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Phils Drop Fifth Straight

The Phillies dropped their fifth straight game Wednesday night, losing 8-4 to the Nationals. A.J. Burnett struggled a ton, and the offense did not show much life. A long rain delay that split the seventh inning only made things worse. Here’s some notes from the game:

Bad Outing For Burnett

A.J. Burnett had a rough outing, allowing eight earned runs over six innings. He allowed ten hits, including four for extra bases. He walked four and struck out three. It was unquestionably his worst start of the year. For the Nationals, Stephen Strasburg threw seven innings while only allowing two earned runs.

Pinch Hitting Mayberry

After another pinch hit home run, John Mayberry Jr is now 7-12 as a pinch hitter this year, including two doubles, three home runs, and 11 RBI. His 11 pinch-hit RBIs are good for 7th on the team, with everyone ahead of him being an everyday player. Only Ben Revere and Carlos Ruiz are behind him among starters.

Losing Continues

The Phillies have now lost each of their last five games, and ten of their last fourteen. They are playing some bad baseball, too. The team meeting this week seems to have had little effect on the team. Jimmy Rollins struck out four times in one game for the first time in his career. This is also the fifth straight series loss against the Nationals.

The series finale with the Nats is set for tomorrow afternoon at 4:05 PM.



  1. Lefty

    June 5, 2014 at 6:38 am

    Someone remind me again why they canned Charlie Manuel?

    Oh wait, I remember now. The team was in a 4-19 slump after the all star break last season.

    At least he got them TO the All Star break over .500, without the benefit of Hernandez and Burnett and Byrd. Lord knows how. It seems they may have fired the wrong manager.

    • Hogey's Role

      June 5, 2014 at 7:14 am

      Yes because it’s the managers fault they suck??

      They sucked then and they suck now, no manager or coach will change that.

    • George

      June 5, 2014 at 2:02 pm

      I recall reading somewhere that Manuel was fired because the team wanted to go in a different direction. It’s too bad they never decided what that direction should be. They’ve added one aged outfielder, signed one Cuban pitcher with arm trouble and another guy with a hernia, and a third who was better under an assumed name, re-signed John Mayberry, and added one arm to the bullpen (who’s now at AAA). In other words, the same types of moves they’ve made since 2012. At least they’ve been lucky with Hollands so far, and Brignac hasn’t been completely useless, like the Nix brothers were.

      Manuel may have been lucky in getting dumped. Sandberg, whether he’s decent or not (and there’s a lot of debate on that) is faced with a team headed in the same direction it was last season: downward. It’s too bad for Ryne, because Manuel had a track record to be remembered by. Sandberg will probably lose his job before he can even get this roster full of has beens and ne’er-do-wells close enough to even sniff a .500 W-L record.

      • Ken Bland

        June 5, 2014 at 2:32 pm

        I’m glad Sandberg got a chance to manage. And sometimes, it’s hard not to take what’s in front of you. So not to say he shouldn’t have taken the job, but I wondered at the time if he should have held out for something better. It might be interesting to see what happens when they are in the market for a GM. This franchise has been so good ole boy traditionally, it’s not an open competition guarantee, but if they wanted the best candidate for a total rebuild job, while we might never know WHO turned it down, I wonder how many exemplary candidates would pass on the job because of the insurmountable task in today’s building challenged environment with the rubble that is. No names, just general thoughts.

      • "Big Ed" Delahanty

        June 5, 2014 at 4:27 pm

        Great post, George. You coul stick LaRussa, Connie Mack, Leyland, etc., here and it wouldn’t matter. This is a poorly assembled team.

  2. Carlos

    June 5, 2014 at 9:05 am

    They have “bad” baseball people making the decisions.Amaro is bad at his job and it doesn’t seem he gets much help from whoever else is helping him. I’m sure Amaro is not a dummy he just doesn’t do GM very well.I loved the Phils in the 60″s and I always will but I think I have seen the last world series for my favorite team. Unless “they” make some major moves to replace the decision makers.

  3. PaMikeyDC

    June 5, 2014 at 11:11 am

    I LOV the Phillies and I will still be there today.
    Section 122 in case anyone else is going.
    4pm start. Let’s go KK and the Phillies!!!

    No sweep. And let’s introduce Fister to Phillies baseball!!!

    • Lefty

      June 5, 2014 at 12:29 pm

      Great spirit Mikey! I wish I could join you, whew 122, nice seats.

  4. Bart Shart

    June 5, 2014 at 11:38 am

    Phillies stockholders want to make money. All their owners want a yearly return on investment. Yes, Amaro does stink, but so do the players in general, including the hitters and the pitchers.

    We have a few solid players, but they are aging. We don’t have enough of any one thing that makes a team a winner, including brains in the GM.

    Everyone who knows baseball knew the Phils were going to struggle this year. YES, they are still my favorite team, I’ve rooted for them for over 55 years, and they are NOT the worst Phillies team that I have rooter for. I hope they get good and compete again before I kick the bucket.

    • Lefty

      June 5, 2014 at 12:25 pm

      That would suit me fine too. One more good team or maybe even a championship, at some point before I’m gone.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        June 5, 2014 at 1:30 pm

        I already used that “just one more championship” card in 2008, so I have a feeling that two will be all I get to see.

        The new GM will need to rebuild from the ground up. This team could be a decade or more away from being good again. As David Murphy pointed out, we’re no longer in an era where spending money can correct past front office mistakes. Amaro has tried that, and he now has a team with a top three payroll that stands a real chance of losing 100 games on his hands. This team has serious talent evaluation problems from the scouting department right on up to the GM. This isn’t just a run of “bad luck”. It’s a systemic breakdown of the entire organization.

      • Lefty

        June 5, 2014 at 2:05 pm

        I agree with you and Murphy (if you’re not one and the same), but I’m personally hoping for another 25-30 years on this earth so there may be hope for me after all.

      • Lefty

        June 5, 2014 at 2:17 pm

        Of course since you were born in 1886, I’d also have to agree on your chances.

    • Ken Bland

      June 5, 2014 at 2:42 pm

      I think it’s a little cushy to say this isn’t the worst Phillies team those dating back many years have rooted for. I don’t think it’s likely it winds up being so, but TO THIS POINT, I’d still consider them a contender for that distinction, or at least to be on the discussion. I’m fully aware the Phils have had some just brutal ballclubs that will forever deserve that title, but the bad baseball the current club has played maybe just outside of fairly regularly shouldn’t be ignored as a possible pre-cursor to the time of year when losing clubs often get worse.

      To put a number on it, I’d say it’s about a 15% chance this winds up the worst Phillies team in the last 60 years. To this point, they don’t deserve elimination from the possibility.

      • wbramh

        June 5, 2014 at 3:44 pm

        Record wise they may end up being the worst Phillies team since 1972, but I don’t think you can look at won-lost records alone. On the field, the 1972 Phillies stunk but the organization was already starting to build a very good farm system.

        The 1961 team was even more atrocious (59-97) in Mauch’s first year as manager. but somehow managed to be fun to watch. That year included a 23-game losing streak. Art Mahaffey lost 19 games while also winning ROY honors and a trip to the All Star Game.
        Still one of my favorite teams, despite their dismal record. Sometimes it’s not whether you win or lose OR how you play the game. As bad as they were, I felt an attachment. I’m sure it helped that those were pre-free agency days when players towns were much more closely related.
        I just don’t feel much f a connection with this team beyond the familiar label.

      • Ken Bland

        June 5, 2014 at 4:44 pm

        On one level, you cannot possibly compare watching the futility of 1961 with this. And the reason has only so much to do with whatever ineptitudes either club played to.

        It’s a matter of point of life. For myself, the first baseball game I ever watched was the Maz 1960 game. So I was a sporadic fan in ’61, but at 9 years old, baseball, hell, LIFE was new to me. Now, 53 years later, after watching 1000s upon 1000s of games, having seen sooo much, not just with the Phils, but the game itself, the perspective is so much different.

        Let me put it this way. If I’m 9 years old now, watching this year’s team, my perspective is vastly different than it is as the person I am today with all sorts of different baseball, and life’s experiences behind me.

        Just like my appreciation of the bulk of 1964 can’t compare with the thrill of 1980. And besides that 64 made 80 that much more precious. Because of an additional period of frustration, compounded by playoff losses.

        But in black and white terms, Mahaffey, Callison, Taylor, there was youthful hope. Maybe that was an area that made connection possible. No matter how young watchers were.

  5. PaMikeyDC

    June 5, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    @Lefty, thanks. Next year it is.

  6. Mike in NJ

    June 5, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    Really no excuse to have one of the top payrolls in baseball and be this bad, and have no farm system. They need a total house cleaning, including Monty and Giles

    • George

      June 5, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      I have to agree. Ownership should have to take the biggest portion of the blame. They’re the ones who hired the experts to run things, and seem to be doing nothing about it. Amaro has to please THEM, so he can keep his job. He’s not working for the fans, the press, or the betterment of baseball. He’s working to pay his mortgage. Even if he wanted to can the scouts and development people, or trade “cornerstone” players, he still has to look over his shoulder at a group of secretive ownership morons who probably think an infield fly is something you spray with Raid.

  7. Ken Bland

    June 5, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Being as it’s so ridiculously easy to see the Phils and post season as unlikely for a few years, it got me to thinking today if anyone on the current roster would be in the next Phillie post season. Hamels at least comes to mind as possible, but not probable. Perhaps largely because of age, Brown, Asche and Hernandez would be possible. Obviously, you could easily counter those guys, and I guess it’s possible Dieman and Hollands are possible. DeFratus.

    I guess I covered everyone that’s young, even if that’s their best ally. But the real funny thing about it is that if you took a night in 1964, and imagined which of the 25 Phils would be with the club in their next post season appearance. You’d have started with the 3rd baseman, and ironically, you’d have been right. Not without a whole lotta travels inbetween, but he made it.

  8. Andrew from waldorf

    June 5, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    At least I have Fister today in fantasy.

    Figure at least a 5% chance of a no hitter. 75% chance for a shutout.

    I guess this will be the game day thread.

    Go Phils!

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