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	<title>Comments on: Machine! Burrell&#8217;s Walk-Off Blast Beats Giants</title>
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		<title>By: Vernon Dozier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vernon Dozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were GM, I&#039;d have already begun negotiations with Lidge &amp; Burrell. However, the Phillies seem to have a policy of letting a player become a free agent and &quot;test the free agent waters.&quot; They could have had Wagner fairly cheap at the All-Star break of his walk year, and probably could have had Rowand back if they talked contract during the 2007 season. Once these guys hit free agency, they&#039;re usually gone. I don&#039;t expect Burrell or Lidge to be here in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were GM, I&#8217;d have already begun negotiations with Lidge &amp; Burrell. However, the Phillies seem to have a policy of letting a player become a free agent and &#8220;test the free agent waters.&#8221; They could have had Wagner fairly cheap at the All-Star break of his walk year, and probably could have had Rowand back if they talked contract during the 2007 season. Once these guys hit free agency, they&#8217;re usually gone. I don&#8217;t expect Burrell or Lidge to be here in 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realistically, I don&#039;t think he will get 20M next year, because he only has been doing this terror since the middle of last year.  He is somewhat of a liability in the3 outfield as he looks like he is towing a bus behind him when he runs and he is getting up there in years.  If he gets a contract similar to what he is making now for 3-4 more years he will jump all over that.  Can the Phils afford to sign him at what he is making now.  Maybe- Maybe-not.  We will have to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realistically, I don&#8217;t think he will get 20M next year, because he only has been doing this terror since the middle of last year.  He is somewhat of a liability in the3 outfield as he looks like he is towing a bus behind him when he runs and he is getting up there in years.  If he gets a contract similar to what he is making now for 3-4 more years he will jump all over that.  Can the Phils afford to sign him at what he is making now.  Maybe- Maybe-not.  We will have to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will &quot;the Bat&quot; keep this up all season?   Can&#039;t wait to see what happens when we get Rollins back and when Howard gets hot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will &#8220;the Bat&#8221; keep this up all season?   Can&#8217;t wait to see what happens when we get Rollins back and when Howard gets hot!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if it came down to it, Pat would give us a hometown discount. Even though he&#039;s gone through hell here, it seems like he genuinely enjoys playing here.

As for the contract demands, I think he&#039;d want about 5 years, probably 65-70 mill would get it done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if it came down to it, Pat would give us a hometown discount. Even though he&#8217;s gone through hell here, it seems like he genuinely enjoys playing here.</p>
<p>As for the contract demands, I think he&#8217;d want about 5 years, probably 65-70 mill would get it done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s say Pat keeps up this monster pace all year long. He is making 14M this year in a contract year. Would you sign here for less money just because you &quot;love&quot; playing here. Look at Rowand. He took his career year and turned it into 60M guaranteed. I highly doubt Pat will give the Phillies a &quot;hometown&quot; discount. Let&#039;s just enjoy him while we still got him. The Sox will pay him 20M a year to take over for Manny next summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s say Pat keeps up this monster pace all year long. He is making 14M this year in a contract year. Would you sign here for less money just because you &#8220;love&#8221; playing here. Look at Rowand. He took his career year and turned it into 60M guaranteed. I highly doubt Pat will give the Phillies a &#8220;hometown&#8221; discount. Let&#8217;s just enjoy him while we still got him. The Sox will pay him 20M a year to take over for Manny next summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to keep a running tally of the Gameday Awards, but I stopped last year for some reason.  I&#039;ll start it up again.  I think it&#039;s safe to say Chase Utley is winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to keep a running tally of the Gameday Awards, but I stopped last year for some reason.  I&#8217;ll start it up again.  I think it&#8217;s safe to say Chase Utley is winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just focus on this year. The Holy Diver! Unbelievable. I was watching on MLBTV on my roommates computer and was so excited, I ran out back stubbed my toe on a brick and then fell over a lawn chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just focus on this year. The Holy Diver! Unbelievable. I was watching on MLBTV on my roommates computer and was so excited, I ran out back stubbed my toe on a brick and then fell over a lawn chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Malcolm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian does the Ashburn/Jeltz awards. He&#039;s the one to ask about a tally â€” that&#039;s a good idea, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian does the Ashburn/Jeltz awards. He&#8217;s the one to ask about a tally â€” that&#8217;s a good idea, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewisauce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewisauce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, my opinion, the numbers would drop off -- to a degree. Even still, 3 years/$30 mil is not unreasonable. I don&#039;t see him ever going back to his Mendoza-line years. I see Burrell as -- as has been pointed out here before -- a guy who plays closer to his potential (and his potential is 40 hr/120 rbi/.300 BA) over the next three years. Let&#039;s say there&#039;s a drop off, and he puts up more like 30/100/.270. That&#039;s still pretty good production from left field, and $10 mil a year would seem to be to be on par with guys who can put up similar numbers. And let&#039;s not forget his intangibles. His teammates believe in him and consider him a real winner and team player. If we lose him, we have two choices: 1.) an outfield of Jenkins-Victorino-Werth, or 2.) bring in an unknown quantity (basically, another Jenkins-type).

Jenkins-Victorino-Werth doesn&#039;t really excite me. Vic is injury prone, and is never going to provide power from the outfield. Jenkins has been kind of a bust so far, and is certainly on the down-side of his career, and he certainly will NOT be worth keeping when his current contract is up. I believe in Werth, and I&#039;d like to see him play more and Jenkins play less.

If we bring in some other veteran, whoever it is is going to cost Jenkins-type money at least, and they won&#039;t be able to produce the way Burrell has since July. And frankly, it isn&#039;t just the numbers with Burrell. He&#039;s been getting a lot of clutch hits. That&#039;s why he leads the NL in RBIs. He&#039;s not collecting meaningless solo shots or two-out singles that leave him stranded in the second inning. He&#039;s doing the job with RISP and in high-voltage (i.e. last night) situations.

Do we want to trust Jenkins or someone like him with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, my opinion, the numbers would drop off &#8212; to a degree. Even still, 3 years/$30 mil is not unreasonable. I don&#8217;t see him ever going back to his Mendoza-line years. I see Burrell as &#8212; as has been pointed out here before &#8212; a guy who plays closer to his potential (and his potential is 40 hr/120 rbi/.300 BA) over the next three years. Let&#8217;s say there&#8217;s a drop off, and he puts up more like 30/100/.270. That&#8217;s still pretty good production from left field, and $10 mil a year would seem to be to be on par with guys who can put up similar numbers. And let&#8217;s not forget his intangibles. His teammates believe in him and consider him a real winner and team player. If we lose him, we have two choices: 1.) an outfield of Jenkins-Victorino-Werth, or 2.) bring in an unknown quantity (basically, another Jenkins-type).</p>
<p>Jenkins-Victorino-Werth doesn&#8217;t really excite me. Vic is injury prone, and is never going to provide power from the outfield. Jenkins has been kind of a bust so far, and is certainly on the down-side of his career, and he certainly will NOT be worth keeping when his current contract is up. I believe in Werth, and I&#8217;d like to see him play more and Jenkins play less.</p>
<p>If we bring in some other veteran, whoever it is is going to cost Jenkins-type money at least, and they won&#8217;t be able to produce the way Burrell has since July. And frankly, it isn&#8217;t just the numbers with Burrell. He&#8217;s been getting a lot of clutch hits. That&#8217;s why he leads the NL in RBIs. He&#8217;s not collecting meaningless solo shots or two-out singles that leave him stranded in the second inning. He&#8217;s doing the job with RISP and in high-voltage (i.e. last night) situations.</p>
<p>Do we want to trust Jenkins or someone like him with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players traditionally perform better in a walk year, but I think Pat has fixed some of the holes in his swing and is just playing better. I think its more coincidence than anything with him this time around.

When will Manuel split Howard and Utley up with Burrell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players traditionally perform better in a walk year, but I think Pat has fixed some of the holes in his swing and is just playing better. I think its more coincidence than anything with him this time around.</p>
<p>When will Manuel split Howard and Utley up with Burrell?</p>
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