Notes: Rollins, Lee, Giles – Phillies Nation

Notes: Rollins, Lee, Giles

-Soon, Jimmy Rollins will hold the Phillies all-time hits record. It should be within a day or two, barring a slump. With that, he’ll pass Mike Schmidt, the greatest Phillie of all-time, in a fairly important statistical category. And how does that make everyone feel?

I’ve gotten some interesting responses on twitter as to the feelings people will have and it seems mixed. It’s not like he’s shocking anyone by doing this, we’ve been tracking it for some time. Yet, some still play the hater role when it comes to Rollins. Will you be happy, sad, indifferent, when he breaks the record? Does it matter?

-Cliff Lee tossed again on Thursday and could throw again tomorrow. He told Jim Salisbury of that he felt good after 40-45 tosses on flat ground. Lee went on the DL on May 20 and picked up a ball for the first time on Tuesday. But it’s likely we won’t see him for at least the next three weeks. That gets us into July before he makes another major league start, and  you know what that does to a mans trade value.

-Ken Giles was about as nervous as any major leaguer I’ve ever seen after his first appearance. A few things: he seems like a shy kid, not that it mattes one way or another. But he doesn’t have the nutty closer in him, at least not yet. Giles also isn’t very big. Just looks like a normal dude who can somehow throw 100. He also seems to understand what it’s going to take. When asked about how important his slider is to becoming a full-time major leaguer, he agreed it was paramount. As you saw on the home run by Grandal, having a good fastball is not nearly enough. With a wipeout slider, as he called it, Giles becomes a force. But only if he can harness it.



  1. Lefty

    June 12, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    I am very happy for Jimmy. Records with one team are a difficult accomplishment these days. It will take many, many years for a player in their quest to break “Jimmy Rollins team record”

    Giles is going to be fun to watch. I love the term “wipeout slider” that’s so cool.

    Now to Cliff Lee- I take a very unpopular stand on him.

    I don’t think the organization should trade him unless it’s what he wants. He chose the Phillies over the other clubs and (reportedly) took a slight discount to do so. The club’s failure has not been his fault, and I think he deserves a choice to stay or go.

    • Hogey's Role

      June 12, 2014 at 8:15 pm

      I agree with everything you said lefty

    • wbramh

      June 12, 2014 at 8:59 pm

      The motion has been seconded.
      Go Jimmy! Great accomplishment.
      Stay Cliff, unless he wants anther shot at a championship.
      He’s been a great asset to this team and city.

    • schmenkman

      June 12, 2014 at 9:01 pm

      Also agree — thirded.

      • George

        June 12, 2014 at 9:44 pm


    • Scotty Ingerton

      June 13, 2014 at 11:41 am

      He can’t say it publicly, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Cliff Lee really does want to get out of here. We already know that Papelbon “didn’t come here for this” and I’m sure there are other players who’d like to end their careers with another shot at a ring. Also, trading a player is not assigning blame or saying that the current situation is “his fault”. It merely means that the player has enough value to bring back a worthwhile return (depending on how much salary the Phillies are willing to eat).

      • lefty

        June 13, 2014 at 7:04 pm

        And If you’re right and that’s what he wants, then so be it. I just believe he deserves the choice is all I’m saying.

  2. Ken Bland

    June 12, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    One thing about titling a column “Notes.” The assignment’s complete even if all notes aren’t included.

    Even the important one(s).

    Slipping by any and all headline writers across the baseball globe in the past hour is the news that the ever popular Mart that’s known as Mini is back in “The Show.” The ex-Phillie Mini was the most notable of the modern wave of ballplayers suspended for Performance Enhancing Detriments and will make his season debut as a Pirate shortly. It’s expected that Mini will challenge for the Pirate pre union record for highest dollar total for meal money received before his tenure is up. More importantly, it will be interesting to see how the GM power polls are affected, perhaps easing Ruin Tomorrow’s stranglehold on Dumbest GM ever with Neil Huntington’s transaction. Expected to go unaffected by the signing is the Steelers popularity along the banks of the Monongohelia. But, in sport, expectations are for losers.

    tag:: unbefreakinglievable

    • wbramh

      June 12, 2014 at 9:13 pm

      You can relax, Ken. Mini is only making a “guest appearance” in Pittsburgh due to an obviously desperate shortage of healthy infielders. He’s expected to be back stinking up Indianapolis in a few days.

      • George

        June 12, 2014 at 9:43 pm

        That sounds like the exact same reason Mini made so many appearances in Philadelphia. We all know that the Phils tried other greats instead: McDonald, Galvis (who might still have a chance is he figures out what a bat is used for and stops breaking bones) and heaven knows who else. I might add that last season, the Phils also had a shortage of outfielders, so Mini played ther, too.

        If anyone wants to call Amaro dumb, at least they should pick on the moves he really did miss on, such as the Youngs, the Howard contract, and the Pence trade. Some of the bozos he hired last season have actually been signed by other teams; Mini isn’t the only dud currently on an ML roster who made a brief appearance in red pinstripes last year.

  3. Jaron B

    June 12, 2014 at 9:59 pm

    I don’t like Rollins’ ego, especially this past off-season when he said he’s not leaving until breaking records. I would like to see him lead more in the clubhouse and on the field… perhaps another World Championship. But he certainly is bouncing back from the worst offensive season of his career (2013) and did lead the ’07-’11 teams to the postseason & two NL pennants. Therefore, I will congratulate him for the record once he gets it. I’d like to add that he could be a reserve in the ASG but b/c the team is doing so poorly, it may be that only Chase gets in (or Chase and Pap).

  4. PaMikeyDC

    June 12, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    As always, I agree w @Lefty.

    Who cares if Jimmy said he wants every single Phillies record. Good for him. I have spoke to him a few times. And yes he has that Philly swag in him/about him, but good- bc that same attitude helped us come back and beat the Mets.

    And I’m sorry I won’t let it go- but Cliff Lee- game 2 v. Cards, 4-0 lead. 🙁

    Anyways, thanks for starting this off right Lefty.

  5. PaMikeyDC

    June 12, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    Side note- Tyler Cloyd is stinking it up In AAA. Leads all SPs in HRs given up

  6. DavidE

    June 13, 2014 at 1:31 am

    There could be a few teams in the market for Rollins as a shortstop. I believe this is the last year of his contract. The Pirates are on the verge of contention. How many more runs would Rollins produce versus Jordy Mercer and Clint Barmes? Regardless of what he does, he is going to hit better than Barmes or Mercer. He could also help the Mariners. Possibly, he could help the Dodgers because both Ramirez and Uribe are having injury issues.

  7. bacardipr05

    June 13, 2014 at 4:45 am

    We appreciated that Lee choose to sign with us. Yes he could of easily went to the Yanks. I however feel that we should trade him I could be wrong but i see Roy H situation possibly with him. I believe that Lee wants to play for a contender. Iam thrilled that J-Roll will break the record.

    • Lefty

      June 13, 2014 at 7:19 am

      bacardi, your opinion on Lee is the popular one from everything I read, and it’s not wrong to fear a Halladay situation with an older pitcher.

  8. Chris

    June 13, 2014 at 8:11 am

    How exactly is Jimmy bouncing back? He actually has a lower average this year than he had last year! Oh that’s right, because he’s swinging for the fences again. Nothing wrong with a .248 average. Go Jimmy!

    • schmenkman

      June 13, 2014 at 8:24 am

      smh. He’s also 7th in the league in walks.

      But I couldn’t care less how he’s doing it, the end result is that he’s been the best overall shortstop in the NL who isn’t named Tulo. Instead of griping, you should be voting for him your 35 times maximum for the all-star team. He’ll never pass Tulowitzki but it would help get him selected as a reserve if he has more votes — he certainly deserves it.

      • Chuck A.

        June 13, 2014 at 10:37 am

        Chris is the kind of person that will probably boo when Jimmy breaks the club hit record.

    • Chris

      June 13, 2014 at 12:49 pm

      I’m not going to boo. It’s a nice achievement. You have to play everyday and stay healthy. But a guy who is batting .248 doesn’t deserve to go to the all star game unless your so blinded by your love for the guy that you can’t help yourself. If he is the second best performing shortstop in the NL this year, that shows how bad the shortstops are offensively. You guys probably have shrines to Rollins in your basement.

      • schmenkman

        June 13, 2014 at 1:07 pm

        Dude, you’re seriously going to base that on batting average alone? I’m sure you’re aware there’s more to playing baseball than batting average.

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