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48 Responses to “Gameday: Phillies (3-4) At Mets (2-3)”

1. Bruce Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am

   Looking forward to today’s renewed rivalry.

   BTW, I read the following and posting here regarding the Helms deal with the Florida Marlins:

   From the South Florida Sun-Sentinel (courtesy of Rotoworld):

   Helms will not add a penny to 2008 team salary
   BY JUAN C. RODRIGUEZ

   South Florida Sun-Sentinel

   April 8, 2008

   WASHINGTON

   Pay no mind to that $2.15 million salary figure attached to Wes Helms this
   season. The Marlins aren’t paying a nickel of it.

   They didn’t reacquire Helms for free, but this deal is another example of why
   the Marlins consistently get more per dollar than any organization in baseball.

   According to a source familiar with the transaction, the Phillies agreed to pick
   up Helms’ entire 2008 salary. Helms won’t cost the Marlins anything during the
   season, but they will have to pay him $750,000 this offseason to buy out a $3.75
   million club option. That is the final component of the two-year, $4.95 million
   contract Helms signed with the Phillies prior to 2007.

   The Phillies designated Helms for assignment last week and would have been
   responsible for the remaining $2.9 million of his contract had they released
   him. By dealing him to the Marlins, they begrudgingly benefit from a 26 percent
   savings.

   Had they pulled the trigger earlier, the Phillies could have saved a
   significantly bigger bundle. During the Winter Meetings, the Marlins are
   believed to have offered to pick up $2 million of Helms’ remaining contract plus
   send the Phillies a player, the source said.

   Though the official language states the Marlins received Helms for cash
   consideration or a player to be named, that part already has been determined as
   well. In many cases such as this, the cash consideration is one dollar.

   Another blemish on Gillick’s legacy.

   _________________________________________________________________

2. Sean P. Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

   hmm $1 for Wes Helms seems like to much.

3. Gnomicide Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

   Whatever. Sometimes you have to cut you losses and look to the future. Wes Helms had no future in Philly. They get rid of the option and pay him for this year. Sounds good enough to me for a guy who had no marketability.

   In hindsight, I guess pointing out that they could have gotten more for him makes argumentive sense, but at that time we probably weren’t too sure who was going to replace him yet either. Imagine if we got a reliever, never signed Feliz, and now put our fate in the hands of Dobbs and a backup for 162 games? We’d be in far worse shape, because although Feliz has hardly proven to be the iron defender that we all hoped, it’s five games in and anything is a step above Greg Dobbs at defense.

4. Tim Malcolm Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

   Boy, Gameday is slow today.

5. Mike Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

   Use MLB Audio.

   Ridiculous, sounds like a baserunning blunder by Werth there.

6. Mike Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

   Jesus. Delgado vs Moyer, something like this:

   440 avg, 8 HR, 66 ABs

7. Tim Malcolm Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

   Can’t do either from my crappy work computer. I have MLB.tv.

8. Mike Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

   I have mlb.tv as well, but mlb.tv comes with mlb audio. but if you have a crappy work computer then obviously therein lies the problem.

   Perez stinks, we need to light him up. Gotta be patient with him.

9. Kyle Says:
   April 8th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

   F@#$(ING DOUBLE PLAY MACHINE PEDRO FELIZ!! Seriously, I thought this guy was supposed to be a defensive upgrade??!?!?

10. Kyle Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    And why is Feliz still hitting above Ruiz in the lineup? He just stops any kind of rally the middle of the order gets going.

11. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    I can’t even get audio, sadly. Oh, and someone should click the audio link with the gameday post. That is all.

12. Mike Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    We are so bad. I knew our pitching was horrible – but I didn’t know our hitting was going to be this bad. I don’t see us winning 70 games this year.

13. Gnomicide Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Don’t overexaggerate. At this point, we are miles ahead of where we were at the same time last season and we know where we ended up.

    It’s April.

14. Mike Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    We’re 3-4, about to be 3-5. I wouldn’t call that miles ahead.

15. Gnomicide Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    How is being down by two runs in the 5th, “about to be 3-5″? This is baseball. That sort of lead can be surpassed easily. I just don’t think being largely pessimisstic about a team like this after seven games is a smart call.

    How did we start out last year? 4-11 or something like that? Yes, we’re miles ahead, and unless we lose the next 5 or 6 straight, it’ll stay that way throughout April into the summer months where the Phillies usually heat up.

16. Mike Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    It’s the ownership that kills me – they’re to blame.

    In any case, I’ll keep the pessimism to myself.

17. Mike Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    AGAIN – please note the difference b/w the MIKE that lights up in red, and me, which does not. To be able to distinguish myself from this ridiculous pessimist who feels liek we wont win 70 games and we should trade Howard, I will now be referring to myself as Mike W.

18. Gnomicide Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    Am I reading my play-by-play right?

    Did Dobbs PH for Moyer, the Mets switch a pitcher, then Charlie subbed Taguchi in for Dobbs??

19. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Chase is a ball magnet today

20. Mike W. Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Yes you read that right.

    More importantly hopefully you read right that the game is tied.

21. Daniel aka Embassy Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    I’m following the game on MSN – MLB Game Trax so I’m not seeing anything. Does Chase have a target on his jersey today lol? Was he seriously hit by 3 pitches in one game? And I’m getting David Bell flashbacks right now just hearing the name Feliz.

22. Gnomicide Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    1-run lead. This is why you don’t pencil in a loss in the 5th.

23. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Six more outs. Gordon then Romero? Or vice versa? Seanez? What does he do?

24. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Big spot for the MVP here.

25. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    chase was hit by 3 balls then when running to second Delgado pounded him on the back. (reason why we got the 2 runs) As im typing this J-Roll RBI single 4-2.

26. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    And what d’ya know?

27. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Crap, what’s wrong with Rollins?

28. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    idk i hope hes ok. it’s probably just a twisted ankle when he slid back into second.

29. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    i was kinda hoping they would go Gordon then Romero. But oh well.

30. Mike W. Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    SOMEBODY please give us an update on jroll. the radio announcers dont seem to know shit.

31. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    It’s a sprained left ankle, according to the Mets announcers.

32. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    yeah they just announced whats wrong with him. calm down

33. OZ Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    did i reach correctly – 23 runners LOB? however, good job to my main man, Jamie Moyer.

34. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    wooooooooooooo nice job phils

35. OZ Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    i’ll take the W boys…..

36. Paul Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Round one to the Phils! Good job by the pitching staff today.

37. Mike W. Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    9 straight and counting.

    Sprained ankle – do you all realize how little that means? Sprained ankle can mean out 2 days or 2 months. I really hope this doesn’t mean a DL stint…crossing my fingers.

38. NateB Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    was mlb.tv denying everyone today, or just me? i was waiting to watch this game forever… listening to the game just isn’t the same!

39. Mike W. Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Nate, do you live in nyc (like i do)?

    If so, then yes, it will always be blacked out.

40. NateB Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    i’m in denver. nothing’s ever blocked but the rockies games… except for today. btw- if anyone’s going to the phillies games next week in denver let me know, i’ll be there.

41. Geoff Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    I am amazed that moyer only gave up two runs, but my prediction still stands. good win though, the mets bullpen has some problems. good outing by the phiilies pen as well

42. true met fan Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

    good win for you guys. rollins really stepped up. I think our boys in orange and blue are really feeling the pressure and are pressing. our starting staff still has the edge, but with the lineup theres really no doubt. who’s better. Hopefully we turn it around and its competitive year. P.S. I was at the game and not that many phils fans like I thought there would be. How many mets fans show up to cbp ?

43. Mike W. Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    It’s different for the a) home opener and b) weekday games.

    obviously next weekend cbp will be infested with you aholes b/c it’s a weekend.

44. chris.I Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Mets fans are pathetic, just like their team…All this talk, and they lost the 9th straight against the Phils..HA

45. Tim Malcolm Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Met fan: A lot of Mets fans show up at the Vault; there will be a good amount next weekend. I’ll be there, but rooting for my boys, of course. BTW guys, I’m going that Friday night and Saturday afternoon. Who else is?

46. true met fan Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Hey Mike,

    Yes NY’ers are A holes, but since when are Philly sports fans sweethearts ? Come on man this is the east coast, this aint green bay wi. Why not you A’holes infest shea the same way we do at cbp ? I still havent checked it out, but would love to, my mets/yankee friends have seen it. and said its a really nice park.

    Are tickets still available for Mets/Phils at CBP ??????? and I mean not at insane prices ?

47. Fran Says:
    April 8th, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    im trying to go friday. Saturday is sold out and i think sunday might be too.

48. Pat Says:
    April 9th, 2008 at 12:33 am

    Awww man. I got Rick Roll’d!

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