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Changes Coming To Phillies Organization

According to Jayson Stark of ESPN, the Phillies will be making many changes throughout the entire organization. He was on 97.5 The Fanatic yesterday with Mike Missanelli, and talked about the state of the Phils organization. He mentioned that, in addition to the changes, he believes that GM Ruben Amaro Jr is unsafe, despite David Montgomery saying that Amaro was not on the hot seat. Listen to the full interview here.

I think the Phillies need to change a lot of things (obviously), and the rumors that Stark is hearing could definitely be a step in the right direction. What do you think?



  1. Hogey's Role

    August 21, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    I won’t hold my hand over my a** waiting for any “changes”

  2. Andrew from waldorf

    August 21, 2014 at 2:15 pm

    Long over due.

    I know people think I am joking when I say he should just quit or resign.

    But I really would if I did any job as poorly as this team has been run since he became GM.

    Id respectfully step away.

    Keep some dignity.

    If he has any left.

  3. Super-Man

    August 21, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    Billy Beane will be the New GM!

  4. Ken Bland

    August 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    Assuming the article ending question is related to seeking response on is Amaro safe, the timing of the question is interesting, or funny, or strange.

    Not the question so much as the answer. Well, my individual one, anyway. Roundabouts 2 years ago now, a credible Phillies blogger (don’t ask what credible means, just accept the subjectivity) wrote that Ruben would be fired in a short time span I can’t remember. To me, that was a step toward discrediting the individual (credits and discredits happen often, not like I was ready to mop the floor with him) because having graduated from The Univerity of Common Sense, it came down to pools on Rube’s exit date were subject to knowing Dave Montgomery’s mentality and zero else. True, other owners might be involved but what should happen don’t have much to do with the subjective world of hiring and firing.

    But now, 3 losing seasons in a row about to be complete, I avoid some f my rightful methods of thought and feel pretty sure Rube will be removed from his current position very soon after the season ends.This is guesswork, of course, and I don’t take it too seriously, but it’s what I expect. And the Stark stuff did nothing to add to or establish that view.

    What I wonder are a couple things. One….this thing with season ducat holders the other night where Monty was quoted about no hot seat. I didn’t read the reviews too attentively, I was pretty caught up in the laughter of Rube apparently having a comfortable chair under his butt, but I wonder what sentiment was conveyed by the present ticket holders to Monty. Mad as hell and we’re not taking it anymore, or supportive.

    Secondly, I’ve never done season ducats to nothing, even partials, but with clubs taking advantage of early deposits , I wonder if there will be some sort of early read visible to Monty that makes him realize how much more droppage attendance can still see unless they try to alter this public relations nightmare.

    The day after the season ends won’t surprise me. Well, that particular day would. I already have 2 loaves of kosher salami on my resume as winnings in a drawing, but I still don’t think I’m overdue yet to nail another perfect guess.

    • paul

      August 21, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      What in God’s name are you talking about? Just a bunch of peacocking, mumbling babble. We get you have a high IQ with zero street smarts. I could have said what took you 19000 words in 1 sentence. Amaro must go. Get off the prescription drugs son.

      • Double Trouble Del

        August 21, 2014 at 9:08 pm

        Release your negativity and let the haze before your eyes be brushed away. Enjoy the posts, savor them as you might savor two fine loaves of kosher salami.

      • Ken Bland

        August 22, 2014 at 3:49 pm

        “I could have said what took you 19000 words in 1 sentence. Amaro must go. Get off the prescription drugs son.”

        That’s too funny. Guy goes 19,000 words deep in count only to totally misquote what was said. Smart enough to point that out, and smart enough not to show my hand. Keep guessing if you want. With a little more blind rage attached. Too stupid to be true.

      • Tracey

        August 22, 2014 at 7:19 pm

        … whereas Paul used 45 words to say “tl/dr”

    • Robotnik

      August 21, 2014 at 9:28 pm

      I am a partial season ducat holder and have been since 2004. I can’t wait for this season to end. I’ll take a break next season assessing their new direction.

      Ken, I’ll trade you a loaf of seeded Jewish rye and a bottle of spicy brown mustard for one of your Kosher salamis. Let me know…..maybe we could pull off this trade before Amaro is gone?

      • Hogey's Role

        August 21, 2014 at 9:40 pm

        Idk why you two don’t get together and have some salami sandwiches, lol

      • Ken Bland

        August 22, 2014 at 3:56 pm

        So I can’t draw too many conclusions off one season ticket guy. but I do wonder what the cutoff for renewal is. Like if you have to renew by 8/15 (of course not), then ownership has an early idea of how pissed people are. Whereas if you have until say 12/1, it leaves ownership holding onto hope. Which might seem utterly stupid to think people will stand for this, but management’s interpretations of some things seems awfully head scratch inducing.

        Have a feeling I’m overthinking the connection between season ticket renewals and personnel changes.

      • Tracey

        August 22, 2014 at 7:21 pm

        I’ve been a partial season ticket holder since 2000. They usually give you a deadline around Jan 1, but they weren’t very strict about it until they started selling out the season tickets after 2008. I’m sure they’ll be happy to take my money as late as opening day.

  5. Bellkirk

    August 21, 2014 at 3:33 pm

    I will believe there is meaningful change when I see it. It was obvious several years ago Amaro was a poor GM, even before the losing started. Maybe now that attendance is down, Montgomery and co. will wake up, but like I said – will believe it when I see it.

  6. Scotty Ingerton

    August 21, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    While I hope that Amaro goes, I’ll also believe it when I see it. This organization has rarely been proactive when it comes to making changes. I think it make sense to bring in someone from outside the organization – with no loyalties or emotional ties to anyone in the current Phillies framework. The situation that they’re in now is obviously a breakdown at many levels, and no matter how much “Comcast money” they have at their disposal, they won’t become a force again until the farm system is churning out quality players on a regular basis. The game is no longer structured in way that teams can use free agency as a way to buy success.

  7. Joe

    August 21, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    amaro has one more year on his contract, they will probably give him next year and then just not renew his deal.

  8. Jared

    August 21, 2014 at 4:43 pm

    If there is a Phillies g-d, let Him (or Her) wear red and please let this be true about Amaro.

  9. Bill Petrick

    August 21, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    The fans, including me, were very happy when the Phillies won the world series. However management became much too sentimental when renewing contracts for the fans and my favorite players. Subsequently, the Phillies may have overemphasized certain traits when drafting with the hope of hitting some home runs since most of the positions were filled with players key to winning our World Series. Recently, I think the Phillies have been very productive with the money allowed. I hope Jason isn’t in managements pockets. It seems if the Rueben has the money, he will spend more wisely now. Perhaps, that player is the Cuban star currently being evaluated if the organizations leaders are willing to spend some now and save some later when some of the current contracts are off the books.

  10. Oran Kelley

    August 21, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    Essentially this means someone wants Stark to be saying this. Who and why are the questions to ask.

  11. Mike

    August 21, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    “Winter is coming.”

    -Jayson Stark

  12. Mike

    August 21, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    “Winter is coming.”
    -Jayson Stark

  13. Barbara Dearie

    August 21, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Make ANY trade you have to, but KEEP Hamels!!! He is our future. Baseball experts always say pitching wins Championships. We won’t win without our Ace. And yes, RAJ MUST GO!

    • Robotnik

      August 21, 2014 at 9:23 pm

      While it would be great to keep Hamels and build around him, the Phillies need more good young players. So no one should viewed as untouchable. If Hamels can bring them several good players, they should make the trade.

    • Dave H

      August 22, 2014 at 12:16 am

      I’d hate to see Hamels go but it’s the best move for the organization. No sense in keeping him around while we rebuild. We won’t be contending for a good long time with or without him. So in the long run it makes more sense to trade him and get a boatload of great young prospects who will hopefully develop into a player just as good as him and help us win down the road. It’s the best time and situation to trade Cole. I appreciate what he’s done for us but it’s best for us to trade him for the young talent we need. Plus he deserves to be on a winning team and compete year after year. Not lose and put up with this Bullshit Ruben Amaro has been putting together ever year

      • Dave H

        August 22, 2014 at 12:17 am

        And yes pitching does help win championships. But 1 good pitcher on a terrible team isn’t going to win us a championship. We have a long wait before philly sees another parade down broad Street

  14. bill lehrman

    August 21, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    Ruin Tomorrow Jr. Enough said

    • schmenkman

      August 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm

      While that will never cease to be hilarious (and kind of true), I’ll always be glad the front office managed to give one of 2008’s oldest teams three more shots at a World Series championship.

  15. Bob Clark

    August 22, 2014 at 12:29 am

    When the Phillies were winning, no one complained or said anything negative. Ruben put together most of that team and signed those players for long term success, even signing additional names as Cliff and Roy. Ruben was building a team for the next 5 yrs and what happened was not his fault. I would like to see other GO’S try to do what he did

  16. Bob Clark

    August 22, 2014 at 12:31 am


  17. Brent Himmelreich

    August 22, 2014 at 10:06 am

    I’m a Business Administration graduate from Millersville University and would like to work in the front offices for the Phillies. Ruben Amaro did a great job with trades in 2008, 2009, and 2010, but he unfortunately made the mistake of trading Hunter Pence, Vance Worley, signed AJ Burnett for 16 million, and signed Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez for 12 million! A scouting debacle and GM decision! My roster: outfield a right handed bat in LF, Sizemore, and Jason Kipnis. Infield: 3B Franco, SS Rollins, 2B Utley, and 1st Base Ruf. Catcher not Ruiz but I would get back into the organization Tuffy Gosewich from the D Backs. The Rotation would be Hamels, Jerome Williams, James Shields, Buchanan and Lee/Aaron Nola. Bullpen, I would trade Bastardo for anything and Ruben should have given Burnett to the Pirates at the deadline and Marlon Byrd to the Mariners.

    • Robotnik

      August 22, 2014 at 9:17 pm

      Brent, RAJ had little to no influence over the 2008 team. That team was Pat Gillick and the players that Ed Wade had brought into the organization – Rollins, Howard, Utley, etc. are all Wade’s.

      Interesting line up that you proposed. ….what did you do with Howard? Just pay him 25MM to sit on the bench?

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