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		<title>By: Bobby Wallingford</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/03/hamels-upset-over-2008-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2834</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Wallingford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I like Cole, anyone who complains about making $500,000 over a year, when other folks do more important things in society for much less money, deserves to be punched in the face.  The pay structure isn&#039;t the problem...the problem is that too much value is assigned to the ability to perform activities that have little intrinsic value.   

That being said, I hope the Phillies get new management quickly.  Anyone who thinks that Adam Eaton is worth more than Ryan Howard or Cole Hamels needs to leave.  I&#039;m sick of the pennypinching when it comes to good players and the overpaying when it comes to mediocre players (Burrell most of the time, Eaton).  And if Lohse wants four million next year, give it to him.  After last season, better to start with 6 pitchers than 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I like Cole, anyone who complains about making $500,000 over a year, when other folks do more important things in society for much less money, deserves to be punched in the face.  The pay structure isn&#8217;t the problem&#8230;the problem is that too much value is assigned to the ability to perform activities that have little intrinsic value.   </p>
<p>That being said, I hope the Phillies get new management quickly.  Anyone who thinks that Adam Eaton is worth more than Ryan Howard or Cole Hamels needs to leave.  I&#8217;m sick of the pennypinching when it comes to good players and the overpaying when it comes to mediocre players (Burrell most of the time, Eaton).  And if Lohse wants four million next year, give it to him.  After last season, better to start with 6 pitchers than 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Gil</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/03/hamels-upset-over-2008-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2831</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt Kwasiborski:  Well said, sir.  I was hoping I wouldn&#039;t be the first one in this thread to say, &quot;Shut up and pitch.&quot;  

I&#039;m a big CH fan, and know that the Phightin&#039;s front office hasn&#039;t merited our unqualified confidence, but if the kid pitches the way he&#039;s capable and keeps himself healthy, he&#039;s gonna make plenty of dough pitching in the major leagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Kwasiborski:  Well said, sir.  I was hoping I wouldn&#8217;t be the first one in this thread to say, &#8220;Shut up and pitch.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big CH fan, and know that the Phightin&#8217;s front office hasn&#8217;t merited our unqualified confidence, but if the kid pitches the way he&#8217;s capable and keeps himself healthy, he&#8217;s gonna make plenty of dough pitching in the major leagues.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its easy to give Hamels the extra cash he wants but every team would feel the repurcussions felt with any young pitcher coming up.  This year its this much and next year its more.  Its endless with every team out there.  Its inevitable, but the Phillies didn&#039;t want to set some precedent with Cole.  Just like they didn&#039;t want to set one with Ryne Howard.  That is not how MLB is set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its easy to give Hamels the extra cash he wants but every team would feel the repurcussions felt with any young pitcher coming up.  This year its this much and next year its more.  Its endless with every team out there.  Its inevitable, but the Phillies didn&#8217;t want to set some precedent with Cole.  Just like they didn&#8217;t want to set one with Ryne Howard.  That is not how MLB is set up.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Kwasiborski</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/03/hamels-upset-over-2008-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2821</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Kwasiborski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all think Hamels is worth the money through his potential. Problem is, he rarely holds up for the entire year healthy. And he needs to win some awards as Howard has already done. Once he wins a Cy Young or makes an All-Star team, then he should just shut up and pitch. 

He does seem like he is used to always getting his way and isn&#039;t shy about complaining to the media. I don&#039;t think dirty laundry should ever be made public, yet this is two major gripes of his in 6 months and he went crying to the media about them. 

He will get paid in due time, but he has to realize he has never stayed healthy for a season yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all think Hamels is worth the money through his potential. Problem is, he rarely holds up for the entire year healthy. And he needs to win some awards as Howard has already done. Once he wins a Cy Young or makes an All-Star team, then he should just shut up and pitch. </p>
<p>He does seem like he is used to always getting his way and isn&#8217;t shy about complaining to the media. I don&#8217;t think dirty laundry should ever be made public, yet this is two major gripes of his in 6 months and he went crying to the media about them. </p>
<p>He will get paid in due time, but he has to realize he has never stayed healthy for a season yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/03/hamels-upset-over-2008-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamels is a West Coast Boy, unless the Phils give him the money to stay, he will go to a california team.  I agree he hasnt produced yet, and hopefully the phillies will know if the time comes to trade him as opposed to let him walk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamels is a West Coast Boy, unless the Phils give him the money to stay, he will go to a california team.  I agree he hasnt produced yet, and hopefully the phillies will know if the time comes to trade him as opposed to let him walk</p>
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		<title>By: OZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>OZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamels is still too young/new to be taking that approach.   That said, even more evidence (not that we needed it) about the awful management/spending/P.R. skills of Dave Montgomery, Bill Giles, Harpo, Groucho, etc.  

Why didn&#039;t Scott Palmer approach them and say &quot;Hey, you may make only 22.5 million this year, instead of 26.5 million but we could really win back the fans, silence the critics and keep Howard and Hamels happy - would be great for P.R., great for the clubhouse morale, and hey, we can make plenty of cheap decisions later.  Heck knows we&#039;re good at that.&quot;

Dense.  Dense.  Dense.  

Can someone put Montgomery on a horse and smack it in the direction of a desert...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamels is still too young/new to be taking that approach.   That said, even more evidence (not that we needed it) about the awful management/spending/P.R. skills of Dave Montgomery, Bill Giles, Harpo, Groucho, etc.  </p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t Scott Palmer approach them and say &#8220;Hey, you may make only 22.5 million this year, instead of 26.5 million but we could really win back the fans, silence the critics and keep Howard and Hamels happy &#8211; would be great for P.R., great for the clubhouse morale, and hey, we can make plenty of cheap decisions later.  Heck knows we&#8217;re good at that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dense.  Dense.  Dense.  </p>
<p>Can someone put Montgomery on a horse and smack it in the direction of a desert&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Homers Plague Hamels; Carrasco Impressive In Tie &#124; Phillies Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.philliesnation.com/archives/2008/03/hamels-upset-over-2008-money/comment-page-1/#comment-2814</link>
		<dc:creator>Homers Plague Hamels; Carrasco Impressive In Tie &#124; Phillies Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the sense that Hamels means it when he says he&#039;ll remember it.  But if he produces again, which he most likely will, the Phils would be absolutely insane not to lock him up for a long, long time with big, big money.  His time, and his money, will come.  He just needs to have a little patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the sense that Hamels means it when he says he&#8217;ll remember it.  But if he produces again, which he most likely will, the Phils would be absolutely insane not to lock him up for a long, long time with big, big money.  His time, and his money, will come.  He just needs to have a little patience.</p>
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		<title>By: Dallyllama21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dallyllama21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.Chris.I Says</description>
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		<title>By: Chris.I</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris.I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it me, or does he remind anyone else of another Scott Rollen? Hamels is a good pitcher, but he really hasn&#039;t proved Sh*t..He&#039;s only had one damn full season. He sees Howard shaking more leaves from the tree, and feels he can too...Word of advice to Hamels..Did you notice how HUGE howards nose is? The mans a beast for christ sake, and you my friend aint &#039;&#039;yet&#039;&#039; lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it me, or does he remind anyone else of another Scott Rollen? Hamels is a good pitcher, but he really hasn&#8217;t proved Sh*t..He&#8217;s only had one damn full season. He sees Howard shaking more leaves from the tree, and feels he can too&#8230;Word of advice to Hamels..Did you notice how HUGE howards nose is? The mans a beast for christ sake, and you my friend aint &#8221;yet&#8221; lol.</p>
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