Phillies Sign Gaudin to Minor League Deal – Phillies Nation

Phillies Sign Gaudin to Minor League Deal Salisbury of CSN Philly reported today that the Phillies have signed right-handed pitcher Chad Gaudin to a minor league deal with an invitation to Spring Training. Gaudin, who turns 31 on March 24, pitched well in the swing man role for the Giants last season, posting a career-low 3.06 ERA and 1.247 WHIP. Gaudin will likely compete for a spot in the starting rotation and/or the bullpen.

Thoughts: Gaudin has had two of the best statistical seasons of his career in 2012 and 2013 but is seen by some as someone with a lot of baggage. In January 2013, Gaudin groped a woman in an emergency room while the woman was on a gurney, awaiting treatment about three miles from the Las Vegas strip. Gaudin, a resident of nearby Henderson, told police he did not know how he ended up in the emergency room.

With Gaudin comes talent but a very recent run-in with the law. Ordinarily, I would say this is a pretty decent signing by the Phillies. But then again, I have never before asked to review a signing of someone with a recent charge of “lewd conduct” on their record.



  1. joe fafara

    January 21, 2014 at 11:57 am

    You know, there are legitimate reasons why many people have been turned off by the Eagles organization over the past 10 years or so. Are the Phillies heading in that direction?

    To date, Rube has signed another PED abuser, and a guy that falsified his identity for 10 seasons. Now add a mediocre pitcher with issues. Be mindful that Gaudin had no idea why he was in the emergency room in the first place, according to the article.

  2. CBP

    January 21, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    Is this the beginning of the fan group “Gaudins Gurneys” at Citizens Bank Park?

    • Jay

      January 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm

      Lol I can see the signs now and I see the Phils are thinking of bringing Abreu back…that sounds so right on because he’s only 40…wow an AARP salesman would make a killing with the Phillies this year

      • schmenkman

        January 21, 2014 at 2:58 pm

        In other news, they’re STILL younger than in 2008.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        January 21, 2014 at 3:19 pm

        Is the average age of the current starting lineup younger than 2008?? That would seem to be impossible.

      • hk

        January 21, 2014 at 3:26 pm


        That’s misleading. Practically irrelevant, but misleading nonetheless. If everything goes according to the plan that the GM has set out for this season, the 2014 Phillies will be older than the 2008 Phillies. If the older starters are injured and replaced by younger ones like last year, the average age will be younger, but the team will most likely be worse.

      • schmenkman

        January 21, 2014 at 3:42 pm

        HK, I didn’t say they were better. Only that they’re younger. Not sure what part of that is misleading.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        January 21, 2014 at 4:15 pm

        The average age of the starting eight roughly looks to be about two years older than the 2008 team. Of course, the big problem is that five out of those eight are 34 years old or older.

      • schmenkman

        January 21, 2014 at 4:49 pm

        Scotty, you’re right about that. What we know from is that the average age of the 2013 position players was slightly lower than the 2008 position players when they’re weighted by playing time. And the 2013 pitchers were almost two years younger on average than the 2008 team, again weighted by playing time:

        pos. players… 30.1 in 2008, 30.0 in 2013
        pitchers……… 30.6 in 2008, 28.7 in 2013

        For 2014, the core is a year older, and Asche (23) and Byrd (36) replace MY (36) and DY (27) in the field, and Hernandez (33) and Gonzalez (28) replace Halladay (36) and Lannan (28). And Durbin (35) is gone.

        And we’ll see how much playing time Abreu gets, assuming he makes the team.

        I feel safe in predicting though that the 2014 overall average will again be lower the 2008 overall average.

      • hk

        January 21, 2014 at 7:35 pm

        The average age of the projected starting 8 this year is 2.25 > the average age of the 2008 starting 8. 5 of the 8 spots in 2014 project to be manned by older players in 2014 than those who played those same positions in 2008.

        In regards to pitching, the fact that a 45 year old started > 20% of the games and threw greater than 14% of the innings skews the averages. Even so, 2008’s rotation was Moyer 45 + Myers 27 + Hamels 24 + Kendrick 23 + Blanton / Eaton 28.5 (for a total of 147.5 or an average of 29.5 years) while 2014’s projected rotation is Lee 35 + Hernandez 33 + Hamels 30 + Kendrick 29 + MAG / Pettibone 24.5 (for a total of 151.5 or an average of 30.3 years). 3 of the 5 rotation spots in 2014 project to be manned by older players in 2014 than those who were in the 2008 rotation.

        Again, if things go according to RAJ’s plan, the 2014 team will be older than the 2008 team despite the huge outlier of the 2008 having a 45 year old on it. If the older players from the 2014 team suffer injuries and are replaced by younger players (as opposed to Abreu and Guadin), the 2014 team may end up being younger, but that will be a sign that the plan did not work.

      • schmenkman

        January 21, 2014 at 8:55 pm

        There’s also the bench and pen but nevertheless, points well taken.

      • hk

        January 22, 2014 at 7:12 am

        You are right that I ignored the bench and bullpen in large part because I don’t know exactly which 12 players will break camp with the big team nor do I know how many people with fill bench or bullpen roles. The plan for the bench seems to be Nieves 36 (older than Coste), Frandsen 31 (older than Dobbs), Mayberry 30 (younger than Jenkins), a utility IF who may or may not be younger than Bruntlett and a 5th OF who may or may not be older than Taguchi while the plan for top three relievers is Papelbon 33 (older than Lidge), Bastardo 28 (older than Madson and Adams 35 (older than Durbin, JC Ramero or Condrey).

        The point is that Amaro is building this year’s team and next year’s team to be filled with old players on the expectation (hope?) that they have some more production left in them. The bigger point, which is why I called the issue irrelevant, is that old teams can win as long as they are old and good (and healthy). Considering all of the options and the team’s situation heading into the off-season, I believe that the route that he’s chosen – try to add pieces on short-term deals that won’t negatively impact the team in 2016 and beyond – is the best route at this time.

  3. Lefty

    January 21, 2014 at 3:32 pm

    Abreu? Seriously?

    • Ryne Duren

      January 23, 2014 at 9:31 am

      Lefty I wonder what Jose Mesa is doing these days. Bullpen help? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  4. Joefa

    January 21, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Oh my gosh this team will be awful

  5. Jay

    January 21, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    Well at least I can bring out those Tshirts from years ago…man why are they acquiring an endless circle of former Phils?

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