Gameday 82: Phillies at Pirates – Phillies Nation

Gameday 82: Phillies at Pirates

Philadelphia Phillies at Pittsburgh Pirates

Starting Pitchers:
PHI: Roberto Hernandez (3-7, 4.26)
PIT: Gerrit Cole (6-4, 4.02)

Time: 5:05, PNC Park
TV: Comcast Sportsnet
Weather: Clear, 74
Media: Twitter and Facebook

A Note for Tonight: Happy 4th of July!




  1. Josh hower

    July 4, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Hernandez is horrible. I’m sure there’s a triple A pitcher who can atleast throw strikes

  2. Mike in NJ

    July 4, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    How many more starts is Hernandez going to get?!? Another great Ruin signing. Dude has a career ERA near 5…why would anyone other than Ruin expect anything different?

  3. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 5:58 pm

    I tune over after the world cup and its 4-0 in the second.

    The Phils might not score 4 the rest of the month so Id say they are in trouble.

    This is a must win game too.

  4. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Victorino sucked.

    They used to do columns and all the dummies would chime in he is over rated.

    How has the outfield been since then?

    The team is a disgrace and how Amaro shows up for work every day is beyond me.

    • lefty

      July 4, 2014 at 6:04 pm

      So true.

    • wbramh

      July 5, 2014 at 7:49 am

      “…how Amaro shows up for work every day is beyond me. ”

      Tinted glass.
      I assume he puts on the hood after he parks.

  5. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    Send in the clowns, where are the clowns

    • c. schreiber

      July 4, 2014 at 10:42 pm

      In Phillies uniforms..

  6. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Here you go Lefty

    Whenever a ball is hit to the outfield by the other team mute your TV

    and play this.

  7. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    I have the Pirates feed today. I didn’t understand why Byrd stood at the plate on the strikeout that got past their catcher and didn’t run , he would have been safe at first, then Asche walked, could have been two men on with only one out.

  8. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Did our announcers explain it?

  9. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    I mean it’s unlike Byrd not to hustle, did he just zone out?

  10. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    Not really and its par for the course.

    Sandberg will nto be here when or if this team is ever good again.

    I don’t know that any one on the roster will be here.

    But you are stuck in neutral until Amaro is gone.

    I don’t want to call for people to not attend games.
    If you are taking kids to the game or something do it.

    But I don’t see how else fans can voice their disapproval besides just not putting money in their pocket.

    I really believe Amaros incompetence sets the tone for the entire orginazation.

    If he was fired tonight.

    I honestly think you would see a difference on the field tomorrow.

    that’s how poor he has done his job.

    Its amazing.

    A saboteur could not have done as much damage intentionally.

  11. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    I can’t prove it, but I think you’re wrong Andrew. I’ve changed my thinking over the years. I think he was just doing ownership’s bidding. I think he’s not the brightest mind in the business, but he is smart enough to know how to keep his job, whether he agreed with the direction they were taking or not. Sure he’ll eventually be fired, he’ll be the scapegoat. But until that time he’s earning more than he would flippin burgers. I’d do the same thing.
    I really think this is ownership’s mess. And you cant fire them.

  12. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    That would be a very sad thing.

    It puts you in the Dallas Cowboy and Washington Redskin land of hopelessness.

    I still say there is no salary cap.

    And you can out spend the other teams should be a factor.

    It is why the Yankees make the playoffs every year.

    The Phils would too with just a simpleton making decisions.

    But the decisions are sub simpleton.

    I cant take the bad fielding in the outfield.

    Mccutchen should get a cycle at least.

    meanwhile the Phillies have 1 hit in the 5th inning.

  13. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    The replay rule is a joke too.

  14. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 6:50 pm


  15. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    Your theory carries water because you really cant explain how Amaro is still in his job.

    Gotta love the commercials

    make your memories!!!!!!!

  16. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    It’s more about what the quotes I read from David Montgomery. He truly believs his 08 core can keep butts in the seats, but that doesn’t prove anything about Amaro’s culpability. I just think it’s possible because otherwise why wasn’t he relieved of his duties?

  17. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Cr-p, Brandon Moss just turned an ankle. He’s been one of my best this season.

  18. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Pecking away. Double play but will take the run. What happened to Gerrit Cole? He was pitching a one hitter and they pulled him?

  19. Occam

    July 4, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    I am not that smart.
    I want to know if a smarter person can explain how RAJ is STILL the GM of this organization, with a bloated payroll, aging stars without replacements ready, and a team overly reliant on superior starting pitching which has been hit-and-miss this season.

    I am smart enough to know that players play and managers manage, but the team has gone down hill since RAJ took over.
    I thought maybe it was just that RAJ knows little about overseeing scouting, drafting, and making good trades, but then I figured it is because i am not that smart.

    Please, wise men and women of Phillies Nation, explain to me why RAJ still has a job with this organization and when the team can focus on rebuilding for the long-run.

    • lefty

      July 4, 2014 at 7:25 pm

      Occam I am not wise enough to answer you question, I’m not sure anyone is.

  20. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    And no answer on my earlier inquiry on why Byrd didn’t run out strike three? Is no one else watching this game?

  21. lefty

    July 4, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    And how come there was no answer on my earlier inquiry on why Byrd didn’t run out strike three? Is no one else watching this game?

  22. Andrew from waldorf

    July 4, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    2 runs.

    As boy George used to sing

    Its a miracle

  23. Scotty Ingerton

    July 4, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    This Marte, McCutchen, Polanco outfield is one of my favorites. So much talent.

  24. Ken Bland

    July 4, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    On this date in 1964, the Phillies won in 11 (Bunning pitched 10) over the Giants.

    The Giants started an OF that night of McCovey in left, Mays in center, and Duke Snider in right field.

    Had that trio started in the Phils outfield tonight……

    We’re talkin’ Willlllie, NcCovey and The Duke. Say hey, say hey, say hey.

    Hell, had the Phils played their starting OF from that night, Callison, Gonzalez and Covington in tonight’s quest to be 20 under by the break…..

    • schmenkman

      July 5, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      The Duke hit .210, with a .625 OPS and awful fielding. Sounds about right for the ’14 Phils.

  25. bacardipr05

    July 4, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    I was just giving Fausto a little praise earlier just a little and of course he throws a stinker.

  26. Scotty Ingerton

    July 4, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Look on the bright side – at least they had a one game winning streak.

    • Lefty

      July 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      That’s how it’s done. I believe they will be a force to be reckoned with for 5 or 6 years.

  27. Ken Bland

    July 5, 2014 at 9:24 am

    There actually are trades that a label of great can justifiably be applied to as soon as the paperwork’s complete.

    This, being called a “great trade” by the Cubs is way, way premature in any circumstance.

    Great stands a decent chance of applying to Oakland. But even that is just a probability.

    From the Cubs standpoint, in going off reading material, which is my limitation of following many teams, the Chitown club has accumulated a wealth of offensive talent, duplicated and triplicated at the 6 hole. And their organizational pitching depth took a blow here. They have to balance out their talent by the time this rumored Cubs-Stros Fall Classic rolls around in 2017 before we see how balanced their assets are. And if any one component of the game separates as a leading factor, it was, is, and sho nuff always will be starting pitching. IF these assets are wisely traded, and the Cubs escape their long time schneid, only then can it be fairly stated that the greatness started with this accumulation of talent during the Theo era.

    The A’s meanwhile, have replaced injury plagued starter depth and certainly made the price of
    acquiring starting pitching even more expensive. It looks like it has the favored potential to be a help to both clubs. But it favors Oakland in the short term assuming Samardja and Hammel pitch close to 1st half levels in the stronger league.

    No matter what the Cubs do, they will always have the Cardinals in their division which makes favorable playoff positioning that much more challenging. And the Cubs have at least had a share of tease positions over the last 60 years. Those shouldn’t be considered good enough anymore. So they really HAVE to parlay this overstocked depth with moves that work out. Until then, “great” is nowhere near applicable.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 5, 2014 at 5:51 pm

      They used a guy that they weren’t going to have next year and a guy that they weren’t going to have in 2016 and turned them into valuable long term assets. They took about 15 starts from Hammel and maybe 50 starts from Samardzija and ended up with one of the top five prospects in the entire sport (Russell) plus another number one pick (McKinney) who projects to be a starting player in the future. I call that a great trade.

      It’s great for Oakland as well, but they are two teams with opposite objectives. Oakland is looking at this season and next season, and the Cubs are looking well beyond that. If Russell turns out to be as good as the scouts believe he will, Samardzija & Hammel will be long gone from Oakland at the time he’s a perennial All Star.

  28. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Gameday 83:
    Bottom of the first, I just tuned in and already they’ve given up 2 runs. This team is tragic.

    • Lefty

      July 5, 2014 at 4:33 pm

      PN Math?

      • Tracey

        July 5, 2014 at 4:38 pm

        It maybe game 87, but PN gameday numbering is only up to 83. Even PN doesn’t care enough about the Phils to number all of their games.

  29. Lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Gameday number 87 Phillies at Pirates

  30. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 4:36 pm

    It’s depressing. I find myself not so much hoping the Phils will win, but just hoping they don’t get shut out.

    • Lefty

      July 5, 2014 at 4:45 pm

      I watch a young exciting club like the Pirates and think they are and will be exciting to watch for several years.

  31. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 4:44 pm

    I feel bad for rookies like Buchanan. Will his confidence and his career ever come back from this suckfest that we call Phillies 2014?

    • Lefty

      July 5, 2014 at 4:46 pm

      Yeah me too.

  32. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    I find myself breathing a sigh of relief that Howard turned a walk.

  33. Lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:08 pm


  34. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    (sigh) Are they going for a record in leave ’em loaded?

  35. Lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    I’m a diehard, but this is just tough to watch right now

  36. c. schreiber

    July 5, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    Sad, sad, sad offense.

    • Tracey

      July 5, 2014 at 5:15 pm

      Sad offense, sad defense, just sad all around. Every so often, they pleasantly surprise me, but not very often.

  37. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:18 pm


  38. Lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Looks like a homer to me.

  39. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    It’s above the bar when it bounces off, and nobody touched it before that.

  40. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:21 pm

    WHEW! Still a HR.

  41. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    (sigh) how many times does Dom Brown have to freeze in the outfield?

  42. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    He can’t see the ones coming straight at him. I used to have that problem too, but then, no one was paying me a major league minimum salary.

    • Tracey

      July 5, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      ^ LIKE

    • wbramh

      July 5, 2014 at 11:02 pm

      As soon as a ball is hit between the left field line and center field, our left fielder freezes in place while our center fielder starts running towards Peoria by way of the Seychelles.
      I miss Whitey, dearly but I’m glad he didn’t have to witness this.
      In the meantime, some 79-year-old guy in right is the best position player on the team.

  43. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    He totally missed the bag, and he knows it, but he was so far ahead of Jimmy that they’re not going to reverse it.

  44. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Good challenge, they have a chance. .

  45. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    There is no way he makes a second swipe at it if he touched the bag the first time right? Oh well.

  46. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Pittsburgh is smart to bat their outfielders 1,2,3 . It’s an excellent top of the order.

  47. bacardipr05

    July 5, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    The Pirates pitcher has struggled and still they cant mount nothing. I like how Buchannan went hard after Polanco right there.

  48. bacardipr05

    July 5, 2014 at 5:56 pm

    Byrd isnt even trying..when Howard ever learn to lay off that pitch…100 years from now

  49. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    McCutchen gets great reads on balls. He’s just a truly great all around player.

  50. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    I think Buchanan has a decent chance at a major league career. He lets up some hard hit balls but has a lot of poise. Hope I didn’t jinx him..

  51. bacardipr05

    July 5, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    The Phils lineup is such a non threat they just leaave the pitcher in there any ways..

  52. bacardipr05

    July 5, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Im not sure he will stick Lefty. His minor league career doesnt indicate he will even as a fifth starter. Hes been holding his own though for now. I have him pegged as filler journey man type with a outside chance of been a 5th stater.

    • lefty

      July 5, 2014 at 6:26 pm

      How about as a pretty reliable long man/spot starter?

  53. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    It’s bad when they don’t hit or pitch well, but I have a very low tolerance for what happened with Asche and Rupp.

    • Tracey

      July 5, 2014 at 6:44 pm

      OH BABY!!!

      We’re not dead yet!

    • Tracey

      July 5, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      (scratching head) What happened with Asche and Rupp?

  54. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    My guys used to run their asses off when they gave away outs. I guess you can’t do that to pros.

  55. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    You can see on Bowa’s face, he doesn’t expect Hernandez to do anything.

  56. lefty

    July 5, 2014 at 6:48 pm


  57. Tracey

    July 5, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    … and he’s right.

    Are the Phils 1-9 now? Or still 2-8? They are teh suck either way.

  58. "Big Ed" Delahanty

    July 5, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    Honestly, if it wasn’t for watching the World Cup intermittently between this game, I could not have made it through nine innings. RAJ and the Front Office have dismantled a winning team beyond repair. This is an excruciatingly painful season.

  59. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    Gameday 84

    Even Phillies Nation isn’t interested in watching the Phillies any more. And really, who can blame them?

  60. wbramh

    July 6, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I have the sense that it took a team effort from the organization’s management to put the club in its current predicament. And maybe less a dismantling (although that’s been part of it) than a total lack of ability to rebuild as their top players passed their prime. The dismantling part was largely a natural process but it’s been the failure not just of Ruben but the entire network of scouts, coaches, managers and executives to establish a smart enough organization to recognize talent and properly prepare what talent they have for the big leagues.

    • lefty

      July 6, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      I think that’s all true, but someone has to be held accountable and responsible. Someone hires and fires the people that don’t get the job done. Fairly or unfairly, that someone has to has to take the blame.

  61. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Ugly with a capital UGH.

  62. Scotty Ingerton

    July 6, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    They’re definitely tough to watch. This will probably be one of Burnett’s last games with the Phillies. The rumors have the Pirates and Orioles interested in him. Byrd is likely to go within the next few weeks as well.

    • lefty

      July 6, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      The fact that two of the players other teams might be most interested in, were just acquired this season- speaks volumes to me.

      • Tracey

        July 6, 2014 at 2:21 pm

        It means we are capable of acquiring players with value. And then we trade them away. They were talking in the pre-game show about how Marlon Byrd “deserves” to be traded. That’s embarrassing.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 6, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      Tracey – It’s more of a matter of short term assets vs. long term assets. Burnett and Byrd are much more valuable to a team contending now than to a team that won’t be contending for another four or five seasons.

      • Tracey

        July 6, 2014 at 2:57 pm

        I get that, but for several years now they’ve done a good job of identifying older players that other teams wouldn’t bother to invest in. But they don’t seem to be able to apply that to talent they can hold on to.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        July 6, 2014 at 3:15 pm

        The flip side of that is that maybe a team in need of a rebuild should not be targeting older players at the end of their careers. There was some wishful thinking on the part of Amaro as far as this team being a contender in 2014.

  63. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 2:23 pm


  64. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    oh gawd… I was waiting for them to run into each other…

  65. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Phils bring it up to 3-2. Do I dare get my hopes up?

    • lefty

      July 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm

      I wouldn’t

      • Tracey

        July 6, 2014 at 3:45 pm

        That 8th inning was pretty hope-dashing.

  66. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Jamie Moyer sounds PISSED at how stupidly the Phils are playing

    • lefty

      July 6, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Good, I wish I had the home feed today.

  67. Andrew from waldorf

    July 6, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    Is Ben revere blind?

    Or just clueless.

    this team is a disgrace.

  68. Andrew from waldorf

    July 6, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    What kind of a player jumps not even near the ball?

    Is there a medical condition????

  69. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    No question, the fan interfered with the ball, but we’ll give it to the Pirates because the Phils would have blown it anyway.

  70. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    Oh gawd… I had a bad feeling when they IBB’d that first guy that a grand slam was coming…

  71. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 4:08 pm

    And here we go again … bottom of the 8th, starts out 1 run behind, but let’s make really, REALLY sure that we can’t come back in the 9th.

    Of course, they will go down 1–3 in the 9th.

  72. lefty

    July 6, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    It doesn’t matter that the fan touched it. He was nowhere near catching that ball. But Andrew, the fan made Revere look bad IMO, he would have been closer to it if it’s not deflected. More important to me is that Defratus served up such a meaty pitch to one of the greatest players in the game in that situation. And then the wheels come flying off. And now we get to be embarrassed by mini mart. Shheeeeesh.

  73. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 4:14 pm

    I wonder if we are leading the league in unearned runs?

    • schmenkman

      July 6, 2014 at 5:28 pm

      @Tracey, the Phillies are 2nd in the NL in unearned runs allowed. But it’s not because they’ve made a lot of errors. They actually have the 3rd fewest errors in the NL (and correspondingly the 3rd best fielding percentage). That’s not to say they’re a good fielding team — they’re one of the worst fielding teams in the NL by most reputable measures.

      What the Phillies do lead the league in is the average unearned runs allowed per error. So while they have relatively few errors, they’ve “made the most of them”.

  74. lefty

    July 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Serve up a meatball the greatest player in the National league and walk that feared hitter mini mart. Hell of a strategy there, lucky Polanco didn’t make them paym

  75. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Wow! Not 1-2-3!

    I have to take the small victories

  76. lefty

    July 6, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    That’s good hustle Ben. Keep it going guys, fight like your jobs are on the line, like normal people making one fiftieth of your salary have to.

  77. Tracey

    July 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Pardon me, I need to go vomit.

  78. lefty

    July 6, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    Im just frustrated and disgusted. No more comments like the last one. I apoligize. This young Pirates team is so impressive, so full of promise.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 6, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      Marte & Polanco were both amateur free agents out of the Dominican Republic…they didn’t even cost the Pirates a draft pick! This could end up being the best OF of the next five or six years. I still like the Marlins’ OF a lot though.

  79. Scotty Ingerton

    July 6, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    It’s all about asset management today – it has nothing to do with outspending other teams. That’s why it’s so scary that Amaro still has his job.

  80. lefty

    July 6, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Epstein is a very sharp guy, as is Neil Huntington. These are two former doormats that look to become dominant contenders for years to come. My response to he Amaro comment is that he’s no dummy. They don’t just give away diplomas at Stanford. I really wonder how handcuffed he has been by ownership in the philosophy and direction of the tean

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm

      Amaro has made his “back of the baseball card” statement enough for me to believe that he doesn’t have a grasp on projecting the natural arc of a player’s career though. I’m not buying that he’s simply a puppet of the ownership.

      • Lefty

        July 6, 2014 at 5:39 pm

        And I’m not trying to shower him with support either, I have publicly been very critical of him over the years.

        I just don’t understand how a Stanford graduate , wouldn’t be able to grasp how backward this approach to running a franchise has been. It just makes no sense.

        I really just wonder if he is just a guy making a huge paycheck.. by doing his owner’s bidding. It makes no sense that a guy smart enough to earn a diploma from a top ten university, and a former ballplayer, from a ball player family- would knowingly run a club into the ground.

  81. wbramh

    July 6, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    What I found most interesting was Ruben Amaro’s public insistence during winter meetings that the team would contend this year. Staring down at his imagined chips at the time, I was convinced his pronouncement was no more than a poor pitchman’s bluff; that he was saying what he believed fans wanted to hear rather than the truth and that a shakeup would occur, if only in the organizational structure. Do to salary issues, vesting, injuries and poor on-field performances (or lack of consistency) it was not going to be easy to move anyone.

    Initially, Ruben’s acquisition of Byrd and Burnett was puzzling. Either he saw their additions as a short-term way to maintain a minimum of competitive mediocrity while the organization was being rebuilt or (as claimed) he actually believed those additions would reenforce a playoff caliber team. The answer could be found in the total lack of shake-up among in R&D – No SABR department, no next to no turnover in developmental personnel, including managers, coaches, scouts, etc.

    If a metaphor for this season emerges, it should be the wasted dollars and hopes spent on Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez. It could have been much worse since only #12 million was flushed down the toilet in place of the $48 million they were prepared to spend. Still, you have to wonder how many top-flight scouts and coaches they could have lured with even $12 million.

    As I write, I’m watching a Summer League game between the young Sixers hopefuls and their counterparts on OKC. The Sixers are athletic, play hard and are surprisingly fun to watch -even with Nerlens Noel given the day off – and even though they’re a couple of years from being truly competitive, I’d sooner buy a ticket to watch a team with heart, purpose and potential than an endless mix of has-beens and scrubs. Perhaps the Phillies would better serve themselves and their fans if they took lessons from the team on the opposite side of Pattison Avenue.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 6, 2014 at 7:22 pm

      The good news is that Byrd and Burnett have played well enough to have trade value. So there’s that.

      I agree that it appears that the organization needs a fresh approach to scouting and player development (and just player evaluation in general). I don’t know where they (as an organization) stood on guys like Yoenis Cespedes, Yasiel Puig, Jorge Soler, and Jose Abreu, but it never seemed like they were actively in the mix for any of them. With all the money that they’ve thrown away on bad contracts, it seems like they could have rolled the dice on someone besides Gonzalez.

  82. wbramh

    July 6, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    Sorry – the end of paragraph #2 should have read, “The answer could be found in the total lack of shake-up off the field. No SABR department created and barely any turnover in player development personnel, including managers, coaches, scouts, etc.”

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