Analysis

Let’s talk about the next Phillies manager …

Whatever your opinion is on Pete Mackanin, come Monday, he’s not the Phillies manager anymore. And the franchise now has to figure out who will be the next manager in what we all hope is going to be the next golden era of Phillies baseball.

So let’s break this down with a few of the possibilities and odds on who might be the next Phillies manager in a few different categories:

UNDER CONTRACT ELSEWHERE

These are guys we’d probably love to have. But they’re under contract with their current teams at least through next year.

BUCK SHOWALTER: Let’s just turn Philadelphia into Baltimore North, shall we? Team president Andy McPhail, General Manager Matt Klentak and assistant GM Ned Rice all have Orioles roots, so why not just add another? Showalter is one of the best managers in baseball, and has proven it with playoff appearances in three different spots (Yankees, Diamondbacks, Orioles). Here’s a bonus: he may have an in with Manny Machado, who is up for free agency after the 2018 season and would be a Jim Thome-like signing for the franchise. He seems to have worn out his welcome in Charm City, so he may not be under contract for that long. For the Phillies to dump Mackanin, there must have been a Plan B ready. Showalter seems like Plan B. ODDS: Even.

MIKE SCIOSCIA: Upper Darby boy who took Penn State classes (thanks Wikipedia!) and has proven to be totally cool with the analytic philosophy the Phillies want. He’s been to a World Series and took what was essentially a pretty patchwork Angels team to the cusp of the playoffs this year. He may have the bigger “in” than Showalter — Mike Effing Trout. If you’re telling me there is anything more than a 15 percent chance that Trout comes to Philly in 2021 by backing up a dump truck full of money onto Scioscia’s front yard and giving up a tampering draft pick to get Scioscia here … I do it. Every day of the week and twice on Sunday. But he seems like a West Coast guy now. ODDS: 3-1

IN THE ORGANIZATION

You always want to promote from within. But the choices aren’t thrilling.

DUSTY WATHAN: No. Just, no. You’re going to hear a lot about Wathan because the kids coming up love him, and he’s done a great job with them in Reading in 2016 and this year in Allentown. And that’s great. Good job, Dusty! Dusty, would you like to be the bench coach? Cool, pull up a chair! But the Phillies just spent three years with an inexperienced manager who couldn’t seem to figure out the whole big-league thing. And same for Ryne Sandberg before that. Let’s move on. ODDS: Sadly, 5-1

JUAN SAMUEL: It’s surprising that his name is even out there since he’s been pretty maligned for his work as a third base coach. “We know you can’t get Odubel to hold up on a seeing eye single, but by all means, run our team!” However, one thing everyone seemed to love about Mackanin was his Spanish fluency, and obviously, Samuel has that. Not that it’ll be the reason he gets a job … ODDS: 50-1

LARRY BOWA: No. But thought we should mention him. ODDS: Just stop. Fine. Like, 7 trillion to 1.

RECENTLY FIRED

They couldn’t cut it with their teams. So why would the Phillies think of these choices?

BRAD AUSMUS: Why is anyone even talking about him for this job? He made the playoffs in his first year with Jim Leyland’s team, then missed the next three years and found himself out of a job. Again, just no. ODDS: He’ll get an interview, that’s all. 100-1

TERRY COLLINS: Technically he’s still employed, but you know … Anyway, he’s not a good fit. ODDS: 200-1

UP AND COMER

JOE MCEWING: Philly guy (Levittown) who is going to be the hottest name on the market this offseason for the limited jobs that will be available. He’s already being talked about for the Mets job after serving as bench coach for the White Sox since 2012 and managing triple-A before that. He’s going to get an interview, unless the Mets lock him up before the Phillies get a chance. But he may want to hold out and wait to see what the Phillies do if he wants to come home. ODDS: 10-1

WE’VE SCORNED HIM BEFORE

JIM LEYLAND: One of baseball’s best modern-era managers, he famously – infamously? – interviewed for the job before Charlie Manuel got the position. He told Phillies execs they needed to completely break down the team and start over, including getting rid of Bobby Abreu (in his prime) for whatever anyone wanted to offer. He got the “don’t call us, we’ll call you” treatment even though he was right (sort of). He managed the USA World Baseball Classic team to a championship this year. But this is a long-term job that won’t come to fruition until 2020, at least. Do the Phillies really want to deal with an “I’m burned out” press conference on Memorial Day 2019?  ODDS: 50-1

13 Comments

13 Comments

  1. Jim rosenburg

    October 1, 2017 at 9:02 am

    Maybe you can answer this question. Did Cookie Rojas ever play all nine positions in a single game for the Phillies?

    • Ronald scafidi

      October 2, 2017 at 4:57 pm

      He sure did

  2. Vernon Dozier

    October 1, 2017 at 12:44 pm

    Leyland is almost 73…I think the odds of him being hired are much greater than 50-1.

  3. James conrad

    October 1, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Think Pete did just fine.
    Wouldn’t mind seeing Charlie Manuel back as the skipper

    • JohnCap

      October 2, 2017 at 2:11 am

      Charlie was good with a lineup he could just wait to hit homers. He never really managed. And he’s too old. Besides, not gonna happen. Klentak wants his guy.

  4. JohnCap

    October 2, 2017 at 2:10 am

    Letland wasnt “right sort of” about that team it Abreu, he was just right.

    And coming up on his 73rd birthday, no, just no…

  5. Walt

    October 2, 2017 at 7:27 am

    Bowa managed the Phils before why not again. If Joe Torre trusted him why shouldn’t the Phils.

    Bowa and Wade built a team then Big Chuck came in on Tomeys coat tails to sit back and watch it win. No thanks to Charlie Manuel.

    How about Tommy Lasorda another local man.

    We’ve got a dugout full of young players eager to learn and win. We need a manager who creates Win Win situations for them and the sky is the limit.

    • Justin McElroy

      October 3, 2017 at 8:05 am

      Larry Bowa will be 72 in a few weeks. His managerial days are long gone.

  6. Barry Karnes

    October 2, 2017 at 8:00 am

    Mike Sarbaugh – Indians 3rd base coach 50 years old. Shillington, PA resident

    On December 1, 2009, Sarbaugh was named the manager of the Columbus Clippers for the 2010 season.Sarbaugh won both the 2010 and 2011 Triple-A championships as Clippers’ manager.

    Sarbaugh was named the third base coach/infielders coach for the Cleveland Indians and has remained in that position from 2013 through the 2016 season.

    Source Wikipedia

  7. denzen

    October 2, 2017 at 8:19 am

    What…Charlie Manuel? Larry Bowa? Tommy Lasorda.? No thanks. Seriously.?? “Let’s do the time warp again.” No Thanks. wow

  8. Ken Bland

    October 2, 2017 at 8:50 am

    Each well known Philly print media outlet has offered candidate lists so far. The names are what you’d expect, and largely the same from list to list. Ryan Lawrence from Philly Voice offered one that isn’t shared that might be a sleeper, Raul Ibanez, who was reported as a serious candidate for a job a couple years back, although I forget which team it was. I reacted to the opening quickly and decisively from the get go with Buck Showalter and continue that way. Raul at least SEEMS like he might be a good skipper at some point, and is an interesting mention, but I feel like this management team is going to go with a candidate they have experience with as they are in no position to regress with this rebuild. But if you’re willing to branch out, take chances, etc., Ibanez, out of this recently retired, no previous experience mold might well make for a good choice.

  9. Betasigmadeltashag

    October 2, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    FIrst off with the right moves this team can compete next year.
    Like a lot this front office does, like waiting to long to bring kids up and have them learn at the top level. get with the times and not recycle someone else’s guy. LOOK AT most the successful teams teams recently took a chance on a smart one inexperienced guy.
    I LIKE THE IDEA Of Rual had Chooch.

  10. Jeff Orbach

    October 2, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    Would love to see Chooch as manager. How about J-Roll as 1b coach? Maybe he could teach some of our players how to steal a base.

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