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Phillies To Sign Marlon Byrd


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The Phillies will sign free agent outfielder and former Phillie Marlon Byrd, according to WIP. The deal is reportedly for two years and $16 million. The 36 year old Byrd was with the Phillies from 2002 to 2005, before a trade that sent him to the Washington Nationals for Endy Chavez.

Since then, he’s played for the Rangers, Cubs, Red Sox, Mets, and Pirates. He made the All-Star team in 2010 while playing for the Cubs. He made an important play in that game–the first that counted towards home field advantage in the World Series–throwing David Ortiz out at second in the ninth inning.

Byrd tested positive for PEDs in 2012 and was suspended for 50 games.

He is a career .280/.336/.425 hitter.

In 2013, he hit .291/.336/.511 after a dreadful 2012 season. He should be an upgrade over what John Mayberry Jr. gave the Phillies last year, but if this is a move that Ruben Amaro Jr. is putting a lot of stake in (like he did with the Youngs last year), I’m not so sure that it’s the right one. There’s plenty of offseason left, though, and a lot of guys still out there.



  1. Brian

    November 12, 2013 at 11:25 am

    I’m seeing that it’s a 2 year deal. If that’s true, holy shit Rube, bidding against yourself as always.

    • George

      November 12, 2013 at 11:48 am

      Biiding against himself? Don’t be an idiot. There were many other teams interested in Byrd, and two years is pretty much the free agent norm these days.

      • Brian

        November 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm

        There sure as shit weren’t too many teams looking to sign him to a 2/$18m contract. Obviously if there were, he wouldn’t have signed this early.

        Rube absolutely was bidding against himself.

      • Brian

        November 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm

        $16m not $18m

        Point still remains.

  2. Rob h

    November 12, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Can we relax with getting on Ruben for this . I’d have to think he wouldn’t have done this if he didn’t have other things planned out or he found out that Cruz wants 4/5 years at 15+.

    • Alex M.

      November 12, 2013 at 11:38 am

      Rob, I agree with you here. I think we still need to figure out how much the deal is for but if it is under $20M then I think Ruben did well here. Cruz is going to break the bank Yahoo’s Jeff Passan reported that Cruz was looking for 5yrs/$75M, while he said the price has since dropped a little bit he still is looking for years and big money. I would much rather have Byrd on a cheaper contract for less years than Cruz.

      • Carlos Danger

        November 12, 2013 at 11:47 am

        It should be under $5M for two years. If it’s anything close to $20M, RAJ should be fired on the spot.

      • Alex M.

        November 12, 2013 at 11:48 am

        Its a 2yr/$16M deal which is good value for Byrd this offseason. Smart signing by Ruben to not break the bank for a RF.

  3. CS

    November 12, 2013 at 11:44 am

    Amen. Byrd over Cruz or any of that group:

  4. George

    November 12, 2013 at 11:45 am

    Byrd is righthanded, which is something the Phils need. It’s only a two-year contract, which isn’t going to handicap the team in the future. He’s a better defensive player than Cruz or Beltran. I can’t see anything particularly wrong here, unless the deal was for billions of dollars.

  5. Dave P

    November 12, 2013 at 11:48 am

    If this is supposed to turn the Phillies into contenders….there are plenty of red flags, folks.

    Byrd had a near career high HR/FB% at 16.4%. UNSUSTAINABLE. It will drop down to 8-9% and his HR total will drop dramatically (think 11-12 HR, not 20+).

    He had a near career high BABIP of .353. UNSUSTAINABLE. It will likely drop down to .310ish and his batting average will drop significantly (.250s?).

    His strike out percantage has been on the RISE the past couple of seasons. He doesn’t walk enough for a guy who hit 24 HR.

    This likely pushes out JMJ and he looks to basically be an expensive old version of JMJ.

    Hooray for buying into career years! Thanks Amaro. 🙂

    • George

      November 12, 2013 at 11:55 am

      JMJ needs to be pushed out.

      And 2012 was an outlier for Byrd. He had so few at bats it wasn’t even close to a decent sample size. The rest of his career has been pretty consistent.

    • Alex M.

      November 12, 2013 at 11:59 am

      I see your points here however, he has been pretty consistent throughout his career (excluding 2012) and he can hit lefties really well. Would you have rather have the defenseless and injury prone Nelson Cruz for $15M+ a season for 4 or more years or have Marlon Byrd for $16M over 2 seasons?

    • Graham G

      November 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm

      I 100% agree Dave P. I would rather have Mike Morse who has been pretty consistent the past few years (not including last year’s injury stricken season). He would be cheaper especially after coming off a poor season and his bat projects well at our park. Morse is also 5 years younger. Byrd is not worth 8ml a year. We better see more bat signings!


      Hooray for buying into career years! Thanks Amaro. 🙂

    • wbramh

      November 12, 2013 at 1:52 pm

      I don’t care what anybody says, I trust Ruben to move the team from awful to barely adequate. He just needs a few years to ramp up.

      Marlon is now 36 years old?
      Is it possible Ruben doesn’t know the difference between saber metrics and saber tooth?

      Why didn’t Rube try to coax B.G. Smith out of retirement?
      Probably could have signed B.G. for $5 grand and a Sunday ticket plan for his great grandchildren.

      But seriously, the guy may have a very good glove but he’s 6″ tall and weighs in at 245 lbs. and at age 36 I doubt he’s a shorter Yasiel Puig. In fact, I believe he’s wider than Delmon. I hope there’s no weight-loss clause on top of the fat salary.

      For what it’s worth, while his BA is higher, Byrd’s career OBP is lower than Darin Ruf’s.
      (Darin who runs about 6’3″ 240 and 10 years younger)
      But I know less about sabermetrics than RAJ.

      • wbramh

        November 12, 2013 at 2:13 pm

        Disregarding my smart aleck comments above (or below or wherever they went) if Ruben landed 6 or 7 Marlon Byrd types in FA and on short-term deals who could at least marginally shore up the outfield, catcher and bullpen while producing measurably more RBIs than he will have done his job and kept the team competitive while allowing the farm system a few years to rebuild. Maybe he’d even spend the time reading Bill James’ book.

        I’m not convinced he’s thinking that way but I promise not to scream for another 24 hours.

        Minus a department dedicated to statistical analysis like the ones in place in Boston and St. Louis, I fear he’s once again entered the FA market too much in the dark.

  6. Hogey's Role

    November 12, 2013 at 11:48 am

    Haha really, can’t wait for him to regress to his 2012 season, outstanding job

  7. Bart Shart

    November 12, 2013 at 11:57 am

    Byrd, Byrd, Byrd is the word. Not a bad signing and could be an excellent on. We need to wait and see. It may also give us room to fill other key positions like starting pitcher,
    bullpen arms and bench bats.

    • c. schreiber

      November 13, 2013 at 12:35 am

      That dolt Rube, just “aced” Ruf out of a job for a 36 yr old and alose of $18 Mil?? What a f—-g dolt. He just signed his death sentence as the GM.. The sooner the better, get rid of this loser.

  8. Rob h

    November 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Worst case scenario he’s a very expensive lance nix best case his 2013 season middle case he’s good but not not great can be moved at the deadline.

  9. Carlos Danger

    November 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Another “back of the baseball card” player evaluation by RAJ. $16M for Byrd’s age 36 & 37 seasons?? Awful signing.

  10. Johanna

    November 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm

    I don’t love this signing. Out of all the guys out there he is the one I wanted least. What about getting younger? I can’t get excited about a 36 year old has been, sorry. I feel like this is one of the same mistakes that has been made in the past. I don’t know I guess with the heavy salaries we already have on the team we can’t expect much better though. Cruz – no way is he worth 5 years and 75 mil – so, good for Rube for staying away from that.

  11. Andrew from Waldorf

    November 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    Takes a lot to piss me off in mid November when I am trying to relax and not think about the abortion that is the Phillies.

    Sadly at this point Phillies management doesn’t care I guess. To keep Ruben around.

    He must be their favorite and they are stupid like he is and keep their favorites and cant part with them.

    Hey Rube. The guys been busted before. Hey he had a big burst all the sudden.
    Maybe he was on something?

    Maybe next year he will nto be because he will LOSE money if is.
    Ive seen this story before and know how it ends.

    It doesn’t end well. Now if only it ended with the stupid GM being fired.

    I will now share my facebook status to sum up.

    Hope everyone is having a good off season and enjoys the holidays.

    So Ruben Amaro Junior. AKA the moron. Signs Marlon Byrd for 2 years. A guy who was in the Mexican league toiling but somehow found lighting in a bottle last year for a few months. A guy already busted for juicing in the past. Guess what Ruben?????? He got paid the 37 year old fossil wont be juicing next year. You moron. The Phillies will never ever win again until hes gone and it will take 5-10 years to recover from the imbecile. I am once again speechless and resigned to the fact that the Phillies are hopeless and will suck next year worse than a Mets team not even trying and without Harvey. Feeing sickened.

    • wbramh

      November 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm

      You shouldn’t repress your feelings, Andrew.
      Let it out. It’s healthier.
      Tell us how you really feel about the Byrd signing and RAJ’s tenure as GM.

  12. Phillies fan from Germany

    November 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm

    I would be OK with that signing. At a rate of 5.5 MM$ per WAR Byrd would have to produce 1.45 WAR per year. If healthy he should be able to outperform that at least a little bit. If not healthy, well than it is not a contract that will handcuff the Phillies in the future. Definitely better than to sign top free agents for long term contracts whose contributions would come mainly in the first years of those contracts when the Phillies are not likely to contend anyway.

    In a best case scenario Byrd might help the Phillies to contend. If not the Phillies can sign someone else in two years when hopefully the roster looks better than now.

  13. Mike in NJ

    November 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Well, it’s not “pants on head” stupid, but close. 2 years/16M for a 35 year old outfielder coming off a career year one season after getting busted for juicing?

    Let me get this straight…our illustrious GM keeps inflicting scrubs like Michael Martinez on us, doesn’t think Darin Ruf is an everyday player (despite the fact he could EASILY produce 25+ HRs over a full season) for league minimum, but pays a 35 year old juicer 8M a year instead for the same numbers?

    Explain to me how Ruin Tomorrow JR still has a job.

  14. Andrew from Waldorf

    November 12, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Teams like the Red Sox sign guys like Shane Victorino and world series. Teams like the Phillies sign guys like Marlon Byrd and finish behind the Mets.

    The same Mets who unloaded Byrd last year in the middle of a career year and still finished ahead of the Phillies.

    At this point it is obvious that Ruben is not to his job to even a person who has no knowledge of the sport or understanding.

    Who is the person that is allowing Ruben to remain the GM and decision maker on this team?? I do not even know his name. But he is now the problem. That he allows Amaro to remain in his position as GM.

    The team appears to be actively sabotaging themselves.
    I can not explain it in any other way.

    Rubens boss needs to go or feel pressure for this.

    • wbramh

      November 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm

      I’m sorry but I promised I wouldn’t mention that I believed (back in April) there was a reasonable possibility the Mets would finish ahead of the Phils in the final standings.
      I’m sticking to my promise even though you’ve afforded me a golden opportunity to show how sadly correct I was.

      Here’s an interesting story the Washington Post ran on Byrd during the playoffs:

      “There have been a lot of bad days for Marlon Byrd. He has been suspended and exiled, shamed and suspected. Perhaps no single day surpassed the moment Byrd’s chronic misadventures and the duct-tape-and-baling-wire operational standards of the Nationals in their embryonic stage converged. Playing for Washington in 2005, while the team was on a road trip Byrd’s black Escalade was stolen out of the players’ parking lot at RFK Stadium.
      After 12 years in the majors and one partial season – at this time, just last year– toiling for Cuilacan in the Mexican Pacific League, Byrd savored a very good day. He played 1,250 big league games, 152 of them with the Nationals, before he stepped to the plate last night for his first postseason at-bat. Johnny Cueto hung him a slider. Byrd pulverized into the left field seats, and the sea of black-clad fans at PNC Park came unglued.
      Byrd provided the Pirates’ first run in their 6-2 wild-card victory over the Reds, which sent them to the National League Division Series to face the Cardinals. The story of the game, as captured so well by Barry Svrluga, was the jubilant, raucous and borderline deranged atmosphere in and around PNC Park.
      The story of the party – a ritual release of the frustration of 21 losing seasons – was simple. The story of the man who started the party is far more complex.
      Byrd, 36, debuted in the majors with the Phillies in 2002 at 24. Bryd at one point had been rated the 26th best prospect in baseball, but after three sluggish seasons the Phillies traded him to Nationals midway through 2005. Bryd struck around Washington for one and a half unremarkable seasons and then caught on with Texas.
      In 2010 he landed with the Cubs, and in 2011, at age 33, Byrd made his first All-Star Game. Rather than celebration, the feat was met with suspicion. For years, Byrd had unapologetically worked with trainer Victor Conte, the mastermind behind BALCO, and maintained his innocence.
      Everything after his all-star appearance became a nightmare. He tapered in the second half of 2011. He opened 2012 hitting 0.70 for the Cubs, who released. The Red Sox took a flier, and he whiffed his way through another month before they released him, too. Two weeks later, MLB suspended Byrd 50 games for testing positive for tamoxifen, a banned substance that increases testosterone produced and, as a side effect, causes breast-tissue growth.
      Byrd’s career had reached a dead end. He couldn’t hit. The taint of a PED suspension hovered over him. He was more punch line than ballplayer. He was done. And then he went to Mexico.
      Byrd signed with Cualican, hoping he could convince one desperate team to give him a shot in spring training. He found a perfectly desperate outfit in the Mets, who invited him to Port St. Lucie. He clobbered the ball in the Grapefruit League and made the team.
      Out of nowhere, Byrd had one of the best offensive seasons of any outfielder in the league, and once the Mets fell out of contention they traded him to Pittsburgh. He helped the Pirates escape the regular season for the first time since 1992, and then he sparked the greatest baseball victory in Pittsburgh since Game 7 of the 1979 World Series.
      Byrd is no easy, hackneyed rise-fall-redemption case. He still faces the specter his PED past and whether his remarkable comeback is clean. He has been remarkably open about it, even the breast-tissue part. None of it mattered last night as he crushed Cueto’s hanger into the seats. Nothing could keep Marlon Byrd from having a very good day.”

      • Andrew from Waldorf

        November 12, 2013 at 3:58 pm

        Yes but then the Mets proceeded to lose almost their entire starting staff and bull pen to injury. Then trade away all their major league talent at the trade deadline and STILL finish ahead of the Phillies.

        At this point any team may well finish ahead of the Phillies.

        The Mets are without Harvey and were ravished by the Madoff scandal and still beat the Phils.
        Id expect more of the same in the future.

        The Mets were not putting fourth a lot of effort to win in 2013.
        Still ahead of the 3rd highest pay roll in baseball.

        And here we are with Ruben Dumbass still having his job on 11/12/13

        BTW Amaro is way worse than Minaya at this point.
        Minaya was fired before he could do this much damage.

  15. Carlos Danger

    November 12, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    ESPN’s Free Agent Preview by Keith Law:

    Marlon Byrd – He plays an adequate corner outfield with above-average power, but I expect him to lose a good 30-40 points off his batting average and wouldn’t go beyond a year and $6 million to $7 million guaranteed, if that.

    • Double Trouble Del

      November 12, 2013 at 4:26 pm

      Problem number one-putting any stock in Keith Law’s drivel.

  16. Malo

    November 12, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    I am surprised by how many commenters and Philly fans think this is such an awful signing. As strictly a player signing, Ruben didn’t get handcuffed to a mega-deal, and those numbers are probably much closer to what Byrd was offered by other teams. Ruben certainly didn’t big against himself, that’s just ridiculous to say.

    No signing in baseball ever comes with guarantee of quality. Type-A free agents, blue chip prospects, waiver pick ups — obviously we all know there are risks involved, and with the Byrd signing, I think Ruben Amaro Jr. properly looked at this as a risk management situation.

    The MAJOR point everyone has to remember is that it’s not easy to find youth in free agency, especially for a veteran team. The second point is also noteworthy … we put money and faith into Ben Revere, and maybe he is better suited to play left field, but I think Byrd gives us a little more versatility out in the field — definitely more than Nelson Cruz. I only hope the trade rumors around David Price are not true.

  17. Cory K

    November 12, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Not sure why everyone is up in arms over this one. Despite what Law says this is pretty much market value for him (see MLB trade rumors free agent profile). Who are the alternatives? Cruz, Grandy, Beltran? They are also old and will cost more $$ and years and a draft pick. Morse is no option, that would be like signing Delmon again.

  18. Malo

    November 12, 2013 at 1:14 pm

    I just wish Ruben wasn’t as aggressive in free agency, but it’s always hard to bank on patience. The pieces you might want might not be there when you come to get them.

    I would say one more thing, I think that if this season isn’t better for Philadelphia, next year will be his last chance.

  19. Andrew from Waldorf

    November 12, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    In the vacuum of a team that Amaro hadn’t already destroyed it would not be a big deal.

    It just looks like more of the same.

    Been distressing to sit back and watch the guy destroy a franchise.

    Its done though so this is really not a big deal. Just more of the same.

    He can do whatever he wants the team wont win till hes gone. Long gone. Because this is damage that will take more than 5 years to fix.

    Happy off season to everyone and enjoy the holidays.

    See you next year when the Phillies will be in first place on opening day and we will have hope.

    • Brooks

      November 13, 2013 at 4:19 am

      Aging, convicted, recycled Phillie. Sounds about right.
      Who next? Barajas?

  20. Rob h

    November 12, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    With the exception of the Howard signing I don’t see how Ruben is ruining this team. I guess we should have let the 08 team die and not try and squeeze championships out of these guys. The prospects we’ve traded havnt turned into anything, not to mention he’s been slowly building a farm system over the past couple years. He not the best gm in baseball but he’s certainly not the worst I don’t get all te hate.

    • wbramh

      November 12, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      There is a school of thought that it’s best to trade away aging players a year too early than a year too late. That was a famous Branch Rickey comment.
      Certainly as 2008 turned into 2012 the prospects of another title were no longer there.

      So blowing up the team may have been the better answer two years ago. Going with youth and building the farm system would have been better than wasting last year on an endless line of wash-outs to help salvage some justification for the unfortunate and future-damaging salaries of Howard and Papelbon. In 20-20 hindsight, we can all agree that it didn’t work.

      Personally, I’d rather watch a hunger bunch of triple A kids end up in last place than a mish-mosh of has-beens and never-will-bes sleepwalk through an entire season.

      I don’t think Ruben is ruining this team and I’m sure he means well – not just to keep his job but to make the fans happy, too. That said, he’s not doing anyone any favors by ignoring modern analyses and not shaking up the very scouting crew he relies on so heavily. The GMs in St. Louis and Boston realized they needed to reach beyond their own expertise. However belatedly, Ruben needs to follow suit.

    • Matt

      November 12, 2013 at 4:25 pm

      Rebuilding the farm system,, now that’s funny. Signing guys in their late 20s and 30s isn’t going to rebuild the system. Bringing in skinny fast running guys with a .200 av isn’t going to relate into power hitting major leaguers. Have you guys looked at some of the guys on the Lakewood team? I have, I live 2 miles away and let me tell you it’s depressing. There is no power hitter down there all of them look like high school track team gangsters.
      The simple fact is the lack of prospects is all Rubens fault. Signing 30 year old guys with a steroid past isn’t going to cut it either.

  21. Eric D

    November 12, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Does everyone realize that Byrd immediately becomes the oldest regular position player on the team? He’ll be 38 at the end of the contract.

    Does everyone know he was making 700k last year and the year before was out of MOB altogether?

    Does everyone realize that he averages about a K per game? Should make opposing pitches very happy seeing Howard then Byrd.

    As far as power hitting RHB well he’s only hit more then 12HRs 2x. One of them being in his age 35 season. Power usually goes down with age.

    There are so many players how there that could give us the same production at far less then 16m over 2 yrs and that aren’t going into their 36yr old season. The ONLY way this isn’t a HORRIBLE move is if they plan on adding another bat in CF.

    • wbramh

      November 12, 2013 at 2:26 pm

      Relax Eric, I’m sure RAJ consulted first with his sabermetrics staff and…
      Never mind.

      Just pray – and don’t stop.

    • Phillips Fan from Germany

      November 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm

      I am curious, Name a few OF options that can be had for two years and 16 Million

      • Hogey's Role

        November 12, 2013 at 6:07 pm

        Mike morse
        Corey hart
        Chris young
        Just to name a few who would be far cheaper than 16 million…
        Personally I would have rather spent more money and gotten a better player, this is a bad sign in my opinion

      • Phillips Fan from Germany

        November 12, 2013 at 6:33 pm

        Chris Young, coming of a .5 WAR Season, estimated at 14 Million for Two years at fangraphs.

        Carey hart, Injured in 2013, 2.2 WAR in 2012 – i dont think he will Make less than Byrd.

        Morse, for Sure cheaper but Rallye Not the Same Player like Byrd, coming of -1.6 WAR in 2013

        I Would have been ok with a Young Or a hart signing as well but i dont See the Big difference vs. The Byrd signing.

      • Cory K

        November 12, 2013 at 10:25 pm

        Trying to put Morse or Hart in RF is like putting Delmon out there. Plus Hart has already said he’ll take a discount to go back to Milwaukee. Chris Young is a good defensive player, but can’t hit. Of course Byrd is not ideal, but nobody is. Even if he regresses, he still provides defensive value and a 2 WAR is not out of the question which is around what Beltran and Cruz were worth last year. Plus they retain their draft pick.

      • schmenkman

        November 12, 2013 at 10:28 pm

        Agreed, Byrd’s a pretty good signing. A lot of postseason to go of course, so we won’t know what it all means until at least January.

      • Hogey's Role

        November 12, 2013 at 10:39 pm

        Pipe dreaming?

      • schmenkman

        November 12, 2013 at 11:25 pm

        Pipe dreaming? Hardly.

    • glutenous

      November 12, 2013 at 11:19 pm

      They plan on adding Jose Bautista.

  22. Edgar

    November 12, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    Trade Kendrick for Trout and let’s win a world series!

  23. john

    November 12, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    He fits right in with Howard, Utley and Rollins. Why the crying?

  24. Matt

    November 12, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    Let me guess the next signing,,, mike pelfry or Maybe Johan Santana.

  25. Matt

    November 12, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    Let’s go find Bruce Ruffin. Oh wait maybe they can get Ricky Jordan back.

  26. Double Trouble Del

    November 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    There will be a dearth of RH bats this off-season. Cruz will probably require 3-4 years at significantly more salary per annum. The Byrd signing is not completely horrible if something huge is in the works.

  27. Ken Bland

    November 12, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    “In light of Marlon Byrd’s two-year, $16 million deal with the Phillies, one GM predicted that Beltran would receive a three-year, $42 million deal.”

    Um, yeah? But he was gonna get that anyway. You just don’t have considered to be financial juggernauts negotiating against one another where Beltran was gonna earn essentially the same per annum, albeit a lot more dollars via the length route. Byrd signing a more perceived value contract might connect to a Beltran effect of less dollars, although there’s no comparison between the 2’s skill set, but while 3 years sounds right for Carlos, by the time the negotiating’s done, we should see another 5 mil or so coming his way. Byrd, for his agency’s part probably strengthens the bid for the non top tier sorts. Ellsbury, Grandy, Carlos should go pretty unaffected by today’s Amaro sign.

    I think?

  28. Carlos Danger

    November 12, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Best line of the day regarding the Byrd signing comes from Keith Law:

    I’m starting to think that the Phillies bought a new potted plant for the office and named it “Our New Analytics Guy.”

    • Dave

      November 12, 2013 at 5:11 pm

      I’d expect nothing less from Keith Law. He hates the Phillies. Even when they were winning he had nothing but negative things to say about us.

      • Carlos Danger

        November 12, 2013 at 6:26 pm

        He doesn’t actually hate the Phillies. It’s just that from an advanced metrics perspective, hardly any of Amaro’s moves make sense.

      • Double Trouble Del

        November 12, 2013 at 9:41 pm

        Please elaborate on how Keith Law and advance metrics go hand in hand.

  29. HotelBar

    November 12, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Sorry to nitpick but the 2010 MLB All-Star game was not “the first that counted towards home field advantage in the World Series.” The winner of the all-star game has decided home field advantage in the World Series ever since 2003.

  30. bacardipr

    November 12, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    No new thinking by Rube. It seems he doesnt know how to evaluate young talent or is afraid to take chances. This is why he keeps going with the 35+ yo players.

  31. George

    November 12, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Please name the available young talent Amaro was supposed to evaluate this year. And while your at it, please name the playerss who he is supposed to take a chance on.

  32. Double Trouble Del

    November 12, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    I don’t believe the Phillies lost a draft pick with this signing for those of us whose overriding concern is with a youth movement/ farm replenishment/ prospect acquisition.

  33. Latrelle

    November 12, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    Mets is laughin at us spendin too much for a over da hill outfielder.

  34. glutenous

    November 12, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    Howard Eskin tweeted this at about 10:15 Tuesday night:

    “I’m told #phillies working on a major trade. Details tonight at 10:50 @FOX29philly news. Will tweet after news.”

    According to Eskin, it turns out the player that the Phillies are targeting is Jose Bautista. Domonic Brown reportedly would be one of the players involved in the trade.

  35. Jim Knoblock

    November 12, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    The lowly Mets would LOVE marlin back. Are u kidding me? Face it…The available players are thin. I’ll take Marlon and improve my less than average outfield while still leaving options to sign Chooch, get a starting hurler and acquire some vital bullpen arms.
    Church yo.

  36. DavidE

    November 12, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    I think Pittsburgh would have signed him but its not clear what he would get there. If he hits close to last year in one of the two years, it’s not a bad signing. It doesn’t seem that likely he will get an option year unless he has a stellar two years.

    I am not worried about his fly balls and home run stats. In Philadelphia, he should hit more runs than he did at Citi Field. It’s crazy but the Red Sox actually won with an old team. Napoli, VIctorino, Ortiz and Ross are all up there in years as is Lackey.

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