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23 Responses to “Gillick: No Extensions For Hamels, Howard Yet”

1. Gnomicide Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 10:43 am

   Stand Pat!

2. Geoff Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 10:50 am

   hahaha. he said hes baffled by that? do you want some one as your gm thats baffled by teams wanting to lock up elite players for long-term deals? whats wrong with him? get this guy outta here. good old stand pat.

   to PUBLICLY say that is disgraceful and insulting to the fans and the players. you resign this players long term like the rays and others did because youre TRYING TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. i promised i wouldnt go off about the players until the game starts tonight, but then gillick comes out with this. unacceptable gillick, unacceptable. you should sign them to extensions this year BECAUSE youre leaving so you can leave a positive legacy.

3. chris m Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 11:04 am

   wheres dom m defending this idiot…anyways how bout that mets clubhouse and wagner divideing it up…wagner really is going nuts

4. OZ Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

   typical Phillies brass - little brains, no polish, even less tact. and they wonder why Rolen and Schilling wanted out…

   Ryan, Cole - if u guys are reading this, we love ya! don’t listen to those idiots at the top.

   i’d love to take Montgomery on a deep-sea, boat-ride and give him a nice cinder block to play with…

5. Mike T. Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

   Haha yeah, I expect Don M and Bruce to come full force with their Gillick support.

   What’s the word on Cashman?

6. Mike T. Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:20 pm

   Tim, hilarious picture of Gillick by the way - haha.

7. Bruce Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

   It’s interesting to note that some of the young stars listed in Tim’s blog were signed by small market clubs such as Tampa Bay Rays, Florida Marlins, Colorado Rockies and Milwaukee Brewers.

   Those commitments by the small market clubs is a tribute to their foresight in recognizing a bright future that will reward both team AND fans.

8. Mike T. Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

   Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce.

9. chris m Says:
   May 16th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

   I’m not sure I want cashman…I think if I had all the money he does to put together a team, I’m pretty convince I could do a better job

10. Bruce Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    BTW, Mike T, I never supported GM Stand Pat’s tight fisted budget policy with the team. The Phillies are NOT a small market club contrary to what the owners’ views are on their team’s revenue sources.

11. Geoff Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    i dunno about cashman per se, but they need a GM that has a lot of respect around the league and a GM that can stand up to those owners who want to bring back jose mesa every year.

12. scot Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    to be fair, jose mesa is the phils single season save record holder.

13. Geoff Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Yeah but last year he couldnt geta t-ball team out.

14. Tim Malcolm Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    “It’s interesting to note that some of the young stars listed in Tim’s blog were signed by small market clubs such as Tampa Bay Rays, Florida Marlins, Colorado Rockies and Milwaukee Brewers.

    Those commitments by the small market clubs is a tribute to their foresight in recognizing a bright future that will reward both team AND fans.”

    Good point, one that I saw as well.

    What it also means, however, is the Phils are able to wait out a year or two to sign Howard and Hamels because they are a larger-market team. And if they decline to extend them they can go after big-name free agents instead. So the idea that Gillick would want to wait it out isn’t a bad idea from the Phils’ standpoint, but to say it? That’s another story.

15. chrism Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    how bout wagner….whata piece of shit

16. Lewisauce Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    I understand Gillick’s philosophy (why lock them up for fair-market value now when we can grossly overpay later?), but he really needs to shut his mouth about the long-term possibilities of current players. Hamels and Howard aren’t his problem, their contracts aren’t any of his friggin’ business, and he should stay out of it.

    I really, really dislike this GM. He’s made some good moves (the Utley contract, some of the smaller moves over the past two years, Lidge, etc.), but Eaton and “he doesn’t need a physical” Garcia alone should cement Gillick’s legacy as one of incompetence. Not to mention, as Tim said in his season preview (and this remains true), Gillick didn’t do enough to turn this club from an NL East champion to a World Series contender.

    I dunno about Cashman either. The idea of having a limited team salary would be new to him, and it’s unclear how he’d handle that.

17. Lewisauce Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    And yeah, the Ashburn Award should have that image of Ashburn. I’ve got an error icon.

18. Geoff Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Gillick is a relic. He doesnt understand the dynamics of young players today if he really believes some of that stuff. Young players want to be locked up and get long-term financial security. NOBODY WANTS TO GO YEAR TO YEAR! if im hamels, and i just pitched a complete game shutout, and my GM comes out and says that, then i BLOW UP to the media as soon as I get interviewed and trash gillicks statements. hes a lame duck GM anyway, they need somebody with a set of balls who isnt afraid to make a big move or sign a big deal for a young player.

19. Rosco Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    I’m going to have to pull my Travis Lee jersey out aren’t I?

20. Jacob Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    I don’t know why Gillick wouldn’t say this, but maybe in light of his imminent retirement from GM he’s trying not to hamstring whoever the next GM might be. There are moves that will need to be made this year (Burrell, pitching), so why lock up Howard and Hamels? In Howard’s case the money issue being cleared up for this year hasn’t helped his performance as it should. After a month and a half his stats are almost laughable for what he’s getting paid.

21. Steve Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    Keep Hamels by signing him to a long term deal after next season. That way he will have proven durability and would probably be amenable to a 5-6 year deal that pays like ~10-11 million a year on average.

    Let Howard go year to year and then, and then let him walk or trade him at the deadline in 2010 or 2011. He is like Mo Vaughn and his decline will probably be fast and furious (and I am a big Howard fan). Besides after 2011 they will need to look to rebuild anyway.

22. Pat the Bat Says:
    May 16th, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Hey don’t blame the club. They gotz me the long-term hookup!!!!!

23. Greg V. Says:
    May 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    10 years $10 million for Hamels! Sounds great to me!

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