. His career line against lefthanded pitching is .226/.295/.409. IMO- those numbers are probably closer to what I would expect. I still think I’d prefer a trade for RH power instead of all that money for an aging CG. Having said that, I realize pulling off such a trade would be difficult at best.

  7. Hogey's Role

    November 12, 2013 at 9:53 am

    So papelbon Adams mujica and Benoit… You’re willing to pay 30 plus million for 4 bullpen guys, sounds a little steep to me

  8. Cory K

    November 12, 2013 at 10:38 am

    I definitely like your big ticket moves better than Ian’s. Getting Granderson and moving D. Brown to RF gives the option of using Ruf in LF where he is less of a liability. That outfield has the potential to really mash. The one disagreement is with the bullpen. I just don’t see them spending $13 million additional AAV there. I see them going for more middle of the road veterans like Joe Smith or Jose Veras, or cheaper bounceback candidates like Hanrahan or Madson.

  9. Bart Shart

    November 12, 2013 at 10:48 am

    I especially like the bullpen moves. We really need help there and I feel it is imperative that we sign Ruiz.

  10. Beyondinfinity

    November 12, 2013 at 11:21 am

    I still think the phils shouldnt spend a lot of money, trade away lee and rollins for young good prospects, and get someone like ozuna, cheap young and reasonable potential, and if you want to make a splash, use the prospects from lee and rollins + maybe brown or biddle for stanton

    • Hogey's Role

      November 12, 2013 at 11:45 am

      Nobody wants Rollins and they damn sure wouldn’t give up much to get him

      • Beyondinfinity

        November 12, 2013 at 1:44 pm

        But they would for lee and something is better then nnothing

      • Hogey's Role

        November 12, 2013 at 2:23 pm

        However trades for prospects rarely workout… Especially in the case of mr lee, nobody that has been traded for him is close to a star

  11. bacardipr

    November 12, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    Rollins like Howard is ours. He’ll block any trade and has publicly stated he would. Only way i see him anyone wanted him if some team gets desperate enough and needs a vet SS down the stretch. PS….Still dont like Granderson…

  12. Ken Bland

    November 12, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    You sort of have 2 ways you can go in searech of a starter if you go free agent. In the 30 or younger category, or maybe not far above 30, you can go 4 years and look at it as an investment..The older guys, Kuroda, Arroyo tytpes, maybe you can go 2 years on a win now primary focus.

    The Phils don’t have a ;ock young pitcher who appears destined for greatness, but the guys like Morgan, and Biddle aren’t turnoffs that you lose confidence in seeing them develop further.
    So I’m more inclined to lean toward an Arroyo, on a 2 year deal, and give the youngsters another year or two. If you take Ubaldo from a what have you done for me lately, he looks 4 year legit. But 4 years for his services overall still strikes me as too much commitment. I’d prefer Arroyo for 2, and see how Biddle and Morgan types mature, reserving flexibility for 2 years out.

    I feel like Ubaldo will get his 4 years (not ruling 3 out), so I’d kinda watch this one from afar. Certainly in a choice of Jimenez V Arroyo.

  13. Manny

    November 13, 2013 at 7:43 am

    I like this roster much more. Addresses our core weakness which is starting pitching.

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