Phillies Nation

80 Responses to “Gamenight: Phillies (37-26) At Braves (32-30)”

1. erik Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 7:32 pm

   first base umpire’s bad call on howard just cost us a run on pats double

2. Tim Malcolm Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pm

   Beauty-ful play by Rollins to close out the second.

   Kendrick’s walks might come back to hurt him. And he’s thrown a boat of pitches already. Don’t want to use too much bullpen tonight.

3. Tim Malcolm Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 7:50 pm

   erik: Dunno about that. Franceour has a laser in right — would’ve been a tough score. Then again, would’ve been no out and two on if they don’t send him.

4. NateB Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

   Rollins looks hot in the field, but why isn’t he working the counts this year? When he’s hot at the plate he works the counts.

5. chris m Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

   howard fucking blows.period end of story. nobody try to defend this idiot bc hes hurting our team hitting and defensively…plus thats a phatom interferance call that just cost us a run

6. NateB Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 8:22 pm

   I really think Howard has been introduced to new ways of thinking at the plate by the hitting coaches/teammates. Working the counts, avoiding the strikeout, etc. Whatever was his approach at the plate in 2006 should definitely come back… even if it was brainless hitting!!! Well, .313 with 58 homers this year??? Just crush the ball like you used to please.

7. NateB Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

   If it weren’t for the bad calls Ruiz’s homer would have made it 3-0 right now.

8. chris m Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

   anybody that defend this idiot id a bigger idiot bc howard sucks ass

9. chris m Says:
   June 7th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

   howard cost us atleast another 1

10. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:37 pm

    Howard’s DP ball made a three-run lead a two-run lead. Good shot by Burrell. Seems to be heating up again.

11. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    howard doesnt even deserve to be on th AA squad bc he would make them look bad…if manuel actually used his head and had pat in the 4 hole we would have had that run

12. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    LOL. a two run homer to chipper. who didn’t see that coming?

    TIM PLEASE WRITE RYAN ANOTHER OPEN LETTER.

    Please……

13. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    dont bother he shit…ill trade him for 11 bats at this piont

14. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Hey everyone, what time is it?

15. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    [everyone] KENDRICK TIME!!!

16. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    madson effective?!? never thouught id say that in a big situation

17. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Tough catch-22 there with Madson hitting. I can see why — he has a low pitch count and you don’t want to tax the rest of the bullpen again — but it’s tough not to use the bench. Still, against Reyes, you don’t have great options (Coste maybe, and Bruntlett).

18. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Even when hot girls are doing it, I hate the chop.

19. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:08 pm

    the chop isnt even their original thing…it originated at florida state

20. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Don’t know if I’d classify Eaton as a “journeyman” starter. Journeymen don’t make $8M per.

    And NOW Madson hitting doesn’t make sense if they’re pulling him with one out.

21. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    i thought the same thing after listening to these homer annoucers

22. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    charlie is a terrible in game manager

23. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    another reason he MVP

24. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    howard had no chance at that ..why did he continue running over there like he did and almost got kkilled

25. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    chris, we are in a good game with a good team who plays their best ball at home, and we a decent lead in the division and are playing the best baseball we have played all year long 10 wins out of our last 12 games, stop fucking complaining

26. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    shut the fuck up. u must be fat like howard and thats why ur defending him. y woulld u defend som1 thats been our worst player all year u moron

27. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    complacentcy or however u spell it…thats erics problem

28. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    chase is the man

29. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    MVP, baby. And he gets to third. Unreal.

    Also, Vic working the walk. He’s been on fire.

30. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    CHASE I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABY- PLEASE MAKE A MAN OUT OF ME.

    what a huge hit.

31. Brian G. Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    If Ryan can’t get this run in — I have officially given up on him.

32. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    allright dickhead, since you have the audacity to be calling people morons and idiots, maybe you should be checking out your grammar and spelling, because it is pathetic. by the way i am 6′0 and weight 185 and I am a network administrator. so that should answer your comments about me being fat and a moron. but by all means, continue your 3rd grade level typing if you must

33. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    dont say that eric will be mad if anybody complains

34. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Nice job, Ryan. And guys, calm down a bit. Let’s be civil. This is a baseball game.

35. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    good job howard, great clutch hit

36. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Yeah Ryan! I still hate you, but yeah baby!

37. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    thanks chris for calling me an idiot for defending howard… even tho i was critiquing him. ha ha intelligent. i think someone is drinking too much to understand intelligent baseball. we are winning this game. utley hits another RBI to show chipper who the real MVP is.

38. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    I swear to God if I hear “Hi, dis is Victor Martinez” one more time …

39. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Also, Skip Caray just said “let a runner steal a base unmolested.”

40. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    so im not gonna start this kind of crap in front of everyone…sorry i dont capitolize everything and spell check everything…didnt know i had to but its funny when u criticize my grammer in ur statment when ur gammer isnt good either. only two network administrators i have met is one becuase he didnt wanna put the extra effort into any other better degree and the other didnt need a degree

41. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    nate you misread my comment… i wasnt adressing anything at you

42. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    ok no worries. Let’s go Phils!

43. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    its straight i was just venting on howard but found out it wasnt allowed

44. Tim Malcolm Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Hey, vent all you want — I just don’t want personal attacks or anything. Let’s keep it on the team.

45. Julie Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Tim, I was thinking the same thing about Victor Martinez…hilarious. I think mlb.com only has 1-2 commercials max.

    Clutch hit by Howard, and it’s good to see Werth back in action. Come on, Flash!

46. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    i understand tim i was personally attacking howard( which i hope is fine) then some1 peronally attacked me so thats the only reason i fired back

47. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Tim what’s this about writing another letter to Howard? You have his email address or something?

48. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    chris, i dont understand all of the negativity when we are playing the best we played all year long. you have your right to say what you want and you are entitled to your opinion, however so am i. i was just trying to counter your point. be easy on calling me fat and a moron and there would be no problems. that kind of stuff pisses people off.

49. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Gordon- 3 strike outs! What a bullpen!

50. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    when you tell people ” to stop fucking complaining” that pisses people off as well. i just dont think we are playing our the best that were capable of playing. we won by a dropped fly ball last nite… howard hasnt been doing anything… offense hasnt really done much lately. its fine to criticize howard bc he hasnt done anything. no need to get your panties in a knot. its a blog this is where were supposed to vioce our frustation. and thats all i did until u attacked me

51. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pm

    umm my last message was more than civil, yours however includes my getting my panties in a knot.. as per tims request i am trying to not be an ass. however, like i said before we have won 10 of our last 12 games, which is by far the best this team has been playing all year. in that stretch, we went from 1.5 back to 3.5 ahead. that to me seems pretty good. i am sure most would agree. and yeah we did win on an e-4 last night, but a win is a win is a win, and i will take the w in the win column. and the offense has been lacking a little over the last week, however, our pitching staff has been lights out. and being this game is a mixture of both offense and defense, the TEAM doing very well and i am happy with them.

52. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    utley is a ball magnet.

53. Rob Cowie Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Lovin the 52 game day threads on a friday. Go phils!

54. Julie Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Hey guys, take it easy. You both have good points, so let’s just move on.

    Do we bring in Lidge tonight for a non-save opportunity given his shaky performance last night?

55. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    i am happy as well even though we played the reds and the rockies and a decent marlin team. but howard is a liability. put dobbs there and this is a better team offensivly and defensivly. ur mad that im complaining about howard when im sure most people are dissapionted in his preformance

56. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    would rather see someone else close to save him

57. Julie Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    Yeah that’s what I was thinking…I guess Charlie doesn’t agree.

58. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    gordon and lidge striking out both of their respective sides, great. clinch the first series in a tough 3 series road trip, great. continue to build our lead in the division, great. i love it.

59. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    im gonna be the bigger man and say sorry for the response i gave you to your comments. its tough to see how i meant the words over a computer. but nothings wrong with a little disagreement. however howard preformance has sucked this year. i know he had a rbi tonite but also a big double pay and an error

60. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    We were wondering this winter which Lidge we’d get this season. WE GOT “LIGHTS OUT LIDGE” FOR BOURNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 more stike outs… what a bullpen!

61. erik Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    i apoligize as well, like you said nothing is wrong with a little disagreement, in fact i take this blogging as a chance to debate the opinions of others. but honestly, the only thing that matters is that we won. great job phils, lets hope the reds can hold on and we can gain yet another of the fish..

62. chris m Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    well we cant build a lead until the marlins lose

63. Gavin Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    Chris, its impossible for every guy on the team to be hot at the same time. This team is on a roll…..quit fucking around with the vibe dude.

64. Gnomicide Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    We are not a good team right now.

65. danny Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    We just are not a good team at this point right now.

66. Mike T. Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    It’s funny that you mock me – but it’s true, we’re just not that good of a team right now. Move Howard, get me another lefty in the bullpen (Romero’s hurt), and try to make moves for a number 1 or 2 starter – that will make us a good team. These wins are good, but they’re not convincing. No decisions by the pitchers the last 2 nights, offense showing up late against mediocre pitching tonight, Howard looking absolutely horrible, Jimmy in a slump, Dobbs beginning to fade, and a steady platoon of average outfielders. We’ll see what Eaton does tomorrow, but I’m telling you we won’t be a good team unless will fill in our holes, like all championship teams do.

67. Mike T. Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    And that’s not me trying to start shit by the way, that’s the truth – ask Geoff.

68. NateB Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    It’s true. Now is the time to spend the money to fill in our holes. We have a chance this year, but need a few more tweaks to make this work in the playoffs.

69. Mike T. Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Also, about the new poll. If you’re insane enough to think our biggest need right now is “Ryan Howard circa 2006″, you have completely lost your mind. We need another starting pitcher, no questions asked. I knew there were a lot of idiots who visit this site, but not that many. Get your heads out of your asses – PITCHING WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. If you don’t believe me, see the ‘01 Diamondbacks, ‘02 Angels, ‘03 Marlins, ‘04 Red Sox, ‘05 White Sox, ‘06 Cardinals, and the ‘07 Red Sox. I don’t know about you, but I want a championship, not a division title. Morons.

70. Mike T. Says:
    June 7th, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    If you notice, the most intelligent people who comment on this site regularly, agree with the points I make. That says something about the people who consistently disagree with me. Get a grip on how the game of baseball is played, listen to sports talk radio, read some fucking articles, visit baseballreference.com, pay attention to the game.. whatever you need to do to stop sounding like an idiot —- or just stop commenting. I’m tired of you morons who don’t know anything about anything. Goodnight.

71. chris m Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:03 am

    gavin are u kidding me….im messing with the vibe? they read my stuff in the lockerroom? howard sucks get ur head out of ur ass gavin….thats alll i complained about tonite and im right

72. chris m Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:04 am

    mike t’s right theres a lot of room for improvement starting with howard and pitching…gavin dont jump on me if you dont know the situation

73. Jay Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:30 am

    I have a HUGE “man crush” on Chase right now!

74. Clare Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:31 am

    I have a huge non-man crush on Chase all the time!

75. TwoTonsOfIrony Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Mike-

    Just thought this would be interesting to point out.

    The ‘01 Mariners (League Record 116 game winners)
    -ERA 3.54
    -Runs/Game 5.2

    ‘08 Phillies
    -ERA 3.88
    -Runs/Game 5.8

    If my math is correct the Phillies actually have a better differential this year than the ‘01 Mariners. So how is it possible that they are not a good team when they are essentially playing better than the best team ever (by numbers/wins). I understand that you will come back with the fact that they did not win the world series, but my point is just to say that this team is very good, actually they are elite, so saying they are not a good team and that they are not winning convincingly, but they are, on average winning more ‘convincingly’ than the ‘01 Mariners.
    These numbers are from baseball-reference.com

    -interesting note, both Freddy Garcia and Jamie Moyer were on that ‘01 Mariners team.

76. Geoff Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 1:37 am

    the bullpen era is the best in mlb this year thats why the team era is low. that wont continue unless the starting pitching improves in personnel or performance. i guarantee that, even against the national league. they can pitch better and meet that requirement, but id rather be sure about it.

    nice win tonight again. some of you guys get all arrogant when theyre on a roll like this and start making fun of mike t or some others. id say take it easy guys. yes, enjoy these wins. they were god wins. however, the braves re-exposed some glaring deficiencies with the pitching staff. kendrick pitched well tonight and when the fifth starter gives you that then you get him out of the game like charlie did at that time. the problem with this team is still starting pitching. its still not enough for the playoffs. this bullpen is overworked and they should not have had to use lidge tonight. three of your give pitchers are really only safe to use for 6 innings. thats killing this bullpen. they need one of the 3,4,5 starters to go 7 regularly. they arent getting that and they need to bring someone int here who can do that. period. myers needs to start giving you seven or 8 every time out there. hes beeen much better lately and he needs to keep it up. romero is a little out of whack, id give him a rest but they dont have anyone who can should his part of the burden. they DEFINITELY need another left-handed bullpen arm to take the burden off of romero and allow him to regain his form. someone that you can send out there in a key situation and not cringe on every pitch.

    this team is fully capable of winning a championship and i expect them to. in order to do that, they need better pitching. the american league is more hyped on tv because they have the offense AND the pitching that has dominated the national league for far too long now, generally speaking. guys, jamie moyer is not going to hold the red sox or some team like that IN THE WORLD SERIES to one or two or anything less than 5 runs if hes lucky. adam eaton wont even be allowed to start in the playoffs even if hes in form i trust kendrick more than him. cc sabathia, chien ming wang, and john lackey all got shelled last year in the playoffs at various points in time. even those guys get smoked in the playoffs sometimes. you dare think the phillies rotation can shut down some of these offenses in a world series matchup?

    give me another guy thats as good as myers is supposed to be. then you have a pretty good rotation to bring to the table.

    starting pitching needs to be effective consistently so that your bullpen can be more rested and effective when youc all upon it. the philies had the same problem last year and they didnt fix it in the offseason.

    the offense this year is just as good and probably better than it was at the end of last year. the bullpen is better than it was last year. the starting pitching is probably a little better than last year but its not good enough from top to bottom to get it done. all we are asking for is one more guy. you can even rent him for all i care, ill let up on that requirement. just get me a guy that can win game 2’s to setup myers for game 3and i will feel a lot better. there will be some available at the deadline if the general manager cares enough to go and get one.

    anyway. they played well lately despite all of that and now we shall see how eaton fares against chipper jones and mark texiera and co. if he holds this lineup to 3 or less runs then i will rest easier tomorrow.

77. Geoff Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 1:52 am

    and trade ryan howard for someone that makes contact with the baseball. anybody can play first base. hes there for his hitting which he isnt doing enough of.

    how dare other teams walk chase utley to get to the cleanup hitter. thats so arrogant and they got away with it because howard swings at anything that looks liek a breaking ball low and away

78. Paul Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 3:15 am

    “It’s funny that you mock me – but it’s true, we’re just not that good of a team right now…”

    Exactly Mike T, the Phillies have the 2nd best record in the NL, and 5th best in all of baseball. Not good at all. I can’t imagine what you would say if they are were playing .500 ball…

79. Geoff Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    where i disagree with mike t is making the distinction between not good enough to win a championship and not good. not good is the new york mets. bad is the washington nationals. the phillies are a good team. im not sure whether they are a great team. great teams win the world series. to be great they need to be good enough to win the world series. right now most of their team is good enough except there is a hole in their starting rotation. you need one more solid and consistent starter at the front of the rotation. i dont trust jamie moyer and adam eaton to provide that stability between them in the postseason, particularly if this team gets to the world series.

    great – last year’s red sox or any other world series champion
    good – phillies
    average – braves, marlins
    not goods – mets
    bad – nationals

    thats my scale in a divisional setting. they can probably get to the world series as they are because of the lack of good teams in the national league. but they need more pitching stability in the rotation and in the bullpen to win the world series. maybe another bat that doesnt strike out as much as ryan howard would also help this team.

80. Paul Says:
    June 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Good point Geoff. The Phils are definitely a good team, time will tell if they are great. Sweeping the Braves at ATL would help! Go Phils!

Leave a Reply