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Phillies Drop Finale 6-2, Swept by Pirates

The Phillies managed to scrape together just four hits against lefty Jeff Locke, losing 6-2 to the Pirates who completed their sweep of the Phillies.

Losing Ways Continue

The Phillies have now lost 9 of 10 and are 3-12 since winning five in a row. The Phillies have dropped to an NL-worst 14 games under .500, sit just one game ahead of the Arizona Diamondbacks to remain above the last place spot in the National League, and are 12 games out of first place.

A lot of the blame must be placed on the offense. After seven solid innings from A.J. Burnett, striking out seven, allowing just three earned, the Phillies could not find any punch at the plate. The Phillies scored early when Marlon Byrd plated Jimmy Rollins via a single. Rollins had reached base due to a throwing error by Pedro Alvarez. The Pirates would fight back and score two of their own in the bottom half of the first. The Pirates would tack on a third run in the third on a Neil Walker sacrifice fly. Byrd would tighten the game in the seventh with a solo homer, his 18th of the year, before the Pirates would add three insurance runs in the eighth following a Cody Asche error at third.

With very few tradeable assets, Byrd has rapidly increased his trade value over the last few games, seemingly the only bat that has been alive. Chase Utley and Ryan Howard received the day off for today’s game. All-Star selections will be announced this evening and it is likely Utley will be announced as a starter in a rare bit of good news for the Phillies.



  1. Hogey's Role

    July 6, 2014 at 4:53 pm

    100 losses here we come!!!!

  2. Bob in Bucks

    July 6, 2014 at 4:56 pm

    Was in Pittsburgh for all 3 debacles. I can find nothing other than the bullpen which is positive. Trade Byrd for prospects. Eat most of Papelbon’s contract for prospects. We have to get worse before we get better.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 6, 2014 at 6:44 pm

      That goes against Montgomery’s plan – “staying “decent” while getting better”. (I think it should be mandatory to play a laugh track whenever he says that.)

      • c. schreiber

        July 7, 2014 at 1:02 am

        “Staying decent”??????????

      • loupossehl

        July 7, 2014 at 8:28 pm

        Definition, from Possehl’s Sports Lexicon:

        De-cent (adj.) 1. Adequate, passable, tolerable. In case of Phillies and current regime, no more than 200 losses in any one season. 2. Properly dressed. See “cooked goose.”

  3. Andrew from waldorf

    July 6, 2014 at 5:05 pm

    It gets worse than this?

    I don’t think its possible to get a this many over paid stiffs.

    This is top 3 pay roll.

  4. Scotty Ingerton

    July 6, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    I think we can seriously take a run at Houston for the worst record in baseball. There’s a lot of season left.

  5. Bart Shart

    July 6, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Ruben Amaro should resign as soon as possible. He is a disaster who has single-handedly ruined this team. A disgrace. Put simply, fans should simply stop going to Phillies’games

  6. bacardipr05

    July 6, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    This just bad but not bad painful. Its a painful that the greatest run and dominance by a Phillies team is going down this way. Start to trade whomever you can right now. Sell on Byrd while he is still swinging a decent bat.

  7. Scotty Ingerton

    July 6, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    Houston 36-54 (.400)
    Arizona 37-53 (.411)
    Phillies 37-51 (.420)
    Colorado 37-51 (.420)

    I could see Texas getting into the mix as well, but the Phils have a legitimate shot at the number one pick next season.

    • Hogey's Role

      July 6, 2014 at 7:14 pm

      Hopefully…., if we’re gonna suck let’s do it right

    • Chuck A.

      July 6, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      Two years ago I believe the Phillies were 37-51 at the AS Break, unloaded Pence and Victorino, and managed to make it interesting down the stretch before fading in Houston and finishing 81-81. Sad to say, but that ain’t happenin’ this year.

  8. Ken Bland

    July 6, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    The old adage, “I’ve never seen anything like it” wore it’s wear somewhere in the rear view mirror by now. Oh, something new is always scopable if you look hard enough, but at the start of this 28 game stretch, it was guessed the Phils would go 8-20 at best, and drop to 20 games below sea level by the break.

    They won the first 5. Now, 21 games in, they might not do it, but they are SO positioned TO do it, it’s hysterical. 7 games against the Crew and Nats. Could the Phils celebrate the 7th anniversary of their 10,000th loss on All-Star Night closing in on 20,000 losses?

    The important thing to remember is not losing track of the here and now, and placing time in its proper perspective. Prior to the start of the just concluded 11 hits in 3 game series with the now you know how it feels former doormat Pirates, the greatness of the stupidest f ucking man alive, Ruben Amaro stood calmly before the cameras and showing a gray hair for each loss this year, deadpanned, “What we do in the next 10 games will determine what we do” in return to the buy/sell question

    So only 3 of their games are in. Leaves 7, he manually calculated, risking accuracy, but confident that’s over half. So if the Phils win out, the stupidest f ucking man alive, and his blithering buffoon boss, .300 Monty might be, could be, buyers. After all. Everytime Amoron opens his mouth, the gullible ones start quoting him like he spoke the gospel. Idiots. And bad baseball. Painfully so, no less. Bad combination.

    On a closing note, he’s no all-str by normal standards, which haven’t been all-star present for a long time, but I hope Marlon Byrd wiggles his way onto the team. His first half numbers wouldn’t be that out of place as to caue an embarrassment. He’s upheld his part of the bargain, and although it’s not a criteria, it’d be a little recognition for a really and truly good year he had in ’13 that included helping the Bucs finish off a relatively very successful year.
    There’ll be some substitutions, maybe Byrd gets a spot.

  9. DavidE

    July 6, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    Looking at the positive, we are only two games behind last year’s World Champion Red Sox. Next year doesn’t look good now but you never know. Brignac showed some promise. Maybe Jason Marquis has one or two more good years left in him. Regarding today, Sandberg has to rest Rollins, Utley and Howard more. Maybe Giles can be the closer if Papelbon goes.

  10. Jeff Orbach

    July 6, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    Just a thought-Watching Ben Revere today: Would it be legal for them to put an earpiece in his ear and relay directions to him from the bench? You know like : “Don’t go back that ball is in” or ” The ball is to the left run there-no the other left” stuff like that.

    I used to play softball with guy like that-we didn’t get paid though. It’s amazing how guys like him, Dom Brown and others can get to the big leagues and have no idea how to field a position!

  11. Bruce

    July 7, 2014 at 1:03 am

    I can see by the rants posted that many of you are screaming for the head of Amaro Jr. and throwing the team under the bus with the desired “Fire Sale”. I’m not saying there are still some slim hopes for the Phillies to turn their season around. It’s too late for that now and certainly no sign of life with the team as if their offense continues their sleepwalking with 74 games to play and only 37 wins to show for it.

    However, for those who are demanding a fire sale (not likely), keep in mind, the consequence of having a team depleted of its’ talented players and going into a prolong drought of losing seasons with no guarantee that it will end anytime soon.

    More likely, the front office will take the cautious route of wisely choosing which players tp go for prospects and which will remain for further development of their skills. In looking at the bigger picture, there are some positives with a growing group of youing players and especially with the bullpen.

    Who will go? In my opinion, it’s Amaro’s best signing for this season, Marlon Byrd. He would be the most attractive offer fo any team contending for a playoff spot. Burnett and Lee are other possibilities.

  12. bacardipr05

    July 7, 2014 at 5:32 am

    Burnett will be the easier sell although he is having a so-so up this point. The Phils are so thin at just about every position who will replace him in the lineup. I dont hate Papelbon as so many do. I know he can be a bit of douche but he has been performing. However there is no need for a high price closer on a last place team.

    • Chuck A.

      July 7, 2014 at 8:18 am

      Give Ken Giles a shot for the rest of the year. What is there to really lose?

  13. Double Trouble Del

    July 7, 2014 at 8:57 am

    When you look at at contending teams’ needs and what the Phillies have to offer there really don’t seem to be great partnerships out there. Im sure that deals will be done and salaries will be cleared but I don’t see any great returns on the horizon.

    • Scotty Ingerton

      July 7, 2014 at 9:29 am

      According to rumors, Pittsburgh & Baltimore have shown interest in Burnett. Given the production of their secondbasemen this season, St. Louis & San Francisco may have some interest in Utley. I’m sure Rollins, Byrd & Papelbon will interest someone out there.

      Last season, the Cubs traded a journeyman pitcher (Scott Feldman) and received two guys who are now having very good seasons (Jake Arrieta & Pedro Strop). Possibilities are always out there. The more money that the Phils pick up in these deals, the better their return will be.

      • Double Trouble Del

        July 7, 2014 at 10:31 am

        The Mets are also floating Daniel Murphy’s name as a possible solution for both SF and StL. he is nearly 6 years younger than Utley without the large contract and with similar offensive numbers. The Phillies had an opportunity to package Bastardo to the Angels but I think that opportunity has left the building with the Angel’s acquisition of Joe Thatcher. Burnett and Byrd will get you salary relief but not much else. The problem is, as always, the basic evaluation of minor league talent compounded by the apparent ineptitude of OUR team’s evaluation of other teams’ minor league systems.

  14. Dr. Dave

    July 7, 2014 at 9:26 am

    As “Dandy” Don Meredith used to sing on Monday Night Football: “Turn out the lights. The party’s over.” How long B4 we start seeing paper bags over the heads of Phillies Phans?

  15. Hogey's Role

    July 7, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Everybody has to be available in trade talks… I would move anyone we can that will bring us back a decent package…. Brown revere Byrd Ruiz Burnett lee papelbon Hernandez Kendrick, Howard if there are any takers, I’d listen on asche as well….

    Utley and Rollins are playing very well and both have no trade clauses plus we don’t have anyone who will take over for them and play at their level so I’d stand pat there…. Otherwise sell who you can at this point, get some young talent….

    • George

      July 7, 2014 at 10:14 am

      The key word here is talent. Young helps, but the youth the Phils have been using lately are a pretty bad group. I’d trade any one of them, Revere, Brown, Ashe, Rupp, for anyone, because you couldn’t get players who are much worse and you could always get lucky and get someone better. Revere, we all know, can’t field, Brown only hits once in a while and also can’t field, C. Hernandez is a utility guy (a dime a dozen) Rupp is a reserve catcher, and Asche appears to be exactly the kind of regular a second division team is built with.

      I can only see Byrd and Burnett bringing back any kind of return, unless they decide to trade Hamels. The rest are too old and/or expensive, although Papelbon and Lee could bring something back if huge chunks of salary are eaten. Kendrick, R.Hernandez, and most the rest are not the material a condender particularly wants, and if traded, will only be for middling prospects, the kind of players that usually turn into utility men and long relievers.

      • Scotty Ingerton

        July 7, 2014 at 12:32 pm

        They should pick up 100% of any contract if it means getting a real blue chip prospect back. It’s a sunk cost anyway. An old David Murphy column from last season explains it fairly well:

      • George

        July 7, 2014 at 1:39 pm

        While I agree that 100% should be eaten if it means a true “blue chip” or “can’t miss” prospect, I just don’t see Phils’ management going that direction. I think they’ll keep too much money and settle for “high upside” types, like Tommy Joseph or Ethan Martin. I also think that’s partly because other teams seem less and less willing to trade those “can’t miss” guys, despite the A’s recent trade. That was an outlier, not the norm of the past few seasons.

        I think if you ate Lee’s entire contract, you still won’t gain a Mike Trout. It’d be an very good player, but one with smaller chance at superstardom. I’m hoping I’m wrong.

      • Hogey's Role

        July 7, 2014 at 2:23 pm

        We have to not worry so much about quantity of prospects we get, but quality is what we need…

        So if we sell Kendrick and Ruiz together(obviously just an example) for one talented player and eat some money in the process, that is what is needed to be done….

        I’m not so sure I trust our scouting and research departments to find quality prospects however

      • Scotty Ingerton

        July 7, 2014 at 2:46 pm

        There’s no Trout out there (and Kris Bryant isn’t going anywhere soon), but there are plenty of prospects a lot more advanced than anyone in the Phil’s system. The Cardinals have outfielders falling out of trees. Why not go after Stephen Piscotty & Randal Grichuk? As long as they have Holliday, Craig, and Adams around, those guys have no clear path to the majors. They sure aren’t moving Taveras, but maybe they move those two guys in the right situation (with the Phillies picking up the bulk of the money). They need help at second base. Does Utley waive his no trade to go to a contender? Maybe.

    • Dave

      July 7, 2014 at 10:50 am

      There’s not a guy in the lineup who is playing very well. Utely has been in a major slump since June 1st and Rollins is batting .245.

      • Ken Bland

        July 7, 2014 at 2:11 pm

        The lunacy of describing Utley and Rollins playing “very well” (they aren’t playing terribly, but “very well….gimme a BREAK) aside, Ruiz and Byrd are playing pretty well. Ya know, they’re supporting cast types, so it’s not the same level of expectation that might make very well a little different standard.for them.

        But let’s face it, you can find glorified stats within Revere and Howard, but between the years they have had, and even worse, Dom Brown, that’s where you really sink to the levels of NOT playing well. There’s a thick line between the three of them and several other regulars.

      • schmenkman

        July 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm

        I read Hogey’s comment about Utley and Rollins as having played very well so far this season. While there have certainly been ups and downs, with recently many more downs, there is no denying that they have both been well above average at their positions overall.

        Rollins: 8th among all MLB shortstops in fWAR, 6th in the NL
        Utley: 9th among all MLB second basemen, 3rd in the NL

  16. Carlos

    July 7, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    The problem with all the trade talk is we just haven’t been very good at making baseball decisions lately.I wonder if someone tracked all the moves since the WS what the % of good moves would be.

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