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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first eighth of season grades so far: 

Starting pitching: C
This is actually a brighter spot than anyone of us had going into the season: We bought high on Myers, bought waaaay low on Eaton, about even on Hamels and depending on expectations, Moyer and Kendrick have been passable. A bit more offense makes the SP look a lot better. 

My take for the rest of the season: 
Hamels turns it up, Myers reduces his # of bad starts, Eaton stays solid, Moyer waivers but holds, and Benson or Durbin eventually subplant Kendrick. 

Bullpen: A+++
Best in the league?!!! I&#039;d have eaten my hat by now if you&#039;d have bet me the Phils would be #1 in the NL in this department. The opening day meltdowns were hardly a harbringer of signs to come. In my opinion, The Real Real Deal (Durbin #2) is the difference and effectively eats innings whilst preserving the late inning guys. Lidge...excellent start. 

My take: the issue will come down in mid-season about whether to move Durbin to the rotation to help out. Benson and Kline may soften the transition. I think the patchwork arms are much better than last season. I think the &#039;pen will continue to be solid. 

Lineup: D+
I&#039;m separating this into three sections: The unbelievable: Utley, Burrell (a.k.a why we are at .500. This section brings the average UP to D+; the rest makes me yearn for the days of Travis Lee), the bad: (Bruntlett, Jenkins, Feliz, Ruiz), and the UGLY: (Howard). Was Howard this bad last April? Time heals all wounds, I suppose... and 47 HRs. 
It&#039;s seriously time to give Dobbs a couple of starts at first, and let the big man clear his head. It seems like foul balls are positives for him at this point. 
Werth is a nice positive for the year, recent bone-head base-running errors and bad 9th inning at-bat aside, he looks good and is the only guy other than Utley and Burrell that inspires any confidence when he steps to the plate. 
All in, the Phils are in a real spot without J-Roll and Shane Vic up there and it is VERY noticeable in their lineup. 

For the rest of the season: The return of Rollins, Vic, and warm weather spark a resurgence in the Phils bats, Werth makes everyone forget about Rowand, Howard forgets about his ten F#$king million (have it already, you bastard), remembers he loves playing baseball, cracks a f*$king smile, and puts THE next pitch in the left field bleachers of CBP. 

Bench: A++: 
I had a feeling this may be a strength of this years rendition of the Phils (Werth, Dobbs, Taguchi, (even Bohn) have all given us significant  contributions this year. Bruntlett, while certainly not filling the shoes of J-Roll, is a serviceable band-aid and let&#039;s be honest, you ain&#039;t going to replace the MVP. Coste is once again on fire despite swinging like he&#039;s starting a motor-boat and continues to exceed any expectations I ever have for him. 
Jenkins sucks. You have to EARN my fanship for me to still like you if you look that bad striking out. 

Rest of the Season: Only gets deeper and more experienced as Rollins and Vic come back. Jenkins is bartered for a sack of nickels to the Marlins and Snelling productively takes his place. 

Fielding: D-
Ugh. Just a shade above failing, this is one thing I liked best about Phils teams of years past. Starting to see indications of Phils flashing the leather, and since Howard is everyone&#039;s favorite punching bag in this department, he has played a pretty good first during the past week.  

Rest of the season: Uncle Charlie must stress the fundamentals of trying to pull the ball out of the park, instead of fielding drills in March. Track record is too good for the blip to be of sustained significance.

Baserunning: C
Where have you gone, Davy Lopes? Our lonely PhilsNation turns its lonely eyes to you. I expected some of the flash to leave with Bourne, but with Rollins and Vic out... Jesus, this team set records last year. 
To quote my brother: &quot;Does Pat Burrell have knees?&quot;

Managing: A
I&#039;m probably the only phan of Philly to constantly support Uncle Chuck throughout his tenure, but I really think he&#039;s a good player guy. I think he works well with his new nucleus sans &quot;deadweight&quot; Abreu (if you would have told me I&#039;d hate him 3 years ago, I would have punched you in the mouth, but look at me now). With the amount of injuries this team sustained last year and to make the run, they did... well, it ain&#039;t all Rowand and Rollins. 
I even liked the &#039;leaving Hamels in too long&#039; move, tonight. Why? Cause it was an old-school manager move challenging his player decision. Every that big-time pitcher throws that rosin-bag down in disgust and says after the game, &quot;only if I got the chance&quot; when he gets pulled. Well, Hamels, you got your wish. Now what? I think Hamels may remember this one.  

Intangibles: A+. Aaron Rowand who? You show me any team who gets the type of production out of their last two LEAGUE-MVPs that the Phils have this year, and I&#039;ll show you a 6-16 team. This team still has plenty of heart and thats why they&#039;re still floating at .500.

Prediction: Phils pull it together and battle out...THE BRAVES to a 2 game win in the NL East: 90-71 (one rain-out not needed to be made up) 

*This page/page-and-a-half long analysis brought to you by a bottle of wine and no Phillies fans around listen to my half-assed viewpoints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first eighth of season grades so far: </p>
<p>Starting pitching: C<br />
This is actually a brighter spot than anyone of us had going into the season: We bought high on Myers, bought waaaay low on Eaton, about even on Hamels and depending on expectations, Moyer and Kendrick have been passable. A bit more offense makes the SP look a lot better. </p>
<p>My take for the rest of the season:<br />
Hamels turns it up, Myers reduces his # of bad starts, Eaton stays solid, Moyer waivers but holds, and Benson or Durbin eventually subplant Kendrick. </p>
<p>Bullpen: A+++<br />
Best in the league?!!! I&#8217;d have eaten my hat by now if you&#8217;d have bet me the Phils would be #1 in the NL in this department. The opening day meltdowns were hardly a harbringer of signs to come. In my opinion, The Real Real Deal (Durbin #2) is the difference and effectively eats innings whilst preserving the late inning guys. Lidge&#8230;excellent start. </p>
<p>My take: the issue will come down in mid-season about whether to move Durbin to the rotation to help out. Benson and Kline may soften the transition. I think the patchwork arms are much better than last season. I think the &#8216;pen will continue to be solid. </p>
<p>Lineup: D+<br />
I&#8217;m separating this into three sections: The unbelievable: Utley, Burrell (a.k.a why we are at .500. This section brings the average UP to D+; the rest makes me yearn for the days of Travis Lee), the bad: (Bruntlett, Jenkins, Feliz, Ruiz), and the UGLY: (Howard). Was Howard this bad last April? Time heals all wounds, I suppose&#8230; and 47 HRs.<br />
It&#8217;s seriously time to give Dobbs a couple of starts at first, and let the big man clear his head. It seems like foul balls are positives for him at this point.<br />
Werth is a nice positive for the year, recent bone-head base-running errors and bad 9th inning at-bat aside, he looks good and is the only guy other than Utley and Burrell that inspires any confidence when he steps to the plate.<br />
All in, the Phils are in a real spot without J-Roll and Shane Vic up there and it is VERY noticeable in their lineup. </p>
<p>For the rest of the season: The return of Rollins, Vic, and warm weather spark a resurgence in the Phils bats, Werth makes everyone forget about Rowand, Howard forgets about his ten F#$king million (have it already, you bastard), remembers he loves playing baseball, cracks a f*$king smile, and puts THE next pitch in the left field bleachers of CBP. </p>
<p>Bench: A++:<br />
I had a feeling this may be a strength of this years rendition of the Phils (Werth, Dobbs, Taguchi, (even Bohn) have all given us significant  contributions this year. Bruntlett, while certainly not filling the shoes of J-Roll, is a serviceable band-aid and let&#8217;s be honest, you ain&#8217;t going to replace the MVP. Coste is once again on fire despite swinging like he&#8217;s starting a motor-boat and continues to exceed any expectations I ever have for him.<br />
Jenkins sucks. You have to EARN my fanship for me to still like you if you look that bad striking out. </p>
<p>Rest of the Season: Only gets deeper and more experienced as Rollins and Vic come back. Jenkins is bartered for a sack of nickels to the Marlins and Snelling productively takes his place. </p>
<p>Fielding: D-<br />
Ugh. Just a shade above failing, this is one thing I liked best about Phils teams of years past. Starting to see indications of Phils flashing the leather, and since Howard is everyone&#8217;s favorite punching bag in this department, he has played a pretty good first during the past week.  </p>
<p>Rest of the season: Uncle Charlie must stress the fundamentals of trying to pull the ball out of the park, instead of fielding drills in March. Track record is too good for the blip to be of sustained significance.</p>
<p>Baserunning: C<br />
Where have you gone, Davy Lopes? Our lonely PhilsNation turns its lonely eyes to you. I expected some of the flash to leave with Bourne, but with Rollins and Vic out&#8230; Jesus, this team set records last year.<br />
To quote my brother: &#8220;Does Pat Burrell have knees?&#8221;</p>
<p>Managing: A<br />
I&#8217;m probably the only phan of Philly to constantly support Uncle Chuck throughout his tenure, but I really think he&#8217;s a good player guy. I think he works well with his new nucleus sans &#8220;deadweight&#8221; Abreu (if you would have told me I&#8217;d hate him 3 years ago, I would have punched you in the mouth, but look at me now). With the amount of injuries this team sustained last year and to make the run, they did&#8230; well, it ain&#8217;t all Rowand and Rollins.<br />
I even liked the &#8216;leaving Hamels in too long&#8217; move, tonight. Why? Cause it was an old-school manager move challenging his player decision. Every that big-time pitcher throws that rosin-bag down in disgust and says after the game, &#8220;only if I got the chance&#8221; when he gets pulled. Well, Hamels, you got your wish. Now what? I think Hamels may remember this one.  </p>
<p>Intangibles: A+. Aaron Rowand who? You show me any team who gets the type of production out of their last two LEAGUE-MVPs that the Phils have this year, and I&#8217;ll show you a 6-16 team. This team still has plenty of heart and thats why they&#8217;re still floating at .500.</p>
<p>Prediction: Phils pull it together and battle out&#8230;THE BRAVES to a 2 game win in the NL East: 90-71 (one rain-out not needed to be made up) </p>
<p>*This page/page-and-a-half long analysis brought to you by a bottle of wine and no Phillies fans around listen to my half-assed viewpoints.</p>
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		<title>By: chris m</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its easier to take a 10-1  loss if you didnt fuk up badly in the field then a 6-5 loss we should of won...listen to how pissed off every1 is...10-1 losses are more of dissapointments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its easier to take a 10-1  loss if you didnt fuk up badly in the field then a 6-5 loss we should of won&#8230;listen to how pissed off every1 is&#8230;10-1 losses are more of dissapointments</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 6-5 blown 8th inning lead is sure as hell a better loss than a 10-1 blow-out. Any situations where the game is on the line is better than YO-el mop-up man giving up seeds to minor league prospects in the 6th. Hamels is better off for being in that situation (probably why Manuel left him in), I&#039;ll bet he takes a lot from it. These are the kinds of mistakes that get made in the early going so they don&#039;t get made down the run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 6-5 blown 8th inning lead is sure as hell a better loss than a 10-1 blow-out. Any situations where the game is on the line is better than YO-el mop-up man giving up seeds to minor league prospects in the 6th. Hamels is better off for being in that situation (probably why Manuel left him in), I&#8217;ll bet he takes a lot from it. These are the kinds of mistakes that get made in the early going so they don&#8217;t get made down the run.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so pissed right now and the game has been over for almost an hour. Werth should slam his head in the clubhouse door and Uncle Chuck should drive back to WV and never come back. This is the second game he has left the starting pitcher in too long the 3-4 loss to the Reds on Saturday. This guy might manage his players but he is the dumb fuking baseball mind in the whole world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so pissed right now and the game has been over for almost an hour. Werth should slam his head in the clubhouse door and Uncle Chuck should drive back to WV and never come back. This is the second game he has left the starting pitcher in too long the 3-4 loss to the Reds on Saturday. This guy might manage his players but he is the dumb fuking baseball mind in the whole world.</p>
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		<title>By: chris m</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no loss worse then another??? your an idiot bruce...the moral in the clubhouse after a loss like this is a little differant then a game they played well but just got beat by a better team...this type of loss could rollover.  give werth the jeltz award...decent managers win a few games for a team and lose a few...this is one for the latter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no loss worse then another??? your an idiot bruce&#8230;the moral in the clubhouse after a loss like this is a little differant then a game they played well but just got beat by a better team&#8230;this type of loss could rollover.  give werth the jeltz award&#8230;decent managers win a few games for a team and lose a few&#8230;this is one for the latter</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A loss is a loss... is a loss... is a loss... is a loss... they are all alike to me; none worse than the other;  all ELEVEN of them.  Oh well, tomorrow is another day as the Phillies will try for a SIXTH time to go above the mediocre mark.

Put away your crying towel and wave the &quot;rally&quot; towel to support the Phillies tomorrow. As mentioned so often, the season is a marathon, not a sprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A loss is a loss&#8230; is a loss&#8230; is a loss&#8230; is a loss&#8230; they are all alike to me; none worse than the other;  all ELEVEN of them.  Oh well, tomorrow is another day as the Phillies will try for a SIXTH time to go above the mediocre mark.</p>
<p>Put away your crying towel and wave the &#8220;rally&#8221; towel to support the Phillies tomorrow. As mentioned so often, the season is a marathon, not a sprint.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it obvious now that a move needs to be made? or is that just me.  im not sure exactly what.  could be an upgraded bullpen arm or just someone to get moyer out of there now.  howard cant be moved now because his value isnt where it needs to be to get a valuable return package.  id like him to be moved now but he isnt worth enough yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it obvious now that a move needs to be made? or is that just me.  im not sure exactly what.  could be an upgraded bullpen arm or just someone to get moyer out of there now.  howard cant be moved now because his value isnt where it needs to be to get a valuable return package.  id like him to be moved now but he isnt worth enough yet</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, wait I forgot to also assign blame to the only guy who let in any runs, Hamels. Him and the Breeze-machine...no mortal man strikes out 40% of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, wait I forgot to also assign blame to the only guy who let in any runs, Hamels. Him and the Breeze-machine&#8230;no mortal man strikes out 40% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets not forget to mention Ryan Howard&#039;s ugly at-bats tonight going 0 - 4 with 2 strikeouts dropping his average to .181 and upping his strikeout total to 32. i love getting nothing out of the cleanup spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets not forget to mention Ryan Howard&#8217;s ugly at-bats tonight going 0 &#8211; 4 with 2 strikeouts dropping his average to .181 and upping his strikeout total to 32. i love getting nothing out of the cleanup spot.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moyer is done.  my dad bet me he wouldnt make it to june.  in fact he said hell get one more start before its obvious hes done.  now that will probably be wrong because thats tomorrow and i think theyll give him a few more but it may not be far off.  my belief in the bet and my belief now is that hell be done in june and benson will take his place.  if benson isnt healthy then who knows who will take that spot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moyer is done.  my dad bet me he wouldnt make it to june.  in fact he said hell get one more start before its obvious hes done.  now that will probably be wrong because thats tomorrow and i think theyll give him a few more but it may not be far off.  my belief in the bet and my belief now is that hell be done in june and benson will take his place.  if benson isnt healthy then who knows who will take that spot.</p>
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